Moose - General questions

[Scott Aldrich]

Bill,

I am building a fast build Moose in a 22 by 25 foot garage (inside
dimensions). Once the wings are done you can push them to the side in
cradles or as you suggested hang them up out of the way. In my cradles the
wings only take up 3' along one wall.

The fuselage is approximately 20'4" from the tail post (i.e. rudder NOT
installed) to the firewall with no engine. So you would have room to work
for a while. You man need to plan on putting the fuselage diagonally once
you start the firewall forward. From the rudder post to the front of engine
is about 24'1" (again no rudder installed). I can not put it on the
diagonal due to shelves that would interfere with the fin but if you plan
ahead that would work.

The more head room the better. It would be nice to be able to put the
fuselage on the gear and roll it out of the garage as needed. If you get the
fast build it is nice to be able to put it on the gear right away. I don't
have the head room so I made stubby temporary gear with castors.

I heard a rumor, and have not asked anyone at MAM to confirm, that the fast
builds are no longer going to be made with solid rivets? I wouldn't
hesitate to go with all pulled rivet fast build though.

You can build a fast build considerably faster than a complete kit.
However, you can make a fast build slow by making a lot of changes; I'm at
nearly 2800 hours and still going.

I've heard the M14 will run on beer. But in reality I can find no one that
will run anything but 100LL. Everyone predicts dire consequences that the
auto gas will have on the pressure carburetors diaphragm. I plan to run
both 100 and auto gas. I have a spare diaphragm to soak in auto gas and see
what it does to it.

Take care,
Scott
Moose 174


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Wagner
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 3:35 PM
To: rebel-builders-d@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: DIGEST - rebel-builders-d

I have been lurking on the digest list for months now, and I'm getting
ready to build the garage that I will eventually put the Moose kit into.

My problem: I live on a 25-foot wide lot here in Calgary, so the
biggest width I can go is about 23 feet. I gather the moose itself is
24-feet long overall when it's assembled, and of course you want to be
able to work around the thing.

The city will probably only let me build a garage that is 24 feet deep -
but these are outside dimensions.

My first question: can you build a moose in a space that is
approximately 22 feet wide by 23 feet deep? If so, will there be any
floor space left over for the air compressor, drill press, band saw, et
cetera?

One of the things I'm considering is putting in a "loft" above the main
garage floor. That would give me space to put the wings and other parts
while I work on the main fuselage. Would this be useful, or is it not
worth the thousands of dollars that I could otherwise be pouring into
the Moose? My current alternative is to put in a 12-foot ceiling
(instead of 10 feet) and hang the wings from the rafters. Bad idea?

I would appreciate any advice you people may have about this. I plan to
order the kit next summer, when finances permit, and take delivery as
soon as it's ready.

Does anyone think that the quickbuild/solid rivets is not the way to go
if you can afford to do it that way? 3000 hours seems like a long time
... and that's the advertized build time with the "slow build".

I like the idea of the M-14P engine, so it seems that I would be better
off spending the money on the quickbuild (built in Canada, not the
Phillipines!), and saving money on the engine. I heard that the M-14
can run on farm gas, which really makes the decision easier!

Thank-you in advance for you advice!


Bill in Calgary





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