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Jeff McMurrer

Yukon

Post by Jeff McMurrer » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:06 pm

Wayne,

Well said. Thought this was the place to help each other out, building airplanes :)

Jeff


----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Date: Tuesday, November 1, 2005 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: Yukon
Didn't mean to get a collection plate going...was just making a
statementoff the cuff, that if someone out there thinks they can
do a better
job...ante up to the plate. Been some slanderous postings in the
past little
while here on dcsol that had no business being laundered here and
I didn't
want MAM's decission to add to their product line to start another
one.
Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Brennan" <kevinjbrennan@sbcglobal.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: Yukon

Wayne you can count me in!!!!!

"Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca> wrote:I think you'll
see that
the wing is the basically the same as the SR2500,
stab is the same design as Elite/Moose as are the elevator, fin,
rudderetc.
Nothing new here and I'm sure all the SB's will be incorporated
(you can
even see the elevator horn SB in the drawing). I even noted the
tabs have
been cut off the bottom fin doubler where the stinger comes out
through.No
tabs..no cracks! The fuselage is obviously going to be somewhere
between> the Elite and the SR in length. I'm pretty sure darn
nearly every
bulkhead,
wing spar, rib, extrusion will be duplications of existing
models, with
very
few new parts that if they are any different will be same
tooling..thinner> gauge alum.
The other option is to pool all your money together, give Darryl
a huge
relief and buy him out, and then you can make all the decisions
yourself.> Everyone has a price...especially after 20 yrs ( at
least I did!! :O)) )
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: Yukon

If you take the SR2500 (non-Moose) and put a 180 HP engine on
it arn't
you
about at the same place as this Yukon in performance? From a
manufacturing> perspective wouldn't it be easier to bring back the
SR2500 as a product.
With any new design there are issues.. i.e. elevator re-
enforcement, tail
wheel, main gear, (look at the list of service bulletins) etc.
Why go thru
the learning curve AGAIN. If they brought back the SR2500 they
have the
learning curve behind them, the cost associated with the
learning curve,
the
customer acceptance, and the design is proven. If they want to
fix some of
the issues and give it a new name, fine, call it the SR2600!
Rick Muller
SR70

-------------- Original message --------------
turner on
front.
down on
the
PDF
builders:> > >
suggestions..I said
why
engine on
it
and
years and
check
the TC
registered @
put on the
Moose
than the
SR/Moose.
would still
want
slightly> > > -> > > shrunk SR2500!
180Hp to
210
Behalf Of
the Yukon.
interested in
interested
dfultz17086@earthlink.net> > > -> > > >
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ray.mason

Yukon

Post by ray.mason » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:06 pm

Hi Walter

Couldn't see on MAM site where it said the wings were 38. Looked 5 times
under specs still couldn't see it :). Got some inside info?

Ray

'On 11/1/2005 7:56 AM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

-> I notice that it will have a 38 foot wing span, longer than the SR/Moose.
Will this enhance floatplane performance? Of course, I would still want more
than 210 hp. The 2550 gross weight is OK.
->
-> Walter
->
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
-> Date: Tuesday, November 1, 2005 8:39 am
-> Subject: Re: Yukon
->
-> > Don't want to over generalize, but basically a very slightly
-> > shrunk SR2500!
-> > 2550 gross to run on an O-360 or other engines from 180Hp to 210
-> > Hp. 4 true
-> > seats.
-> >
-> > ----- Original Message -----
-> > From: "Jones, Michael" <Michael.Jones@snclavalin.com>
-> > To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:56 AM
-> > Subject: RE: Yukon
-> >
-> >
-> > > hey all
-> > >
-> > > i dont have internet at moment, what is the yukon ??
-> > >
-> > > mike#007
-> > >
-> > > -----Original Message-----
-> > > From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
-> > > Dale Fultz
-> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:53 AM
-> > > To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> > > Subject: Yukon
-> > >
-> > >
-> > > MAM has updated the site with more information on the Yukon.
-> > Could be
-> > what
-> > > I am looking for in an experimental. Might be interested in
-> > selling my
-> > > project to acquire one of these . If anyone might be interested
-> > please> e-mail me. Dale Fultz SR-033 dfultz17086@earthlink.net
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Dave Ricker

Yukon

Post by Dave Ricker » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:06 pm

Funny, when I looked at it I said to myself that it looked like it was an Elite
clone LOL!

Dave

Mike Davis wrote:
I was going to say the exploded drawings looked just like the drawings from
my Moose with a quick inspection. Doesn't look like they re-invented the
wheel here.

Mike
195SR

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: Yukon
I think you'll see that the wing is the basically the same as the SR2500,
stab is the same design as Elite/Moose as are the elevator, fin, rudder
etc.
Nothing new here and I'm sure all the SB's will be incorporated (you can
even see the elevator horn SB in the drawing). I even noted the tabs have
been cut off the bottom fin doubler where the stinger comes out through.
No
tabs..no cracks! The fuselage is obviously going to be somewhere between
the Elite and the SR in length. I'm pretty sure darn nearly every
bulkhead,
wing spar, rib, extrusion will be duplications of existing models, with
very
few new parts that if they are any different will be same tooling..thinner
gauge alum.

The other option is to pool all your money together, give Darryl a huge
relief and buy him out, and then you can make all the decisions yourself.
Everyone has a price...especially after 20 yrs ( at least I did!! :O)) )

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <rickhm@comcast.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: Yukon

If you take the SR2500 (non-Moose) and put a 180 HP engine on it arn't
you
about at the same place as this Yukon in performance? From a
manufacturing
perspective wouldn't it be easier to bring back the SR2500 as a product.
With any new design there are issues.. i.e. elevator re-enforcement, tail
wheel, main gear, (look at the list of service bulletins) etc. Why go
thru
the learning curve AGAIN. If they brought back the SR2500 they have the
learning curve behind them, the cost associated with the learning curve,
the
customer acceptance, and the design is proven. If they want to fix some
of
the issues and give it a new name, fine, call it the SR2600!
Rick Muller
SR70

-------------- Original message --------------
front.
PDF
why
and
the TC
registered @
Moose
SR/Moose.
want
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WALTER KLATT

Yukon

Post by WALTER KLATT » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:06 pm

I read between the lines a bit in the specs. They say 190 sq ft for the wing area for the Yukon which works out to a 38 foot span. The Moose is listed at 182 sq ft and a 36 foot span. I figured the extra 2 sq feet on the Moose had to do with the tips. But it could just be the extra length on the new drooped tips (are they a full foot wider?) as Wayne pointed out.

No inside info from me... Wayne's the guy to ask for that...;>))

I did hear talk about this plane here (after it was announced). As I understand it, Darryl finds it easier to downsize an existing design than upsize, as when the Moose was created. So for MAM, the Yukon is just a lighter SR, with mostly existing parts, and a lot of weight removed. They did a similar thing with the UL version of the Rebel, and even the Maverick.

Walter

----- Original Message -----
From: ray.mason@dcsol.com
Date: Tuesday, November 1, 2005 3:51 pm
Subject: Re: Yukon
Hi Walter

Couldn't see on MAM site where it said the wings were 38. Looked 5
times
under specs still couldn't see it :). Got some inside info?

Ray

' 11/1/2005 7:56 AM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

-> I notice that it will have a 38 foot wing span, longer than the
SR/Moose.
Will this enhance floatplane performance? Of course, I would still
want more
than 210 hp. The 2550 gross weight is OK.
->
-> Walter
->
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
-> Date: Tuesday, November 1, 2005 8:39 am
-> Subject: Re: Yukon
->
-> > Don't want to over generalize, but basically a very slightly
-> > shrunk SR2500!
-> > 2550 gross to run on an O-360 or other engines from 180Hp to
210
-> > Hp. 4 true
-> > seats.
-> >
-> > ----- Original Message -----
-> > From: "Jones, Michael" <Michael.Jones@snclavalin.com>
-> > To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:56 AM
-> > Subject: RE: Yukon
-> >
-> >
-> > > hey all
-> > >
-> > > i dont have internet at moment, what is the yukon ??
-> > >
-> > > mike#007
-> > >
-> > > -----Original Message-----
-> > > From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
-> > > Dale Fultz
-> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:53 AM
-> > > To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> > > Subject: Yukon
-> > >
-> > >
-> > > MAM has updated the site with more information on the
Yukon.
-> > Could be
-> > what
-> > > I am looking for in an experimental. Might be interested in
-> > selling my
-> > > project to acquire one of these . If anyone might be
interested
-> > please> e-mail me. Dale Fultz SR-033
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Wayne G. O'Shea

Yukon

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:06 pm

Yep 190 / 5 foot chord = 38 feet Haven't seen them...but pretty sure the
droop tips are 1' plus on each side.

Also confirmed today that the fusleage is no shorter than the Moose/SR2500.
It's the same so this airplane for me would be two seats and a twin mattress
in the back to sleep...mind you that was my plan for the Moose I have locked
away in a marine container as well!

Remember the SR2500 was actually a 3000lb gross airplane. The Yukon is being
lightened up a few places, shorter landing gear etc, Mike said it best
"Looks like a Moose on the Atkins diet"

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "WALTER KLATT" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: Yukon

I read between the lines a bit in the specs. They say 190 sq ft for the
wing area for the Yukon which works out to a 38 foot span. The Moose is
listed at 182 sq ft and a 36 foot span. I figured the extra 2 sq feet on the
Moose had to do with the tips. But it could just be the extra length on the
new drooped tips (are they a full foot wider?) as Wayne pointed out.
No inside info from me... Wayne's the guy to ask for that...;>))

I did hear talk about this plane here (after it was announced). As I
understand it, Darryl finds it easier to downsize an existing design than
upsize, as when the Moose was created. So for MAM, the Yukon is just a
lighter SR, with mostly existing parts, and a lot of weight removed. They
did a similar thing with the UL version of the Rebel, and even the Maverick.
Walter

----- Original Message -----
From: ray.mason@dcsol.com
Date: Tuesday, November 1, 2005 3:51 pm
Subject: Re: Yukon
Hi Walter

Couldn't see on MAM site where it said the wings were 38. Looked 5
times
under specs still couldn't see it :). Got some inside info?

Ray

' 11/1/2005 7:56 AM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

-> I notice that it will have a 38 foot wing span, longer than the
SR/Moose.
Will this enhance floatplane performance? Of course, I would still
want more
than 210 hp. The 2550 gross weight is OK.
->
-> Walter
->
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
-> Date: Tuesday, November 1, 2005 8:39 am
-> Subject: Re: Yukon
->
-> > Don't want to over generalize, but basically a very slightly
-> > shrunk SR2500!
-> > 2550 gross to run on an O-360 or other engines from 180Hp to
210
-> > Hp. 4 true
-> > seats.
-> >
-> > ----- Original Message -----
-> > From: "Jones, Michael" <Michael.Jones@snclavalin.com>
-> > To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:56 AM
-> > Subject: RE: Yukon
-> >
-> >
-> > > hey all
-> > >
-> > > i dont have internet at moment, what is the yukon ??
-> > >
-> > > mike#007
-> > >
-> > > -----Original Message-----
-> > > From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
-> > > Dale Fultz
-> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:53 AM
-> > > To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> > > Subject: Yukon
-> > >
-> > >
-> > > MAM has updated the site with more information on the
Yukon.
-> > Could be
-> > what
-> > > I am looking for in an experimental. Might be interested in
-> > selling my
-> > > project to acquire one of these . If anyone might be
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Hamich Mc

Yukon

Post by Hamich Mc » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:20 pm

Hi,

Have any of you guys been to Osh this year and notice
progress on the Yukon?

Best regards,

Jurgens de Jager
South Africa


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