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[rebel-builders] Rebel- more Fus-30, Fus-33 questions

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Bob Patterson

[rebel-builders] Rebel- more Fus-30, Fus-33 questions

Post by Bob Patterson » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:43 am

Hi Ben !

I don't know what #1 is all about either - suggest ignoring it, as it
may be the result of a typo on the old Excel email.

You definitely DO need to double FUS-30, even the new ones at .032 !
The doubler is easiest done by trimming a second FUS-30 - leave it long
enough in front to catch a few rivets at the end of the triangular side
insert. It must pick up all the rudder post rivets, most of the top bulkhead
rivets, and have a few added to hold the 2 layers together. You will
also want to slather in lots of Epoxy Primer (EP-430) between the pieces,
and assemble wet - the extra bonding will help !

There is a pic in the archives - could be a bit longer in front.

This FUS-30 doubler is the first Ontario Mod., and is essential to
prevent vertical cracks at the rudder post. Do it now, or fix it later ! :-(
Not too big a mod, but necessary.

From what I've read lately, the Moose might need a similar doubler in
the same area ....

Keep rivetting - you'll soon be FLYING !!! :-)

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Tuesday 25 April 2006 05:38 am, bransom@dcsol.com wrote:
Hi all,

Looking back at some recent posts I need clarification on the following:
On Wednesday 01 March 2006 09:53 am, Jean Poirier wrote:
1- FUS-33 made from .032" from bulkhead A to F.... replace the original
one or double it?

2- FUS-30 double it with .032"....
___________________________________________________
A. What is #1 above referring to? I see this line in the Excel File
(Rebel mods) -- and perhaps it is the one also noted unnecessary, adds
weight. My Fus-33 pieces are .022, and I only see in MAM where they end at
bulkhead E, and then it is Fus-29 top and bottom.

B. My Rebel kit #496 is with Fus-30 already .032.... does that need
something thicker or doubled? I thought perhaps not, but Jean's is #747,
and the thread (3/1/06) seemed to indicate it was appropriate.

Thanks -- I know the tail stuff must seem like beating a dead horse to the
old hands here.
-Ben



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bransom

[rebel-builders] Rebel- more Fus-30, Fus-33 questions

Post by bransom » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:43 am

Thanks Bob, Jesse,
Will order another Fus-30. I had also screwed up one of my Fus-33 pieces
so good to get both now ... will also look at the Fus-10, Fus-70 thing you
mentioned Jesse.
-Ben
Hi Ben !

I don't know what #1 is all about either - suggest ignoring it, as it
may be the result of a typo on the old Excel email.

You definitely DO need to double FUS-30, even the new ones at .032 !
The doubler is easiest done by trimming a second FUS-30 - leave it long
enough in front to catch a few rivets at the end of the triangular side
insert. It must pick up all the rudder post rivets, most of the top bulkhead
rivets, and have a few added to hold the 2 layers together. You will
also want to slather in lots of Epoxy Primer (EP-430) between the pieces,
and assemble wet - the extra bonding will help !

There is a pic in the archives - could be a bit longer in front.

This FUS-30 doubler is the first Ontario Mod., and is essential to
prevent vertical cracks at the rudder post. Do it now, or fix it later !
:-(
Not too big a mod, but necessary.

From what I've read lately, the Moose might need a similar doubler in
the same area ....

Keep rivetting - you'll soon be FLYING !!! :-)

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Tuesday 25 April 2006 05:38 am, bransom@dcsol.com wrote:
Hi all,

Looking back at some recent posts I need clarification on the following:
On Wednesday 01 March 2006 09:53 am, Jean Poirier wrote:
1- FUS-33 made from .032" from bulkhead A to F.... replace the original
one or double it?

2- FUS-30 double it with .032"....
___________________________________________________
A. What is #1 above referring to? I see this line in the Excel File
(Rebel mods) -- and perhaps it is the one also noted unnecessary, adds
weight. My Fus-33 pieces are .022, and I only see in MAM where they end at
bulkhead E, and then it is Fus-29 top and bottom.

B. My Rebel kit #496 is with Fus-30 already .032.... does that need
something thicker or doubled? I thought perhaps not, but Jean's is #747,
and the thread (3/1/06) seemed to indicate it was appropriate.

Thanks -- I know the tail stuff must seem like beating a dead horse to the
old hands here.
-Ben



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Bob Patterson

[rebel-builders] Rebel- more Fus-30, Fus-33 questions

Post by Bob Patterson » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:43 am

By all means, Ben ! I would build today using <ALL> FUS-70's - for all
8 of those sections. Definitely would not use FUS-10's - have had to replace
those !
.....bobp
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Tuesday 25 April 2006 05:21 pm, bransom@dcsol.com wrote:
Thanks Bob, Jesse,
Will order another Fus-30. I had also screwed up one of my Fus-33 pieces
so good to get both now ... will also look at the Fus-10, Fus-70 thing you
mentioned Jesse.
-Ben
Hi Ben !

I don't know what #1 is all about either - suggest ignoring it, as it
may be the result of a typo on the old Excel email.

You definitely DO need to double FUS-30, even the new ones at .032 !
The doubler is easiest done by trimming a second FUS-30 - leave it long
enough in front to catch a few rivets at the end of the triangular side
insert. It must pick up all the rudder post rivets, most of the top
bulkhead rivets, and have a few added to hold the 2 layers together. You
will also want to slather in lots of Epoxy Primer (EP-430) between the
pieces, and assemble wet - the extra bonding will help !

There is a pic in the archives - could be a bit longer in front.

This FUS-30 doubler is the first Ontario Mod., and is essential to
prevent vertical cracks at the rudder post. Do it now, or fix it later !
:-(
Not too big a mod, but necessary.

From what I've read lately, the Moose might need a similar doubler in
the same area ....

Keep rivetting - you'll soon be FLYING !!! :-)

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------

On Tuesday 25 April 2006 05:38 am, bransom@dcsol.com wrote:
Hi all,

Looking back at some recent posts I need clarification on the following: ___________________________________________________
A. What is #1 above referring to? I see this line in the Excel File
(Rebel mods) -- and perhaps it is the one also noted unnecessary, adds
weight. My Fus-33 pieces are .022, and I only see in MAM where they
end at bulkhead E, and then it is Fus-29 top and bottom.

B. My Rebel kit #496 is with Fus-30 already .032.... does that need
something thicker or doubled? I thought perhaps not, but Jean's is
#747, and the thread (3/1/06) seemed to indicate it was appropriate.

Thanks -- I know the tail stuff must seem like beating a dead horse to
the old hands here.
-Ben



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