Everbrite

[Jones, Michael]

good point bob the link to prekote is not the same stuff as everbrite

mike#007

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Brian Breathnach
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:05 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Everbrite


Good Morning Bob
OK, got it--thanx
Brian


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <beep@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: Everbrite

Hi Brian !

I think this product is meant as a paint primer, for large
surfaces. The beauty of Everbrite is that it's CLEAR - perfect
if you want a shiny aluminum float, or airplane.

Nothing beats the Polyfiber Epoxy Primer for bonding
pieces together !

.......bobp

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On Tuesday 25 October 2005 12:14 pm, Brian Breathnach wrote:

Hi Al,

Interesting product.

Would you know if the product has the same (or better) adhesive and

shear

performance as the chrommate based primers when applied between alum

sheets?

Anyone out there use it yet?

Thanx
Brian
779R





----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ricker" <daricker@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Everbrite

Al

You might want to check this stuff out:

http://www.pantheonchemical.com/PreKote.htm

I probably heard of it here but the test reports by the military/labs

make

it sound like a no-brainer for an adhesion promoting & corrosion

preventing

treatment. The military test report they quote make it sound better

than

alodine not to mention it has no hazmat issues.

Dave

Alan Hepburn wrote:

called Everbrite as a possibility for use on floats. It sounds really
interesting. Who was the person who had tried it, and what size of a
project has he used it on? It seems that eurethane may not be the best
choice for floats if the airplane is going to be in the water for any

length

of time, as it tends to form bubbles. Even if this Everbrite proves a

bad

choice, there doesn't seem to be too much to loose, as long as it

doesn't

actually cause corrosion, as it can be removed with acetone.

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[Jesse Jenks]

Yes,
It sounds pretty cool.
Thanks
Jesse

From: "Jones, Michael" <Michael.Jones@snclavalin.com>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: "'rebel-builders@dcsol.com'" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: RE: Everbrite
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:24:55 -0400

Jesse

for closing wing that's what you would could do, although main purpose of
cromate is to keep moisture out it does provide some strength, you could
apply everbrite over the skin them cromate on top of everbrite, would
reduce
the strength but sure would never corrode

as for inside of fus and wings assemble and rivet everything then slop in
the everbrite with rag everywhere, does not matter if it runs a little, but
keep it clear of pro seal as naphtha would dissolve proseal i am guessing

easy eh ??

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Jesse Jenks
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 1:17 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: Everbrite



Mike,
Just clean with solvent, but no Scotchbrighting required? What do you do on
interior surfaces that will get epoxy primer in the joint, and Everbright
everywhere else? For example, when putting the top skin on the wing, would
you mask off all the rib/spar/stringer locations, apply the Everbright, let
it dry then peel the tape and apply epoxy primer to the joint areas just
before riveting?
Jesse

From: "Jones, Michael" <Michael.Jones@snclavalin.com>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: "'rebel-builders@dcsol.com'" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: RE: Everbrite
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:06:10 -0400

jesse

you must clean and degrease surface before applying, acetone works or
another good cleaner such as the orange based cleaners, then just wipe on
and your done, its that simple

mike#007

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Jesse Jenks
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 1:01 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: Everbrite



Can you just wipe it on without any prep work?
Jesse

From: "Jones, Michael" <Michael.Jones@snclavalin.com>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: "'rebel-builders@dcsol.com'" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: RE: Everbrite
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:45:35 -0400

hi brain

i have used this stuff all over the place
its is totally different than the chromate we use, it has no strength

to

hold sheets together, when i use it i assemble with wet chromate

between

sheets then later on apply everbrite to all surfaces with a rag, it

works

great is fast and lasts a long time, it stays flexible and never cracks

or

peels off, i highly recommend it

mike #007

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Brian Breathnach
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:15 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Everbrite


Hi Al,

Interesting product.

Would you know if the product has the same (or better) adhesive and

shear

performance as the chrommate based primers when applied between alum
sheets?

Anyone out there use it yet?

Thanx
Brian
779R





----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ricker" <daricker@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Everbrite

military/labs

make
it sound like a no-brainer for an adhesion promoting & corrosion

preventing

treatment. The military test report they quote make it sound better

than

alodine not to mention it has no hazmat issues.

product

called Everbrite as a possibility for use on floats. It sounds really
interesting. Who was the person who had tried it, and what size of a
project has he used it on? It seems that eurethane may not be the best
choice for floats if the airplane is going to be in the water for any
length
of time, as it tends to form bubbles. Even if this Everbrite proves a

bad

choice, there doesn't seem to be too much to loose, as long as it

doesn't

actually cause corrosion, as it can be removed with acetone.

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[Alan Hepburn]

I am getting near the point of applying Everbrite to my floats, and
wonder if anybody who has had this material on for some time has an
update on its performance.

Al Hepburn
Elite 587






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[Alan Hepburn]

I have just received my Everbrite, which I plan to use to coat my
floats. The prep calls fo using xylene and detanured alcohol. Does
anybody know if these are compatible with the Sikaflex caulk used for
the floats?

Al




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[Alan Hepburn]

Nigel:

The Everbrite looks as good as the day it went on, but the bottoms of
the floats, which I did not treat, look OK as well. I bought their 2
quart can and had lots left over. I'm rather glad I didn't paint them.
Over the course of the summer, I've done about 35 water landings, and
docked perhaps at 20 different locations, and I've picked up a few dings
and scrapes. The only bit that is painted - the water rudders - had to
get touched up this fall. It would have been a real pain to touch up
all the other areas.

You have the correct location fore Everbrite, and the preparation
material you need (xylene and methyl hydrate) are available at a paint
store.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
N.Smith
Sent: November 19, 2006 3:23 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Winterproofing Floats


Hi Al

Even getting frost overnight here as well now !

I think Wayne recommended plumbing antifreeze not long ago for that job.
You might be best to contact a tech rep for the sealant and ask his/her
advice !

I wonder if something like ACF50 would displace water, allowing it to
freeze and expand above the ACF50 layer and therefore not harm the
structure below ?

How's the Everbrite holding up ?

I've found it I think at http://www.everbrite.net - is this the correct
stuff ?, and how much would you reckon is needed for both floats and the
support struts ?

Finally - did you ever do the underneath as well - I wonder would it/did
it have any effect on handling ?

Stay warm

Nig
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Alan Hepburn
Sent: 19 November 2006 02:38
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Winterproofing Floats


I am concerned that any moisture in the seams of my flats may freeze and
open them up over winter. I am thinking of adding either a little
antifreeze or a little winshield washer fluid to each compartment. The
washer fluid is cheaper and probably more environmentally friendly. I
wonder if either fluid will soften the Sikaflex caulk in the float
seams. Any ideas?

Al Hepburn





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