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[rebel-builders] Rebel paint

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Bob Patterson

[rebel-builders] Rebel paint

Post by Bob Patterson » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:22 pm

Hi Craig !

ALL of MY Rebels, except the first one, have ended up Yellow,
with a Red stripe & trim ! There are pics in the archives.

Our FIRST Rebel was the Factory demo, painted Red, Yellow, Orange,
and White .... that may be the one she is thinking of. I really wouldn't
recommend that paint job - it's VERY difficult to do, and, if you see
the whole side of the airplane, the stripes from the front aren't centered
into the opening on the back .... just looks awkward ! It has so
much paint in it, you'll end up with an extra 20 or 30 lb !!!!

The current owner of that first Rebel has repainted it to White,
with a Red stripe. Personally, I vowed I'd NEVER own another WHITE
airplane again (had 2 - can't get the frost off until July !).....
...Figure old Bill Piper was pretty smart going with Yellow for Cubs -
it has enough colour to melt the frost, but not so much that it
really gets hot in summer -- and it's very visible !

--
......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
http://www.prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com

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On Wednesday 30 January 2008 03:15, Craig Walls wrote:
Thanks Ken. I went out today, got all the pieces, parts and accessories
out and was comparing the two riveters I have. The other one is a Jet.
I've been oiling my CP through the air inlet. Today, with a little
examination I found the oil fill on top. Since I have no literature I'm
not sure whether that's for normal oiling or what. My tip was a little
too large for the rivets and I took a smaller one and drilled it out to
the 1/8" size. There are two of the hollow cylinders where the jaws go
and I found that they are sized for certain rivets. I installed the one
for smaller rivets. It seemed to work well and I pulled 5 with smooth
results.

Changing gears somewhat, tomorrow I'll but some flat skin pcs to use in my
fin remake. I work for the fire dept and our city shop has a brake and
one of the mechanics there told me he could make a slight crease that was
repeatable. I hope he's right.

Ken, your rebel looks great. I like the yellow. My wife saw one of Bob
P's old paint schemes and is pulling for that instead. I tried to tell
her that it wasn't an alaska paint scheme...more like the Bahamas. Come
to think of it, maybe that's why she likes it!


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 3:06 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Riveting Question

Craig

The guys are referring to oil in the internal closed hydraulic cylinder.
The air piston is mechanically linked to a hydraulic piston that then
pulls the mandrel. You only have access to that oil if you disassemble
the puller and you seldom if ever will need to adjust it. It has no
relation to the oil you put in the air intake to lubricate the air piston.

Lower air pressure seems to give better results. I use a cheap inline
regulator to drop the pressure to about 40 psi or just enough to pull
the rivet and break the mandrel.

Chances are good that you can ignore all of this and just use the
smallest nosepiece that the mandrel will fit in easilly.

Ken

Craig Walls wrote:
Thanks to everyone who offered rivet solutions. I have some things to
check. I don't have any paperwork on the CP riveter. My compressor
cycles
@ 125-90 psi which I'd think would be good. I'll check for some stats
online. If anything I might have too much oil in the gun. I'm pretty
anal
about oiling all the tools. Onward. CW


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Craig Walls

[rebel-builders] Rebel paint

Post by Craig Walls » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:22 pm

Yep, that demo's the one. I guess I'll have to break it to her that her
paint scheme is too heavy! There's a solid red rebel tail dragger on
airliners.net (CROG) that I really like. Plain and simple.

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Patterson
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:39 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel paint


Hi Craig !

ALL of MY Rebels, except the first one, have ended up Yellow,
with a Red stripe & trim ! There are pics in the archives.

Our FIRST Rebel was the Factory demo, painted Red, Yellow, Orange,
and White .... that may be the one she is thinking of. I really wouldn't
recommend that paint job - it's VERY difficult to do, and, if you see
the whole side of the airplane, the stripes from the front aren't centered
into the opening on the back .... just looks awkward ! It has so
much paint in it, you'll end up with an extra 20 or 30 lb !!!!

The current owner of that first Rebel has repainted it to White,
with a Red stripe. Personally, I vowed I'd NEVER own another WHITE
airplane again (had 2 - can't get the frost off until July !).....
...Figure old Bill Piper was pretty smart going with Yellow for Cubs -
it has enough colour to melt the frost, but not so much that it
really gets hot in summer -- and it's very visible !

--
......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
http://www.prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Wednesday 30 January 2008 03:15, Craig Walls wrote:
Thanks Ken. I went out today, got all the pieces, parts and accessories
out and was comparing the two riveters I have. The other one is a Jet.
I've been oiling my CP through the air inlet. Today, with a little
examination I found the oil fill on top. Since I have no literature I'm
not sure whether that's for normal oiling or what. My tip was a little
too large for the rivets and I took a smaller one and drilled it out to
the 1/8" size. There are two of the hollow cylinders where the jaws go
and I found that they are sized for certain rivets. I installed the one
for smaller rivets. It seemed to work well and I pulled 5 with smooth
results.

Changing gears somewhat, tomorrow I'll but some flat skin pcs to use in my
fin remake. I work for the fire dept and our city shop has a brake and
one of the mechanics there told me he could make a slight crease that was
repeatable. I hope he's right.

Ken, your rebel looks great. I like the yellow. My wife saw one of Bob
P's old paint schemes and is pulling for that instead. I tried to tell
her that it wasn't an alaska paint scheme...more like the Bahamas. Come
to think of it, maybe that's why she likes it!


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 3:06 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Riveting Question

Craig

The guys are referring to oil in the internal closed hydraulic cylinder.
The air piston is mechanically linked to a hydraulic piston that then
pulls the mandrel. You only have access to that oil if you disassemble
the puller and you seldom if ever will need to adjust it. It has no
relation to the oil you put in the air intake to lubricate the air piston.

Lower air pressure seems to give better results. I use a cheap inline
regulator to drop the pressure to about 40 psi or just enough to pull
the rivet and break the mandrel.

Chances are good that you can ignore all of this and just use the
smallest nosepiece that the mandrel will fit in easilly.

Ken

Craig Walls wrote:
Thanks to everyone who offered rivet solutions. I have some things to
check. I don't have any paperwork on the CP riveter. My compressor
cycles
@ 125-90 psi which I'd think would be good. I'll check for some stats
online. If anything I might have too much oil in the gun. I'm pretty
anal
about oiling all the tools. Onward. CW


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