intercoms & radios

[Bob Patterson]

If you want an inexpensive comm with a good display, have a look at
the VAL COM - usually about $695 - and for an extra $75, they will
supply the wiring & jacks, completed & ready to mount. Had one,
flew several - worked great, and the display automatically dims
for night flying. Did use a separate intercom - have seen too
many hassles with built-in ones.

You will likely need a line filter for generator/alternator
noise ....

.....bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Saturday 10 December 2005 12:58 pm, steve whitenect wrote:

The same guy that told me about the Garmin has the Icom as well and wished
he got something a bit better. Not really satisified with the Icom

Steve W.

From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: intercoms
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 22:31:56 -0500

The Icom A-200 has a built in intercom as well. Very poorly documented
and no obvious squelch adjustment. I didn't use it and don't know if it
is VOX or PTT.
Ken

steve whitenect wrote:

I used the softcom on my last plane and it came with everything and I

think

it's about the same price. Worked great. Just wired my dash on Rebel
#637and used the Garmin SL-40 radio and GTX320A transponder. Thanks

to

a

buddy, I returned my intercom as the Garmin has one built in. Not

specified

in the feature listings in AS&S catalog. Seems to work really well in

the

garage! Something else I didn't have to install or pay for. Other than

the

headset/jack wiring, all it required was another wire to a switch to

ground

to activate the intercom.

Steve W

from

volume.

with

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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Glad U threw in the last line Bob! Good (but cheap) radio...bad for line
noise squeal. Taken care of best with a positive line filter right before
the radio.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <beep@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: intercoms & radios

If you want an inexpensive comm with a good display, have a look at
the VAL COM - usually about $695 - and for an extra $75, they will
supply the wiring & jacks, completed & ready to mount. Had one,
flew several - worked great, and the display automatically dims
for night flying. Did use a separate intercom - have seen too
many hassles with built-in ones.

You will likely need a line filter for generator/alternator
noise ....

.....bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Saturday 10 December 2005 12:58 pm, steve whitenect wrote:

The same guy that told me about the Garmin has the Icom as well and

wished

he got something a bit better. Not really satisified with the Icom

Steve W.

From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: intercoms
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 22:31:56 -0500

The Icom A-200 has a built in intercom as well. Very poorly documented
and no obvious squelch adjustment. I didn't use it and don't know if

it

is VOX or PTT.
Ken

steve whitenect wrote:

I

think

Rebel

to

a specified

in

the

than

the ground

was

from volume. with




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[ray.mason]

I have the Icom 200 and use the built in intercomm. As mentioned very poor
documentation. It has a PTT but I wired it to a toggle switch so it is either
in intercom mode or transmit mode.

Ray


12/10/2005 9:43 AM, beep@sympatico.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

->
-> If you want an inexpensive comm with a good display, have a look at
-> the VAL COM - usually about $695 - and for an extra $75, they will
-> supply the wiring & jacks, completed & ready to mount. Had one,
-> flew several - worked great, and the display automatically dims
-> for night flying. Did use a separate intercom - have seen too
-> many hassles with built-in ones.
->
-> You will likely need a line filter for generator/alternator
-> noise ....
->
-> .....bobp
->
-> -------------------------------orig.-------------------------
-> On Saturday 10 December 2005 12:58 pm, steve whitenect wrote:
-> > The same guy that told me about the Garmin has the Icom as well and
wished
-> > he got something a bit better. Not really satisified with the Icom
-> >
-> > Steve W.
-> >
-> >
-> > >From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
-> > >Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> > >To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> > >Subject: Re: intercoms
-> > >Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 22:31:56 -0500
-> > >
-> > >The Icom A-200 has a built in intercom as well. Very poorly documented
-> > >and no obvious squelch adjustment. I didn't use it and don't know if it
-> > >is VOX or PTT.
-> > >Ken
-> > >
-> > >steve whitenect wrote:
-> > >
-> > > >I used the softcom on my last plane and it came with everything and I
-> > >think
-> > > >it's about the same price. Worked great. Just wired my dash on
Rebel
-> > > >#637and used the Garmin SL-40 radio and GTX320A transponder. Thanks
-> to
-> > >a
-> > > >buddy, I returned my intercom as the Garmin has one built in. Not
-> > >specified
-> > > >in the feature listings in AS&S catalog. Seems to work really well
in
-> > >the
-> > > >garage! Something else I didn't have to install or pay for. Other
than
-> > >the
-> > > >headset/jack wiring, all it required was another wire to a switch to
-> > >ground
-> > > >to activate the intercom.
-> > > >
-> > > >Steve W
-> > > >
-> > > >
-> > > >
-> > > >
-> > > >>From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
-> > > >>Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> > > >>To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> > > >>Subject: Re: intercoms
-> > > >>Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:57:18 -0500
-> > > >>
-> > > >>The replacement intercom I got after ditching the Sigtronics one
was
-> > >from
-> > > >>NAT. It is not the cheapest, but it works great and has lots of
-> > >volume.
-> > > >>It
-> > > >>cured all my radio and intercom problems at once. It does not come
-> > >with
-> > > >>jacks.
-> > > >>
-> > > >>Al

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[Bill Delcambre]

Gents,

For my $$$, there isn't a better intercomm made than the one from PS
engineering. I put an early version in a (very noisy) homebuilt lots of
years ago. The feature that impressed me and a lot of others, is the
individual squelch controls. This allows you to correctly squelch mic
inputs from different headsets or differing noise environments, like when
your buddy insists on directing the vent directly at his face. A friend of
mine always insisted on using one of these 'mini-ear-bud' type headsets, but
I used David Clarks. The squelch settings were vastly different. Several
times, he told me that mine was the only plane he'd ever used the ear bud
thing, that allowed conversations with different makes of headsets. I later
upgraded to their audio panel and was equally impressed.

My $0.02

Bill



On 12/11/05, ray.mason@dcsol.com <ray.mason@dcsol.com> wrote:

I have the Icom 200 and use the built in intercomm. As mentioned very poor
documentation. It has a PTT but I wired it to a toggle switch so it is
either
in intercom mode or transmit mode.

Ray


12/10/2005 9:43 AM, beep@sympatico.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

->
-> If you want an inexpensive comm with a good display, have a look at
-> the VAL COM - usually about $695 - and for an extra $75, they will
-> supply the wiring & jacks, completed & ready to mount. Had one,
-> flew several - worked great, and the display automatically dims
-> for night flying. Did use a separate intercom - have seen too
-> many hassles with built-in ones.
->
-> You will likely need a line filter for generator/alternator
-> noise ....
->
-> .....bobp
->
-> -------------------------------orig.-------------------------
-> On Saturday 10 December 2005 12:58 pm, steve whitenect wrote:
-> > The same guy that told me about the Garmin has the Icom as well and
wished
-> > he got something a bit better. Not really satisified with the Icom
-> >
-> > Steve W.
-> >
-> >
-> > >From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
-> > >Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> > >To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> > >Subject: Re: intercoms
-> > >Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 22:31:56 -0500
-> > >
-> > >The Icom A-200 has a built in intercom as well. Very poorly
documented
-> > >and no obvious squelch adjustment. I didn't use it and don't know
if it
-> > >is VOX or PTT.
-> > >Ken
-> > >
-> > >steve whitenect wrote:
-> > >
-> > > >I used the softcom on my last plane and it came with everything
and I
-> > >think
-> > > >it's about the same price. Worked great. Just wired my dash on
Rebel
-> > > >#637and used the Garmin SL-40 radio and GTX320A
transponder. Thanks
-> to
-> > >a
-> > > >buddy, I returned my intercom as the Garmin has one built
in. Not
-> > >specified
-> > > >in the feature listings in AS&S catalog. Seems to work really
well
in
-> > >the
-> > > >garage! Something else I didn't have to install or pay for. Other
than
-> > >the
-> > > >headset/jack wiring, all it required was another wire to a switch
to
-> > >ground
-> > > >to activate the intercom.
-> > > >
-> > > >Steve W
-> > > >
-> > > >
-> > > >
-> > > >
-> > > >>From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
-> > > >>Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> > > >>To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> > > >>Subject: Re: intercoms
-> > > >>Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:57:18 -0500
-> > > >>
-> > > >>The replacement intercom I got after ditching the Sigtronics one
was
-> > >from
-> > > >>NAT. It is not the cheapest, but it works great and has lots of
-> > >volume.
-> > > >>It
-> > > >>cured all my radio and intercom problems at once. It does not
come
-> > >with
-> > > >>jacks.
-> > > >>
-> > > >>Al

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[Jones, Michael]

HEY BILL

okay ps eng intercom, what model ??

mike#007

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Bill Delcambre
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:30 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: intercoms & radios


Gents,

For my $$$, there isn't a better intercomm made than the one from PS
engineering. I put an early version in a (very noisy) homebuilt lots of
years ago. The feature that impressed me and a lot of others, is the
individual squelch controls. This allows you to correctly squelch mic
inputs from different headsets or differing noise environments, like when
your buddy insists on directing the vent directly at his face. A friend of
mine always insisted on using one of these 'mini-ear-bud' type headsets, but
I used David Clarks. The squelch settings were vastly different. Several
times, he told me that mine was the only plane he'd ever used the ear bud
thing, that allowed conversations with different makes of headsets. I later
upgraded to their audio panel and was equally impressed.

My $0.02

Bill



On 12/11/05, ray.mason@dcsol.com <ray.mason@dcsol.com> wrote:

I have the Icom 200 and use the built in intercomm. As mentioned very poor
documentation. It has a PTT but I wired it to a toggle switch so it is
either
in intercom mode or transmit mode.

Ray


12/10/2005 9:43 AM, beep@sympatico.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

->
-> If you want an inexpensive comm with a good display, have a look at
-> the VAL COM - usually about $695 - and for an extra $75, they will
-> supply the wiring & jacks, completed & ready to mount. Had one,
-> flew several - worked great, and the display automatically dims
-> for night flying. Did use a separate intercom - have seen too
-> many hassles with built-in ones.
->
-> You will likely need a line filter for generator/alternator
-> noise ....
->
-> .....bobp
->
-> -------------------------------orig.-------------------------
-> On Saturday 10 December 2005 12:58 pm, steve whitenect wrote:
-> > The same guy that told me about the Garmin has the Icom as well and
wished
-> > he got something a bit better. Not really satisified with the Icom
-> >
-> > Steve W.
-> >
-> >
-> > >From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
-> > >Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> > >To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> > >Subject: Re: intercoms
-> > >Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 22:31:56 -0500
-> > >
-> > >The Icom A-200 has a built in intercom as well. Very poorly
documented
-> > >and no obvious squelch adjustment. I didn't use it and don't know
if it
-> > >is VOX or PTT.
-> > >Ken
-> > >
-> > >steve whitenect wrote:
-> > >
-> > > >I used the softcom on my last plane and it came with everything
and I
-> > >think
-> > > >it's about the same price. Worked great. Just wired my dash on
Rebel
-> > > >#637and used the Garmin SL-40 radio and GTX320A
transponder. Thanks
-> to
-> > >a
-> > > >buddy, I returned my intercom as the Garmin has one built
in. Not
-> > >specified
-> > > >in the feature listings in AS&S catalog. Seems to work really
well
in
-> > >the
-> > > >garage! Something else I didn't have to install or pay for. Other
than
-> > >the
-> > > >headset/jack wiring, all it required was another wire to a switch
to
-> > >ground
-> > > >to activate the intercom.
-> > > >
-> > > >Steve W
-> > > >
-> > > >
-> > > >
-> > > >
-> > > >>From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
-> > > >>Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> > > >>To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> > > >>Subject: Re: intercoms
-> > > >>Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:57:18 -0500
-> > > >>
-> > > >>The replacement intercom I got after ditching the Sigtronics one
was
-> > >from
-> > > >>NAT. It is not the cheapest, but it works great and has lots of
-> > >volume.
-> > > >>It
-> > > >>cured all my radio and intercom problems at once. It does not
come
-> > >with
-> > > >>jacks.
-> > > >>
-> > > >>Al

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[Bill Delcambre]

The first one I had was the PM1000. Great performance, basic model. Later,
I upgraded to the PMA6000 unit, which is a full function audio panel, with
marker beacon indicators. I always liked the ability to have 4 frequencies
available with the dual flip-flop comms and the PMA6000 having this neat
'swap' switch. Flying from a class C airport, I'd have both approaches,
tower and ground all available by pushing a button or clicking a knob. Very
good unit.

Bill


On 12/12/05, Jones, Michael <Michael.Jones@snclavalin.com> wrote:

HEY BILL

okay ps eng intercom, what model ??

mike#007

-----Original Message-----
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Bill Delcambre
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:30 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: intercoms & radios


Gents,

For my $$$, there isn't a better intercomm made than the one from PS
engineering. I put an early version in a (very noisy) homebuilt lots of
years ago. The feature that impressed me and a lot of others, is the
individual squelch controls. This allows you to correctly squelch mic
inputs from different headsets or differing noise environments, like when
your buddy insists on directing the vent directly at his face. A friend
of
mine always insisted on using one of these 'mini-ear-bud' type headsets,
but
I used David Clarks. The squelch settings were vastly different. Several
times, he told me that mine was the only plane he'd ever used the ear bud
thing, that allowed conversations with different makes of headsets. I
later
upgraded to their audio panel and was equally impressed.

My $0.02

Bill



On 12/11/05, ray.mason@dcsol.com <ray.mason@dcsol.com> wrote:

I have the Icom 200 and use the built in intercomm. As mentioned very

poor

documentation. It has a PTT but I wired it to a toggle switch so it is
either
in intercom mode or transmit mode.

Ray


12/10/2005 9:43 AM, beep@sympatico.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

->
-> If you want an inexpensive comm with a good display, have a look

at

-> the VAL COM - usually about $695 - and for an extra $75, they will
-> supply the wiring & jacks, completed & ready to mount. Had one,
-> flew several - worked great, and the display automatically dims
-> for night flying. Did use a separate intercom - have seen too
-> many hassles with built-in ones.
->
-> You will likely need a line filter for generator/alternator
-> noise ....
->
-> .....bobp
->
-> -------------------------------orig.-------------------------
-> On Saturday 10 December 2005 12:58 pm, steve whitenect wrote:
-> > The same guy that told me about the Garmin has the Icom as well and
wished
-> > he got something a bit better. Not really satisified with the Icom
-> >
-> > Steve W.
-> >
-> >
-> > >From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
-> > >Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> > >To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> > >Subject: Re: intercoms
-> > >Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 22:31:56 -0500
-> > >
-> > >The Icom A-200 has a built in intercom as well. Very poorly
documented
-> > >and no obvious squelch adjustment. I didn't use it and don't know
if it
-> > >is VOX or PTT.
-> > >Ken
-> > >
-> > >steve whitenect wrote:
-> > >
-> > > >I used the softcom on my last plane and it came with everything
and I
-> > >think
-> > > >it's about the same price. Worked great. Just wired my dash

on

Rebel
-> > > >#637and used the Garmin SL-40 radio and GTX320A
transponder. Thanks
-> to
-> > >a
-> > > >buddy, I returned my intercom as the Garmin has one built
in. Not
-> > >specified
-> > > >in the feature listings in AS&S catalog. Seems to work really
well
in
-> > >the
-> > > >garage! Something else I didn't have to install or pay for.

Other

than
-> > >the
-> > > >headset/jack wiring, all it required was another wire to a

switch

to
-> > >ground
-> > > >to activate the intercom.
-> > > >
-> > > >Steve W
-> > > >
-> > > >
-> > > >
-> > > >
-> > > >>From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
-> > > >>Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> > > >>To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> > > >>Subject: Re: intercoms
-> > > >>Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:57:18 -0500
-> > > >>
-> > > >>The replacement intercom I got after ditching the Sigtronics

one

was
-> > >from
-> > > >>NAT. It is not the cheapest, but it works great and has lots

of

-> > >volume.
-> > > >>It
-> > > >>cured all my radio and intercom problems at once. It does not
come
-> > >with
-> > > >>jacks.
-> > > >>
-> > > >>Al

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[steve whitenect]

Charlie E was enquiring about the Garmin SL40 not being able to monitor the
side freq with the intercom on. I lit it up in the garage and both icons
are shown so I don't see why it wouldn't work.

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