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[rebel-builders] Grove gear on Elite

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Bob Patterson

[rebel-builders] Grove gear on Elite

Post by Bob Patterson » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:39 am

Hi Ralph !

I spoke to Mr. Grove about their gear - apparently thay have done
a couple of Rebels, but have NO pictures of the assembly. The ones
they did were retro-fixes, and they just used the existing 2 outer
bolts on each side to clamp the one-piece spring - no feedback on
how it worked.

I like your idea MUCH better - surely sturdy plates over top and
bottom of BOTH tubes (and the angles, etc.) would allow wider gear,
which would help distribute the load better. Mr. Grove also thought
that he could use thinner aluminum for the one-piece leg than the
stock gear, so there might not be too big a weight increase....

He said he would be happy to work with anyone who could supply
drawings and pictures of the gear mounting area, and might be able
to offer suggestions for a better setup. Might be worth discussing.

......bobp

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On Sunday 16 April 2006 02:04 am, Ralph Baker wrote:
Anyone have any opinions as to whether the full width, one piece Grove
spring gear would be an improvement on the Elite? We have the MAM
reinforcing angles installed and we will add several 5/8" square tubes from
firewall to carry throughs to support an inner floor as well as add
stiffnes front to rear. Also, witches hat will be added front to rear
inside the lower front corner wraps to stiffen them.

If the Grove gear is used we have considered mounting it with sturdy top
and bottom plates fastened with bolts front and rear of the carry throughs
rather than the MAM bolts through the carry throughs. (Picture a "U" bolt
around the two carrythroughs to make up for my poor description)

In any case, the saddles contacting the gear will be radiused for rolling
contact as the gear flexes. Thanks,
Ralph Baker

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Dave Ricker

[rebel-builders] Grove gear on Elite

Post by Dave Ricker » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:39 am

Guys

FWIW, the silver & green Rebel in Chiliwack that came from New Brunswick has one
piece Grove-like mains, I don't know if it is Grove but if there's anyone nearby
that could check it out & snap a few photos it may be interesting.

Cheers,

Dave

Bob Patterson wrote:
Hi Ralph !

I spoke to Mr. Grove about their gear - apparently thay have done
a couple of Rebels, but have NO pictures of the assembly. The ones
they did were retro-fixes, and they just used the existing 2 outer
bolts on each side to clamp the one-piece spring - no feedback on
how it worked.

I like your idea MUCH better - surely sturdy plates over top and
bottom of BOTH tubes (and the angles, etc.) would allow wider gear,
which would help distribute the load better. Mr. Grove also thought
that he could use thinner aluminum for the one-piece leg than the
stock gear, so there might not be too big a weight increase....

He said he would be happy to work with anyone who could supply
drawings and pictures of the gear mounting area, and might be able
to offer suggestions for a better setup. Might be worth discussing.

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Sunday 16 April 2006 02:04 am, Ralph Baker wrote:
Anyone have any opinions as to whether the full width, one piece Grove
spring gear would be an improvement on the Elite? We have the MAM
reinforcing angles installed and we will add several 5/8" square tubes from
firewall to carry throughs to support an inner floor as well as add
stiffnes front to rear. Also, witches hat will be added front to rear
inside the lower front corner wraps to stiffen them.

If the Grove gear is used we have considered mounting it with sturdy top
and bottom plates fastened with bolts front and rear of the carry throughs
rather than the MAM bolts through the carry throughs. (Picture a "U" bolt
around the two carrythroughs to make up for my poor description)

In any case, the saddles contacting the gear will be radiused for rolling
contact as the gear flexes. Thanks,
Ralph Baker
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