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Robert Johnson

[rebel-builders] Radio noise

Post by Robert Johnson » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:12 pm

Hi Mike: Seeing that it is from the Engine electrical system, perhaps the
MSD ignition source would have a recommendation, or an Auto radio shop. I am
sure noise suppression should be right up their ally. Bob J
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Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:37 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Radio noise

I've got radio noise. Changes in pitch with RPM. Much worse on the NAV
side than the COMM side. My transmissions are loud and clear. Not the
alternator. I took the belt off the alternator and it's still there. Not
speaker jack wiring. I eliminated that. It's radiated noise coming in
through the antenna, not line noise. Gotta be something to do with my
Chevy
installation with MSD ignition. Anyone with an automotive engine
installation and similar ignition have noise and a solution? Anyone have
contact info for other auto installations that I can talk to?

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Mike Kimball

[rebel-builders] Radio noise

Post by Mike Kimball » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:12 pm

Thanks Bob. That's a good idea. I will probably try to talk to MSD and
some local radio shops.

Mike

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Hi Mike: Seeing that it is from the Engine electrical system, perhaps the
MSD ignition source would have a recommendation, or an Auto radio shop. I am

sure noise suppression should be right up their ally. Bob J
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Subject: [rebel-builders] Radio noise

I've got radio noise. Changes in pitch with RPM. Much worse on the NAV
side than the COMM side. My transmissions are loud and clear. Not the
alternator. I took the belt off the alternator and it's still there. Not
speaker jack wiring. I eliminated that. It's radiated noise coming in
through the antenna, not line noise. Gotta be something to do with my
Chevy
installation with MSD ignition. Anyone with an automotive engine
installation and similar ignition have noise and a solution? Anyone have
contact info for other auto installations that I can talk to?

Mike




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Del Schmucker

[rebel-builders] Radio noise

Post by Del Schmucker » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:12 pm

Mike:

Had the same problem with my Subaru. I picked up a noise filter from
Canadian Tire. They are used on the power leads and filter noise. Any
store that sells car stereos systems will have them. They will eliminate
problem.

Thank You,

Del Schmucker
Information Systems Manager
Keewatin-Patricia District School Board
807-223-1254
807-221-8769 Cell
del.schmucker@kpdsb.on.ca
www.kpdsb.on.ca

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I've got radio noise. Changes in pitch with RPM. Much worse on the NAV
side than the COMM side. My transmissions are loud and clear. Not the
alternator. I took the belt off the alternator and it's still there. Not
speaker jack wiring. I eliminated that. It's radiated noise coming in
through the antenna, not line noise. Gotta be something to do with my Chevy
installation with MSD ignition. Anyone with an automotive engine
installation and similar ignition have noise and a solution? Anyone have
contact info for other auto installations that I can talk to?

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Dale Fultz

[rebel-builders] Radio noise

Post by Dale Fultz » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:12 pm

Mike go to yahoo search type in "noise in radio with msd ignition" I did
this to see if I could find anything to help you and you will find your
answer there.. MSD has radio filters,, 29,900 responses to the question you
will ask.. But that looks to be the place for information. Some good some
not.. Dale N269DF
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jean.poirier

[rebel-builders] Radio Noise

Post by jean.poirier » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

May be your are so happy with your airplane that it is only your lips making BRRRRR!
Seriously, there are not some airplanes with some sort of "wire" or "tube" that let "go" the static... trought the air.. (excuse my english...)
may be only for fast airplane...

Jean
Rebel 747R

On Mon Sep 24 17:57 , Mike Kimball <mkimball@gci.net> sent:
I've finally gotten to the point where I can fly my plane regularly now. I
have an issue with the oil system for my gearbox. I made the mistake of
supplying oil to the gearbox from a pressurized source from the engine. At
60-70 psi I am giving the gearbox too much volume, even through a 1/16
restriction. I lose a quart of oil in 30 minutes in flight out the gearbox
vent. I temporarily rigged a catch can for this so I could keep flying. I
should have taken oil from an unpressurized source (i.e., the oil pan). I
am going to switch to a dry sump for the gearbox this winter.

Despite that, my biggest problem continues to be radio noise. Can I enlist
the help of you other auto conversion folks? Can you tell me about your
ignition and radio setup? What kind of spark plug wires are used? Are they
shielded? I assume your ignition is electronic HEI of some sort. Mine has
an electronic ignition module that sends a low voltage pulse to a standard
automotive coil which then sends the high voltage pulse through the
distributor to the spark plug. (Stock MSD stuff.) My radio is grounded at
a grounding block that is attached to the firewall and the engine via a
large diameter grounding cable. My alternator is not the problem. I have
run the engine with the alternator belts detached and still have the radio
noise. I have filters on the radio power cables and the ignition module
power. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

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LeRoy Taylor

[rebel-builders] Radio Noise

Post by LeRoy Taylor » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

I have a Ross drive with very very little leakage. It is restricted on the
inlet side like yours . Could your outlet side be plugged to where it
forces the oil through the seals. ,or could your seals be bad. Leroy
----- Original Message -----
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To: "Rebel Builder's List" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 4:57 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Radio Noise

I've finally gotten to the point where I can fly my plane regularly now.
I
have an issue with the oil system for my gearbox. I made the mistake of
supplying oil to the gearbox from a pressurized source from the engine.
At
60-70 psi I am giving the gearbox too much volume, even through a 1/16
restriction. I lose a quart of oil in 30 minutes in flight out the
gearbox
vent. I temporarily rigged a catch can for this so I could keep flying.
I
should have taken oil from an unpressurized source (i.e., the oil pan). I
am going to switch to a dry sump for the gearbox this winter.

Despite that, my biggest problem continues to be radio noise. Can I
enlist
the help of you other auto conversion folks? Can you tell me about your
ignition and radio setup? What kind of spark plug wires are used? Are
they
shielded? I assume your ignition is electronic HEI of some sort. Mine
has
an electronic ignition module that sends a low voltage pulse to a standard
automotive coil which then sends the high voltage pulse through the
distributor to the spark plug. (Stock MSD stuff.) My radio is grounded
at
a grounding block that is attached to the firewall and the engine via a
large diameter grounding cable. My alternator is not the problem. I have
run the engine with the alternator belts detached and still have the radio
noise. I have filters on the radio power cables and the ignition module
power. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Mike





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mdb1225

[rebel-builders] Radio Noise

Post by mdb1225 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

I am looking at a used Rebel with a Subaru engine and a Ross drive. The owner described a problem with "sympathetic vibrations", when the engine is running below 1600 RPM causing backlash problems in the Ross drive. Have you encountered similar problem?

Thanks,
Mike

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "LeRoy Taylor" <leroytaylor@charter.net>
I have a Ross drive with very very little leakage. It is restricted on the
inlet side like yours . Could your outlet side be plugged to where it
forces the oil through the seals. ,or could your seals be bad. Leroy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Kimball"
To: "Rebel Builder's List"
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 4:57 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Radio Noise

I've finally gotten to the point where I can fly my plane regularly now.
I
have an issue with the oil system for my gearbox. I made the mistake of
supplying oil to the gearbox from a pressurized source from the engine.
At
60-70 psi I am giving the gearbox too much volume, even through a 1/16
restriction. I lose a quart of oil in 30 minutes in flight out the
gearbox
vent. I temporarily rigged a catch can for this so I could keep flying.
I
should have taken oil from an unpressurized source (i.e., the oil pan). I
am going to switch to a dry sump for the gearbox this winter.

Despite that, my biggest problem continues to be radio noise. Can I
enlist
the help of you other auto conversion folks? Can you tell me about your
ignition and radio setup? What kind of spark plug wires are used? Are
they
shielded? I assume your ignition is electronic HEI of some sort. Mine
has
an electronic ignition module that sends a low voltage pulse to a standard
automotive coil which then sends the high voltage pulse through the
distributor to the spark plug. (Stock MSD stuff.) My radio is grounded
at
a grounding block that is attached to the firewall and the engine via a
large diameter grounding cable. My alternator is not the problem. I have
run the engine with the alternator belts detached and still have the radio
noise. I have filters on the radio power cables and the ignition module
power. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Mike





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Richard Wampach

[rebel-builders] Radio Noise

Post by Richard Wampach » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

Mike, Am I correct to assume your noise is from ignition? Do you have a
dual ignition system? Can you switch to single, like with magnetos
left, right, off, both. Try to isolate the problem. I am sure you have
experienced the problem in flight, how about just on the ground. Try
all the combinations you can such as strobes on / off, and all other
accessories. Let us know and a whole bunch of the experts may have good
opinions on a fix!
Dick Wampach SR-108

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Mike Kimball
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:58 PM
To: Rebel Builder's List
Subject: [rebel-builders] Radio Noise

I've finally gotten to the point where I can fly my plane regularly now.
I
have an issue with the oil system for my gearbox. I made the mistake of
supplying oil to the gearbox from a pressurized source from the engine.
At
60-70 psi I am giving the gearbox too much volume, even through a 1/16
restriction. I lose a quart of oil in 30 minutes in flight out the
gearbox
vent. I temporarily rigged a catch can for this so I could keep flying.
I
should have taken oil from an unpressurized source (i.e., the oil pan).
I
am going to switch to a dry sump for the gearbox this winter.

Despite that, my biggest problem continues to be radio noise. Can I
enlist
the help of you other auto conversion folks? Can you tell me about your
ignition and radio setup? What kind of spark plug wires are used? Are
they
shielded? I assume your ignition is electronic HEI of some sort. Mine
has
an electronic ignition module that sends a low voltage pulse to a
standard
automotive coil which then sends the high voltage pulse through the
distributor to the spark plug. (Stock MSD stuff.) My radio is grounded
at
a grounding block that is attached to the firewall and the engine via a
large diameter grounding cable. My alternator is not the problem. I
have
run the engine with the alternator belts detached and still have the
radio
noise. I have filters on the radio power cables and the ignition module
power. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Mike





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Mike Kimball

[rebel-builders] Radio Noise

Post by Mike Kimball » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

My ignition is an off-the-shelf full dual MSD ignition commonly used on
circle track racers that don't want to terminate a race just because of an
ignition component failure. There are two ignition modules, two coils, and
a distributer that has two magnetic pickups to trigger the ignition, one for
each ignition module. There is a switch on the panel to switch from one
ignition module and coil to the other ignition module and coil. You can't
run both ignitions at the same time. The radio noise is present with either
side. I am using Taylor 409 helical wound spark plug wires that are supposed
to be used for RF suppression. My spark plugs are resistor type NGK. All of
the headset jacks are isolated from the airframe with standard jack isolator
washers.

The problem is the same in flight and on the ground. Strobes and other
accessories don't make any difference. The pitch of the noise changes with
RPM so it is unlikely to be anything but ignition. If I unplug the antenna
wire the noise goes away so I believe it is an RF transmitted source. It is
much worse on the NAV than on the COMM for some reason. I am very well
protected from line noise with filters on power wires including very
expensive Ameri-King filters on the alternator output.

Thanks in advance to the builder's list for any information, ideas, etc.

Mike



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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Richard Wampach
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 4:08 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Radio Noise

Mike, Am I correct to assume your noise is from ignition? Do you have a
dual ignition system? Can you switch to single, like with magnetos
left, right, off, both. Try to isolate the problem. I am sure you have
experienced the problem in flight, how about just on the ground. Try
all the combinations you can such as strobes on / off, and all other
accessories. Let us know and a whole bunch of the experts may have good
opinions on a fix!
Dick Wampach SR-108

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Mike Kimball
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:58 PM
To: Rebel Builder's List
Subject: [rebel-builders] Radio Noise

I've finally gotten to the point where I can fly my plane regularly now.
I
have an issue with the oil system for my gearbox. I made the mistake of
supplying oil to the gearbox from a pressurized source from the engine.
At
60-70 psi I am giving the gearbox too much volume, even through a 1/16
restriction. I lose a quart of oil in 30 minutes in flight out the
gearbox
vent. I temporarily rigged a catch can for this so I could keep flying.
I
should have taken oil from an unpressurized source (i.e., the oil pan).
I
am going to switch to a dry sump for the gearbox this winter.

Despite that, my biggest problem continues to be radio noise. Can I
enlist
the help of you other auto conversion folks? Can you tell me about your
ignition and radio setup? What kind of spark plug wires are used? Are
they
shielded? I assume your ignition is electronic HEI of some sort. Mine
has
an electronic ignition module that sends a low voltage pulse to a
standard
automotive coil which then sends the high voltage pulse through the
distributor to the spark plug. (Stock MSD stuff.) My radio is grounded
at
a grounding block that is attached to the firewall and the engine via a
large diameter grounding cable. My alternator is not the problem. I
have
run the engine with the alternator belts detached and still have the
radio
noise. I have filters on the radio power cables and the ignition module
power. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Mike





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Ken

[rebel-builders] Radio Noise

Post by Ken » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

Good to hear things are moving along Mike.

Borrowing from Bob Knuckoll's - I'd suggest first finding out how the
noise is getting into the radio. If the noise is still there with the
radio powered by a separate battery that is not part of the airplane
system then you know it is radiated noise not conducted. Some guys use
two 6 volt dry cells. I use a booster battery such as used for starting
cars with bad batteries. You might also have to discover whether the
noise is being picked up by the intercom if you have one. The
aeroelectric connection book has a good chapter on noise. If it is
radiated noise then power filters will not help and other remedies are
appropriate.

Note that if working in a metal hangar you might hear radiated noise
that can't be heard when outside. I hear a little noise at idle but
nothing at higher power. I'm running multiple injector and 12 volt
igniton wires through the firewall in proximity to my audio circuits and
seem to be transferring some noise through the ground connections. That
is something else you can try - disconnect the radio (and intercom)
ground wires. My radio and intercom is internally grounded to the
chasis and then to the airframe so a small ground loop there is possible
although rare I'm told. Some guys have also had trouble with iridium
spark plugs. I use Champion or NGK resistor plugs and Magnecor spiral
wound racing ignition wires. I might have erroneously called them Taylor
wires previously. I do have a metal cowl.

Also you can post your results to the matronics aeroelectric list and
get some truly professional help.

Ken


Mike Kimball wrote:
I've finally gotten to the point where I can fly my plane regularly now. I
have an issue with the oil system for my gearbox. I made the mistake of
supplying oil to the gearbox from a pressurized source from the engine. At
60-70 psi I am giving the gearbox too much volume, even through a 1/16
restriction. I lose a quart of oil in 30 minutes in flight out the gearbox
vent. I temporarily rigged a catch can for this so I could keep flying. I
should have taken oil from an unpressurized source (i.e., the oil pan). I
am going to switch to a dry sump for the gearbox this winter.

Despite that, my biggest problem continues to be radio noise. Can I enlist
the help of you other auto conversion folks? Can you tell me about your
ignition and radio setup? What kind of spark plug wires are used? Are they
shielded? I assume your ignition is electronic HEI of some sort. Mine has
an electronic ignition module that sends a low voltage pulse to a standard
automotive coil which then sends the high voltage pulse through the
distributor to the spark plug. (Stock MSD stuff.) My radio is grounded at
a grounding block that is attached to the firewall and the engine via a
large diameter grounding cable. My alternator is not the problem. I have
run the engine with the alternator belts detached and still have the radio
noise. I have filters on the radio power cables and the ignition module
power. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Mike




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Charlie Eubanks

[rebel-builders] Radio noise

Post by Charlie Eubanks » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:10 pm

Mike
I had a early model Magellan Skyblazer GPS in my Luscombe 8A that generated
radio noise in my Icom receiver. Had to replace the GPS.
Charlie E.
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From: "Ken" <klehman@albedo.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 8:09 AM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Radio noise

Mike
Here's a couple more ideas from aeroelectric if you are not on that list:
Ken

Has it always been there or did it come about after a few hours running?
Sometimes I get ignition noise...Then I change out the auto plugs and it
goes away.
If you have auto plugs on your EI it might be worth a try for a $1.20 a
piece...then turn off your mag in flight.
frank

Have you considered the alternator regulator starting to regulate at 2000
rpm upwards, and the more pronounced effect this could be having with an
older battery, letting transient noise into the DC bus?
Ralph


I had an exactly identical problem with a KX155. There was a thread on it
several months ago
Eventually found it was the intercom picking up ignition noise. To
diagnose it i had to remove the intercom pin from the back of the radio.
Most, but not all, of the noise disappeared. Just working on one headset
without removing the intercom pin-out still gave the problem. Solved it by
installing an external intercom.
- Frank



Mike Kimball wrote:
I haven't finished trying all the suggestions that came from the list on
my
radio noise. The answer might be there! If it isn't I'll just keep
bugging
the list until it is! Thanks list!

Mike
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Mike Kimball

[rebel-builders] Radio noise

Post by Mike Kimball » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:10 pm

Thanks Ken. I should spend some time on Aeroelectric. I'm on my third set
of auto plugs with no change (experimenting with heat range). Eliminated
the alternator by running the engine without the alternator (took the belts
off and left the alternator master off). The intercom thing sounds
interesting. Sounds like just having the intercom turned off was not enough
to eliminate it as a source for that guy. I wonder if pulling the intercom
out of the tray is enough to eliminate it as a source. Getting to an
"intercom pin" (what in the world is that?) on the back of the radio is
pretty much impossible.

Charlie - thanks for the GPS suggestion. No GPS installed right now. I'm
set up for my handheld but have not put it in yet.

Someone suggested disconnecting the radio gound wire because the radio may
be grounded through the mounting tray and the two grounds might be causing a
loop. I'd like to try that although I've been told that if the noise
changes in pitch with RPM it is ignition related and probably not grounding.

Again, thanks everyone and keep the suggestions coming. I'll put together a
list so I can work my way through when it warms up enough to do that.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 5:09 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Radio noise

Mike
Here's a couple more ideas from aeroelectric if you are not on that list:
Ken

Has it always been there or did it come about after a few hours running?
Sometimes I get ignition noise...Then I change out the auto plugs and it
goes away.
If you have auto plugs on your EI it might be worth a try for a $1.20 a
piece...then turn off your mag in flight.
frank

Have you considered the alternator regulator starting to regulate at 2000
rpm upwards, and the more pronounced effect this could be having with an
older battery, letting transient noise into the DC bus?
Ralph


I had an exactly identical problem with a KX155. There was a thread on it
several months ago
Eventually found it was the intercom picking up ignition noise. To diagnose
it i had to remove the intercom pin from the back of the radio. Most, but
not all, of the noise disappeared. Just working on one headset without
removing the intercom pin-out still gave the problem. Solved it by
installing an external intercom.
- Frank



Mike Kimball wrote:
I haven't finished trying all the suggestions that came from the list on my
radio noise. The answer might be there! If it isn't I'll just keep
bugging
the list until it is! Thanks list!

Mike
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Scott Berry

[rebel-builders] Radio noise

Post by Scott Berry » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:10 pm

Mike,

Could you put that list up on a web site or something? This might be good
for other builders as well.

Scott


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Kimball" <mkimball@gci.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:35 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Radio noise

Thanks Ken. I should spend some time on Aeroelectric. I'm on my third
set
of auto plugs with no change (experimenting with heat range). Eliminated
the alternator by running the engine without the alternator (took the
belts
off and left the alternator master off). The intercom thing sounds
interesting. Sounds like just having the intercom turned off was not
enough
to eliminate it as a source for that guy. I wonder if pulling the
intercom
out of the tray is enough to eliminate it as a source. Getting to an
"intercom pin" (what in the world is that?) on the back of the radio is
pretty much impossible.

Charlie - thanks for the GPS suggestion. No GPS installed right now. I'm
set up for my handheld but have not put it in yet.

Someone suggested disconnecting the radio ground wire because the radio
may
be grounded through the mounting tray and the two grounds might be causing
a
loop. I'd like to try that although I've been told that if the noise
changes in pitch with RPM it is ignition related and probably not
grounding.

Again, thanks everyone and keep the suggestions coming. I'll put together
a
list so I can work my way through when it warms up enough to do that.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 5:09 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Radio noise

Mike
Here's a couple more ideas from aeroelectric if you are not on that list:
Ken

Has it always been there or did it come about after a few hours running?
Sometimes I get ignition noise...Then I change out the auto plugs and it
goes away.
If you have auto plugs on your EI it might be worth a try for a $1.20 a
piece...then turn off your mag in flight.
frank

Have you considered the alternator regulator starting to regulate at 2000
rpm upwards, and the more pronounced effect this could be having with an
older battery, letting transient noise into the DC bus?
Ralph


I had an exactly identical problem with a KX155. There was a thread on it
several months ago
Eventually found it was the intercom picking up ignition noise. To
diagnose
it i had to remove the intercom pin from the back of the radio. Most, but
not all, of the noise disappeared. Just working on one headset without
removing the intercom pin-out still gave the problem. Solved it by
installing an external intercom.
- Frank



Mike Kimball wrote:
I haven't finished trying all the suggestions that came from the list on
my
radio noise. The answer might be there! If it isn't I'll just keep
bugging
the list until it is! Thanks list!

Mike
044SR




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Ron Shannon

[rebel-builders] Radio noise

Post by Ron Shannon » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:10 pm

You can subscribe to the AeroElectric mailing list (highly recommended)
at http://www.matronics.com/subscribe/ See also http://aeroelectric.com
where you can get the essential AeroElectric Connection book, and many
other articles, etc.

Matronics sponsor several other aviation related mailing lists as well,
including those list at the link above, and others at
http://www.matronics.com/emaillists/



Scott Berry wrote:
Mike,

Could you put that list up on a web site or something? This might be good
for other builders as well.

Scott

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Scott Berry

[rebel-builders] Radio noise

Post by Scott Berry » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:10 pm

Yep,

I am on the list already Ron. Also on the avionics list too. Some very
interesting and good reading. Thanks for the leads though.

Scott


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Shannon" <rshannon@cruzcom.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Radio noise

You can subscribe to the AeroElectric mailing list (highly recommended)
at http://www.matronics.com/subscribe/ See also http://aeroelectric.com
where you can get the essential AeroElectric Connection book, and many
other articles, etc.

Matronics sponsor several other aviation related mailing lists as well,
including those list at the link above, and others at
http://www.matronics.com/emaillists/



Scott Berry wrote:
Mike,

Could you put that list up on a web site or something? This might be
good
for other builders as well.

Scott

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