Garry, I don't pause with mine, but not to say that a pause wouldn't help.
Out of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which just means
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my seals are not as tight anymore. I don't think the mounting height has
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Walter
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Subject: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Being a classic type A, I seem to want to pump quickly on the amphibs to
cycle them but find I need to pause at the top of the stroke to allow a
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phenom or does it sound like I have an restriction? Might it be because
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Garry Wright
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Thanks Walter. With about 2 feet of air in the line(not pressurized
side) it takes about 21 full slow strokes to cycle the gear right now. I
suspect at least some strokes are taken up compressing the air. Will see
when I have experimented with tilting the nose up for a while to get the
air to migrate forward. That should be easy enough for me - except the
waiting part.....
Garry
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side) it takes about 21 full slow strokes to cycle the gear right now. I
suspect at least some strokes are taken up compressing the air. Will see
when I have experimented with tilting the nose up for a while to get the
air to migrate forward. That should be easy enough for me - except the
waiting part.....
Garry
Walter Klatt wrote:
Garry, I don't pause with mine, but not to say that a pause wouldn't help.
Out of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which just means
it takes more. I usually take about 20 to 25 these days. Could also be that
my seals are not as tight anymore. I don't think the mounting height has
much to do with it.
Walter
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Sent: December 16, 2007 6:31 AM
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Subject: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Being a classic type A, I seem to want to pump quickly on the amphibs to
cycle them but find I need to pause at the top of the stroke to allow a
1/2 second or so for the pump to fill itself. Does anyone else have this
phenom or does it sound like I have an restriction? Might it be because
the reservoir is mounted too low (test situation - not in plane)?
Garry
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I'm not even gonna touch that one Bud ! HAHAHAHA
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Out of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which just means
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Walter
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Out of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which just means
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my seals are not as tight anymore. I don't think the mounting height has
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Walter
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Walter Klatt
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You got me, Wayne, LOL... But of course only you would catch that...
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Sent: December 16, 2007 8:37 AM
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Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
I'm not even gonna touch that one Bud ! HAHAHAHA
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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:38 AM
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Out of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which just means
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Walter
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I'm not even gonna touch that one Bud ! HAHAHAHA
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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:38 AM
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Out of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which just means
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Walter
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Wayne G. O'Shea
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Got my 23 yr old daughter, her boyfriend and my wife here. Told them "if you
didn't know what this paragraph was about" and then read it too them and had
tears in their eyes laughing !
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didn't know what this paragraph was about" and then read it too them and had
tears in their eyes laughing !
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:43 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
You got me, Wayne, LOL... But of course only you would catch that...
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Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: December 16, 2007 8:37 AM
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I'm not even gonna touch that one Bud ! HAHAHAHA
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:38 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Out of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which just
means
it takes more. I usually take about 20 to 25 these days. Could also be
that
my seals are not as tight anymore. I don't think the mounting height has
much to do with it.
Walter
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Walter Klatt
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Yeah, thanks, and now that you've pointed it out to the world, I am sure
there is lots more of ROFL going on. Will have to getcha for this one,
Wayne..., someday, somewhere...
-----Original Message-----
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G. O'Shea
Sent: December 16, 2007 8:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Got my 23 yr old daughter, her boyfriend and my wife here. Told them "if you
didn't know what this paragraph was about" and then read it too them and had
tears in their eyes laughing !
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there is lots more of ROFL going on. Will have to getcha for this one,
Wayne..., someday, somewhere...
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G. O'Shea
Sent: December 16, 2007 8:48 AM
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Got my 23 yr old daughter, her boyfriend and my wife here. Told them "if you
didn't know what this paragraph was about" and then read it too them and had
tears in their eyes laughing !
----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:43 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
You got me, Wayne, LOL... But of course only you would catch that...
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Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: December 16, 2007 8:37 AM
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I'm not even gonna touch that one Bud ! HAHAHAHA
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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:38 AM
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Out of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which just
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it takes more. I usually take about 20 to 25 these days. Could also be
that
my seals are not as tight anymore. I don't think the mounting height has
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Walter
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Wayne G. O'Shea
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;O)
Bring it on... maybe meet me in Temagami ! LOL
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Bring it on... maybe meet me in Temagami ! LOL
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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 12:00 PM
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Yeah, thanks, and now that you've pointed it out to the world, I am sure
there is lots more of ROFL going on. Will have to getcha for this one,
Wayne..., someday, somewhere...
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: December 16, 2007 8:48 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Got my 23 yr old daughter, her boyfriend and my wife here. Told them "if
you
didn't know what this paragraph was about" and then read it too them and
had
tears in their eyes laughing !
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:43 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
You got me, Wayne, LOL... But of course only you would catch that...
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G. O'Shea
Sent: December 16, 2007 8:37 AM
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I'm not even gonna touch that one Bud ! HAHAHAHA
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Out of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which just
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it takes more. I usually take about 20 to 25 these days. Could also be
that
my seals are not as tight anymore. I don't think the mounting height has
much to do with it.
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Garry Wright
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It certainly sounds suspicious. : )
Thanks for the responses.
Garry
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Thanks for the responses.
Garry
Wayne G. O'Shea wrote:
Got my 23 yr old daughter, her boyfriend and my wife here. Told them "if you
didn't know what this paragraph was about" and then read it too them and had
tears in their eyes laughing !
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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:43 AM
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You got me, Wayne, LOL... But of course only you would catch that...
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Sent: December 16, 2007 8:37 AM
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I'm not even gonna touch that one Bud ! HAHAHAHA
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:38 AM
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Out of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which just
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it takes more. I usually take about 20 to 25 these days. Could also be
that
my seals are not as tight anymore. I don't think the mounting height has
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Drew Dalgleish
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Hi Garry I like to use long full strokes with a pause at the top to let
the pressure eaqualize ;)
Drew
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the pressure eaqualize ;)
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Bob Fisher
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hi gary 15-17 strokes pause at the top to allow the pump to fill up-
little slower when cold, ATF is thicker--100 psi lock up bleed down in
1-2 hrs not leaks just internal bypass at o rings
bob fisher rebel 342 amphib 500+hrs
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little slower when cold, ATF is thicker--100 psi lock up bleed down in
1-2 hrs not leaks just internal bypass at o rings
bob fisher rebel 342 amphib 500+hrs
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Being a classic type A, I seem to want to pump quickly on the amphibs to
cycle them but find I need to pause at the top of the stroke to allow a
1/2 second or so for the pump to fill itself. Does anyone else have this
phenom or does it sound like I have an restriction? Might it be because
the reservoir is mounted too low (test situation - not in plane)?
Garry
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Cecil Shaw
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IT TAKES ABOUT 16 PUMPS ON MINE.
YOUR FILLING A 1 1/2" PUMP CHAMBER THROUGH A 1/4" HOLE WITH A CHECK BALL IN
IT.
THE LITTLE PAUSE HELPS IT TO MOVE THE GEAR WITH LESS STROKES.
THE OTHER WAY IS AN ELECTRIC PUMP WITH THE HAND PUMP AS BACKUP.
WEIGHS ABOUT 5LBS AND TAKES 25 SECONDS TO DEPLOY APROX.
JUST NEED THE EXTRA CHECK VALVE.
THINK I PAID ABOUT 285 FOR THE PUMP.
cEC
014R
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YOUR FILLING A 1 1/2" PUMP CHAMBER THROUGH A 1/4" HOLE WITH A CHECK BALL IN
IT.
THE LITTLE PAUSE HELPS IT TO MOVE THE GEAR WITH LESS STROKES.
THE OTHER WAY IS AN ELECTRIC PUMP WITH THE HAND PUMP AS BACKUP.
WEIGHS ABOUT 5LBS AND TAKES 25 SECONDS TO DEPLOY APROX.
JUST NEED THE EXTRA CHECK VALVE.
THINK I PAID ABOUT 285 FOR THE PUMP.
cEC
014R
From: Walter Klatt <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
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Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:38:40 -0800
Garry, I don't pause with mine, but not to say that a pause wouldn't help.
Out of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which just means
it takes more. I usually take about 20 to 25 these days. Could also be that
my seals are not as tight anymore. I don't think the mounting height has
much to do with it.
Walter
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Sent: December 16, 2007 6:31 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Being a classic type A, I seem to want to pump quickly on the amphibs to
cycle them but find I need to pause at the top of the stroke to allow a
1/2 second or so for the pump to fill itself. Does anyone else have this
phenom or does it sound like I have an restriction? Might it be because
the reservoir is mounted too low (test situation - not in plane)?
Garry
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Garry Wright
[rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Hi Cec,
How do you manage the electric pump? Do you have overpressure cutoffs?
Do you simply use it with a spring loaded switch and pump up to about
100 psi??
Garry
Cecil Shaw wrote:
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How do you manage the electric pump? Do you have overpressure cutoffs?
Do you simply use it with a spring loaded switch and pump up to about
100 psi??
Garry
Cecil Shaw wrote:
IT TAKES ABOUT 16 PUMPS ON MINE.
YOUR FILLING A 1 1/2" PUMP CHAMBER THROUGH A 1/4" HOLE WITH A CHECK BALL IN
IT.
THE LITTLE PAUSE HELPS IT TO MOVE THE GEAR WITH LESS STROKES.
THE OTHER WAY IS AN ELECTRIC PUMP WITH THE HAND PUMP AS BACKUP.
WEIGHS ABOUT 5LBS AND TAKES 25 SECONDS TO DEPLOY APROX.
JUST NEED THE EXTRA CHECK VALVE.
THINK I PAID ABOUT 285 FOR THE PUMP.
cEC
014R
From: Walter Klatt <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
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To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:38:40 -0800
Garry, I don't pause with mine, but not to say that a pause wouldn't help.
Out of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which just means
it takes more. I usually take about 20 to 25 these days. Could also be that
my seals are not as tight anymore. I don't think the mounting height has
much to do with it.
Walter
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Wright
Sent: December 16, 2007 6:31 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Being a classic type A, I seem to want to pump quickly on the amphibs to
cycle them but find I need to pause at the top of the stroke to allow a
1/2 second or so for the pump to fill itself. Does anyone else have this
phenom or does it sound like I have an restriction? Might it be because
the reservoir is mounted too low (test situation - not in plane)?
Garry
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Cecil Shaw
[rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
the pressure goes up to about 300psi and pump stops.
must add.
Im not using the factory lines.
using the csa aproved air lines for transport trucks.
2 years now, and 5-8 years for Carman Titus.
very resonable and redaly availably any where.
I can get 250 - 300 out of the hand pump if I lean on it.
Cecil
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must add.
Im not using the factory lines.
using the csa aproved air lines for transport trucks.
2 years now, and 5-8 years for Carman Titus.
very resonable and redaly availably any where.
I can get 250 - 300 out of the hand pump if I lean on it.
Cecil
014R
From: Garry Wright <wrightdg@davincibb.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:10:09 -0700
Hi Cec,
How do you manage the electric pump? Do you have overpressure cutoffs?
Do you simply use it with a spring loaded switch and pump up to about
100 psi??
Garry
Cecil Shaw wrote:INIT TAKES ABOUT 16 PUMPS ON MINE.
YOUR FILLING A 1 1/2" PUMP CHAMBER THROUGH A 1/4" HOLE WITH A CHECK BALLhelp.IT.
THE LITTLE PAUSE HELPS IT TO MOVE THE GEAR WITH LESS STROKES.
THE OTHER WAY IS AN ELECTRIC PUMP WITH THE HAND PUMP AS BACKUP.
WEIGHS ABOUT 5LBS AND TAKES 25 SECONDS TO DEPLOY APROX.
JUST NEED THE EXTRA CHECK VALVE.
THINK I PAID ABOUT 285 FOR THE PUMP.
cEC
014R
From: Walter Klatt <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:38:40 -0800
Garry, I don't pause with mine, but not to say that a pause wouldn'tmeansOut of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which justthatit takes more. I usually take about 20 to 25 these days. Could also behasmy seals are not as tight anymore. I don't think the mounting heightGarrymuch to do with it.
Walter
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Sent: December 16, 2007 6:31 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Being a classic type A, I seem to want to pump quickly on the amphibsthiscycle them but find I need to pause at the top of the stroke to allow a
1/2 second or so for the pump to fill itself. Does anyone else havephenom or does it sound like I have an restriction? Might it be because
the reservoir is mounted too low (test situation - not in plane)?
Garry
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Drew Dalgleish
[rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Hello Cecil I believe that I'm using the same lines on my floats and
they're only aproved to 200 or 250 psi. If possible you might consider
lowering the shut off pressure on your punp. The pressure reqired to keep
the gear locked is very low. Also if you lower the electric pump pressure
you can test the system at more than the normal working pressure using the
hand pump. this ensures that if a line is going to blow it will most likely
happen during testing on the ground instead of in the air.
At 01:20 AM 12/22/2007 +0000, you wrote:
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they're only aproved to 200 or 250 psi. If possible you might consider
lowering the shut off pressure on your punp. The pressure reqired to keep
the gear locked is very low. Also if you lower the electric pump pressure
you can test the system at more than the normal working pressure using the
hand pump. this ensures that if a line is going to blow it will most likely
happen during testing on the ground instead of in the air.
At 01:20 AM 12/22/2007 +0000, you wrote:
Drewthe pressure goes up to about 300psi and pump stops.
must add.
Im not using the factory lines.
using the csa aproved air lines for transport trucks.
2 years now, and 5-8 years for Carman Titus.
very resonable and redaly availably any where.
I can get 250 - 300 out of the hand pump if I lean on it.
Cecil
014R
From: Garry Wright <wrightdg@davincibb.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:10:09 -0700
Hi Cec,
How do you manage the electric pump? Do you have overpressure cutoffs?
Do you simply use it with a spring loaded switch and pump up to about
100 psi??
Garry
Cecil Shaw wrote:INIT TAKES ABOUT 16 PUMPS ON MINE.
YOUR FILLING A 1 1/2" PUMP CHAMBER THROUGH A 1/4" HOLE WITH A CHECK BALLhelp.IT.
THE LITTLE PAUSE HELPS IT TO MOVE THE GEAR WITH LESS STROKES.
THE OTHER WAY IS AN ELECTRIC PUMP WITH THE HAND PUMP AS BACKUP.
WEIGHS ABOUT 5LBS AND TAKES 25 SECONDS TO DEPLOY APROX.
JUST NEED THE EXTRA CHECK VALVE.
THINK I PAID ABOUT 285 FOR THE PUMP.
cEC
014R
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Wayne G. O'Shea
[rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Also note that Parker Parflex is rated at 425psi. so I don't know why
everyone changes from it.
There isn't anything in the MAM floats that require more than 50 to 75psi to
move and 100 to 125 psi is more than sufficient to keep the nose wheels from
collapsing if you push the airplane backwards.
The manual pump quickly lets you know you've blow a line...U can then
reverse the selector and then pump the gear back into the position you
started from....with the remaining fluid. Electric pump blowing a line mid
cycle... well you're stuck landing in what ever configuration it's left you
in because all your fluid is gone.
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everyone changes from it.
There isn't anything in the MAM floats that require more than 50 to 75psi to
move and 100 to 125 psi is more than sufficient to keep the nose wheels from
collapsing if you push the airplane backwards.
The manual pump quickly lets you know you've blow a line...U can then
reverse the selector and then pump the gear back into the position you
started from....with the remaining fluid. Electric pump blowing a line mid
cycle... well you're stuck landing in what ever configuration it's left you
in because all your fluid is gone.
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From: "Drew Dalgleish" <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Hello Cecil I believe that I'm using the same lines on my floats and
they're only aproved to 200 or 250 psi. If possible you might consider
lowering the shut off pressure on your punp. The pressure reqired to keep
the gear locked is very low. Also if you lower the electric pump pressure
you can test the system at more than the normal working pressure using the
hand pump. this ensures that if a line is going to blow it will most
likely
happen during testing on the ground instead of in the air.
At 01:20 AM 12/22/2007 +0000, you wrote:Drewthe pressure goes up to about 300psi and pump stops.
must add.
Im not using the factory lines.
using the csa aproved air lines for transport trucks.
2 years now, and 5-8 years for Carman Titus.
very resonable and redaly availably any where.
I can get 250 - 300 out of the hand pump if I lean on it.
Cecil
014R
From: Garry Wright <wrightdg@davincibb.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:10:09 -0700
Hi Cec,
How do you manage the electric pump? Do you have overpressure cutoffs?
Do you simply use it with a spring loaded switch and pump up to about
100 psi??
Garry
Cecil Shaw wrote: IN help. means that has Garry to this
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