[rebel-builders] Engine mount

[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Can't remember Jean. Was that engine conical or dynafocal mounting?

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Poirier" <jean.poirier@oxyportneuf.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 8:36 AM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Engine mount


[quote]Hello

I am looking for a Rebel engine mount for a Lycoming 0-235.

Thanks

Jean
Rebel 747R

Jean Poirier
Pr

[Jean Poirier]

Oups..

It is for 0-235C1 . I think they call that conical. The mounts are 90
degrees with the crank direction... not at angle... Like my 0-200 in my
C-150... Do you understand what I mean?

Jean
Rebel 747R

Jean Poirier
Pr

[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Flat face to bolt engine to = conical mount Jean. Angled = Dynafocal

There are two versions of the conical. The original for using the nose bowl
and doors cowling and then an updated one that was redesigned so that
conical mount engines would fit up inside the speed cowling. I believe it
was made with the engine 1 1/2" higher or similar than the original. Walter
probably knows exactly as that is what he has on his Rebel!

Can't help you with a mount, I only have a dynafocal tucked away for a rainy
day..... that currently is not for sale before anyone asks.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Poirier" <jean.poirier@oxyportneuf.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:45 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Engine mount


[quote]Oups..

It is for 0-235C1 . I think they call that conical. The mounts are 90
degrees with the crank direction... not at angle... Like my 0-200 in my
C-150... Do you understand what I mean?

Jean
Rebel 747R

Jean Poirier
Pr

[Jean Poirier]

Hep..

If I remember when I was looking before ordering the kit, Bob P. recommend
me the standard cowl saying it was easier to work with and the speed lost
was not significant. I have already buy a nose bowl at the last Sun'Fun
from an Ontario guy who was making Cup copy (he did sale the company to the
people of "Turbin Legend" or "turbin Cub". What will be your choice today?

Jean Poirier
Pr

[WALTER KLATT]

Yes, that's correct. There were 2 versions of the conical mount. The 2nd one raised the engine 1.5 inches higher. What I don't know, is exactly which one MAM sells today, or maybe they still have both.

Walter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Date: Monday, January 8, 2007 1:57 pm
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Engine mount

Flat face to bolt engine to = conical mount Jean. Angled = Dynafocal

There are two versions of the conical. The original for using the
nose bowl
and doors cowling and then an updated one that was redesigned so
that
conical mount engines would fit up inside the speed cowling. I
believe it
was made with the engine 1 1/2" higher or similar than the
original. Walter
probably knows exactly as that is what he has on his Rebel!

Can't help you with a mount, I only have a dynafocal tucked away
for a rainy
day..... that currently is not for sale before anyone asks.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Poirier" <jean.poirier@oxyportneuf.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:45 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Engine mount

Oups..

It is for 0-235C1 . I think they call that conical. The

mounts are 90

degrees with the crank direction... not at angle... Like my 0-

200 in my

C-150... Do you understand what I mean?

Jean
Rebel 747R

Jean Poirier
Pr

[Bob Patterson]

Hi Jean !

The 4 door cowl is still MY choice ! :-)

--
......bobp
http://www.prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 08 January 2007 22:06, Jean Poirier wrote:
[quote]Hep..

If I remember when I was looking before ordering the kit, Bob P. recommend
me the standard cowl saying it was easier to work with and the speed lost
was not significant. I have already buy a nose bowl at the last Sun'Fun
from an Ontario guy who was making Cup copy (he did sale the company to the
people of "Turbin Legend" or "turbin Cub". What will be your choice today?

Jean Poirier
Pr

[jean.poirier]

Hello Bob

On their web site, MAM just show one conical engine mount, probably the one for speed cowl. I will ask them tomorow... Do you have a part
number for the "standard one" ?

Jean
Rebel 747R

On Mon Jan 8 19:07 , Bob Patterson <beep@sympatico.ca> sent:

[quote]
Hi Jean !

The 4 door cowl is still MY choice ! :-)

--
......bobp
http://www.prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 08 January 2007 22:06, Jean Poirier wrote:
[quote]Hep..

If I remember when I was looking before ordering the kit, Bob P. recommend
me the standard cowl saying it was easier to work with and the speed lost
was not significant. I have already buy a nose bowl at the last Sun'Fun
from an Ontario guy who was making Cup copy (he did sale the company to the
people of "Turbin Legend" or "turbin Cub". What will be your choice today?

Jean Poirier
Pr

[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Rare as hen's teeth Jean.....but worth a shot to ask here on the list. 95%
of the mounts that left the factory are/were dynafocal.

Randy recently ordered one from Steve for his fuselage and it's supposed to
be here mid March, so I can attach to same......and it had better.......

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Poirier" <jean.poirier@oxyportneuf.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:00 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Engine mount


[quote]Hello

I am looking for Lycoming conical engine mount for a Rebel (part number
E-79). Let me know if you have one for sale.

Jean
Rebel 747R

Jean Poirier
Pr

[Nancy Puff]

Hi Jean


The part # is E-77 for the Conical Mount Rebel/ Elite 477.83 USD @ Murphy
There are no Rings required for this one and is easier to get made.

But Wayne is right the most common one is the Dynafocal



Nancy

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Jean Poirier
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:00 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Engine mount

Hello

I am looking for Lycoming conical engine mount for a Rebel (part number
E-79). Let me know if you have one for sale...

Jean
Rebel 747R

Jean Poirier
Pr

[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Nancy...are they still making two different ones or just a single style of
the conical to cover both cowlings. The original conical was for the nose
bowl and doors cowling and later they realized that to fit a conical engine
into the speed cowling (that was laid up using a dynafocal engine)....it had
to be made 1.5" higher to the engine center line than the original conical
mount. That 1.5" makes a big difference in the look of the cowl when using
the nose bowl and doors. I can tell an old conical mount Rebel and a
dynafocal mount Rebel from 500 feet away when both have the nose bowl and
doors cowling...........and I really prefer the ability to slop the nose
down to the nose bowl away from the windshield with the old mount. The
newer/higher conical and the dynafocal mounts both make the nose bowls top
edge pretty much level with the windshield bottom..ie no slope away to the
nose.

Wayne


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy Puff" <nancy@rotech.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:38 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Engine mount


[quote]Hi Jean


The part # is E-77 for the Conical Mount Rebel/ Elite 477.83 USD @ Murphy
There are no Rings required for this one and is easier to get made.

But Wayne is right the most common one is the Dynafocal



Nancy

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Jean
Poirier
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:00 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Engine mount

Hello

I am looking for Lycoming conical engine mount for a Rebel (part number
E-79). Let me know if you have one for sale...

Jean
Rebel 747R

Jean Poirier
Pr

[jean.poirier]

Hello Nancy

I know, thanks.

Jean

On Wed Feb 21 17:38 , 'Nancy Puff' <nancy@rotech.ca> sent:

[quote]Hi Jean


The part # is E-77 for the Conical Mount Rebel/ Elite 477.83 USD @ Murphy
There are no Rings required for this one and is easier to get made.

But Wayne is right the most common one is the Dynafocal



Nancy

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mike.davis@dcsol.com','','','')">mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Jean Poirier
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:00 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Engine mount

Hello

I am looking for Lycoming conical engine mount for a Rebel (part number
E-79). Let me know if you have one for sale...

Jean
Rebel 747R

Jean Poirier
Pr

[Nancy Puff]

Hi Wayne,

They are not making two different ones it is the same conical mount they made before

Darryl says that the Conical mount will work with the new High Speed cowling it was modified to fit both.

I can't say from personal experience however.


Nancy

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:57 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Engine mount

Nancy...are they still making two different ones or just a single style of the conical to cover both cowlings. The original conical was for the nose bowl and doors cowling and later they realized that to fit a conical engine into the speed cowling (that was laid up using a dynafocal engine)....it had to be made 1.5" higher to the engine center line than the original conical mount. That 1.5" makes a big difference in the look of the cowl when using the nose bowl and doors. I can tell an old conical mount Rebel and a dynafocal mount Rebel from 500 feet away when both have the nose bowl and doors cowling...........and I really prefer the ability to slop the nose down to the nose bowl away from the windshield with the old mount. The newer/higher conical and the dynafocal mounts both make the nose bowls top edge pretty much level with the windshield bottom..ie no slope away to the nose.

Wayne


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy Puff" <nancy@rotech.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:38 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Engine mount


[quote]Hi Jean


The part # is E-77 for the Conical Mount Rebel/ Elite 477.83 USD @ Murphy
There are no Rings required for this one and is easier to get made.

But Wayne is right the most common one is the Dynafocal



Nancy

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Jean
Poirier
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:00 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Engine mount

Hello

I am looking for Lycoming conical engine mount for a Rebel (part number
E-79). Let me know if you have one for sale...

Jean
Rebel 747R

Jean Poirier
Pr

[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Thanks...is what I figured to keep it simple. Most wouldn't know there was
ever a difference...if I'd just shut my mouth! LOL

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy Puff" <nancy@rotech.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:17 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Engine mount


[quote]Hi Wayne,

They are not making two different ones it is the same conical mount they
made before

Darryl says that the Conical mount will work with the new High Speed
cowling it was modified to fit both.

I can't say from personal experience however.


Nancy

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:57 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Engine mount

Nancy...are they still making two different ones or just a single style of
the conical to cover both cowlings. The original conical was for the nose
bowl and doors cowling and later they realized that to fit a conical
engine into the speed cowling (that was laid up using a dynafocal
engine)....it had to be made 1.5" higher to the engine center line than
the original conical mount. That 1.5" makes a big difference in the look
of the cowl when using the nose bowl and doors. I can tell an old conical
mount Rebel and a dynafocal mount Rebel from 500 feet away when both have
the nose bowl and doors cowling...........and I really prefer the ability
to slop the nose down to the nose bowl away from the windshield with the
old mount. The newer/higher conical and the dynafocal mounts both make the
nose bowls top edge pretty much level with the windshield bottom..ie no
slope away to the nose.

Wayne


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy Puff" <nancy@rotech.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:38 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Engine mount


[quote]Hi Jean


The part # is E-77 for the Conical Mount Rebel/ Elite 477.83 USD @ Murphy
There are no Rings required for this one and is easier to get made.

But Wayne is right the most common one is the Dynafocal



Nancy

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Jean
Poirier
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:00 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Engine mount

Hello

I am looking for Lycoming conical engine mount for a Rebel (part number
E-79). Let me know if you have one for sale...

Jean
Rebel 747R

Jean Poirier
Pr

[Nancy Puff]

Hey Wayne,

Unless there was some change before I got there
I was told there was only ever one mount
But before they changed the cowling it only fit the nose bowl.
They did do a lot of work with the new high speed cowling to make it fit both.
I only have 2 cents to contribute you have so much more :)


Nancy

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:26 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Engine mount

Thanks...is what I figured to keep it simple. Most wouldn't know there was ever a difference...if I'd just shut my mouth! LOL

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy Puff" <nancy@rotech.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:17 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Engine mount


[quote]Hi Wayne,

They are not making two different ones it is the same conical mount they
made before

Darryl says that the Conical mount will work with the new High Speed
cowling it was modified to fit both.

I can't say from personal experience however.


Nancy

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:57 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Engine mount

Nancy...are they still making two different ones or just a single style of
the conical to cover both cowlings. The original conical was for the nose
bowl and doors cowling and later they realized that to fit a conical
engine into the speed cowling (that was laid up using a dynafocal
engine)....it had to be made 1.5" higher to the engine center line than
the original conical mount. That 1.5" makes a big difference in the look
of the cowl when using the nose bowl and doors. I can tell an old conical
mount Rebel and a dynafocal mount Rebel from 500 feet away when both have
the nose bowl and doors cowling...........and I really prefer the ability
to slop the nose down to the nose bowl away from the windshield with the
old mount. The newer/higher conical and the dynafocal mounts both make the
nose bowls top edge pretty much level with the windshield bottom..ie no
slope away to the nose.

Wayne


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy Puff" <nancy@rotech.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:38 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Engine mount


[quote]Hi Jean


The part # is E-77 for the Conical Mount Rebel/ Elite 477.83 USD @ Murphy
There are no Rings required for this one and is easier to get made.

But Wayne is right the most common one is the Dynafocal



Nancy

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Jean
Poirier
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:00 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Engine mount

Hello

I am looking for Lycoming conical engine mount for a Rebel (part number
E-79). Let me know if you have one for sale...

Jean
Rebel 747R

Jean Poirier
Pr

[WALTER KLATT]

Some day it would be interesting to compare my conical mount to a current one. It was my engine that was brought into MAM many years ago, to fit a new conical mount for the speed cowl. The original one was 1.5 inches lower. I assume, but am not sure if mine is the current one. They also made a new bottom cowl with my engine, with the carb centered. Not sure if that is still used either. I do remember, and also quite a few years ago, walking through the factory with Robin, and found a few old moulds in a back room for the high speed cowl. One of them was for my engine.

But if I ever go to a clone 0360, will have to decide if I want to stick with my old conical mount and whether I will need a new cowl.

Walter

----- Original Message -----
From: Nancy Puff <nancy@rotech.ca>
Date: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:39 pm
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Engine mount

Hey Wayne,

Unless there was some change before I got there
I was told there was only ever one mount
But before they changed the cowling it only fit the nose bowl.
They did do a lot of work with the new high speed cowling to make
it fit both.
I only have 2 cents to contribute you have so much more :)


Nancy

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf
Of Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:26 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Engine mount

Thanks...is what I figured to keep it simple. Most wouldn't know
there was ever a difference...if I'd just shut my mouth! LOL

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy Puff" <nancy@rotech.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:17 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Engine mount

Hi Wayne,

They are not making two different ones it is the same conical

mount they

made before

Darryl says that the Conical mount will work with the new High

Speed

cowling it was modified to fit both.

I can't say from personal experience however.


Nancy

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On

Behalf Of

Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:57 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Engine mount

Nancy...are they still making two different ones or just a

single style of

the conical to cover both cowlings. The original conical was for

the nose

bowl and doors cowling and later they realized that to fit a

conical

engine into the speed cowling (that was laid up using a

dynafocal

engine)....it had to be made 1.5" higher to the engine center

line than

the original conical mount. That 1.5" makes a big difference in

the look

of the cowl when using the nose bowl and doors. I can tell an

old conical

mount Rebel and a dynafocal mount Rebel from 500 feet away when

both have

the nose bowl and doors cowling...........and I really prefer

the ability

to slop the nose down to the nose bowl away from the windshield

with the

old mount. The newer/higher conical and the dynafocal mounts

both make the

nose bowls top edge pretty much level with the windshield

bottom..ie no

slope away to the nose.

Wayne


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy Puff" <nancy@rotech.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:38 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Engine mount

Hi Jean


The part # is E-77 for the Conical Mount Rebel/ Elite 477.83

USD @ Murphy

There are no Rings required for this one and is easier to get made.

But Wayne is right the most common one is the Dynafocal



Nancy

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On

Behalf Of

Jean
Poirier
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:00 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Engine mount

Hello

I am looking for Lycoming conical engine mount for a Rebel

(part number

E-79). Let me know if you have one for sale...

Jean
Rebel 747R

Jean Poirier
Pr�sident
Oxyg�ne Portneuf Inc.





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