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Rebel - Firewall fairing

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Bob Patterson

Rebel - Firewall fairing

Post by Bob Patterson » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:38 am

Hi Ian !

The problem is the lip at the bottom of the firewall (unless,
as some do, you install the firewall the other way around ..).
Because of the slope of the firewall, the air flows tightly down the
front of it, and runs into that lip, causing a swirl, drag, and
obstructing the clean exit of air from the cowling.

The fix is to smooth the lip, rounding it. Picture a piece of
.020 the full width of the fuselage, extending back about 3 "
behind the firewall, fastened to the belly. It also extends
forward of the firewall by about 5 or 6". Now wrap that
front part up and back until it touches the firewall - and
rivet it there ! This makes a smooth ramp over the sharp
lip, and smooths the airflow. It will definitely lower all
temperatures. On the RV series of aircraft, it also gains
about 10 mph !!! Unfortunately, the speed gain for the Rebel is
barely noticeable.... ;-) :-)

I know it is VERY difficult to add this lip fairing after the
Rebel is finished, but you can clean up large parts of the lip
with lots of careful snipping & trimming, around the engine mounts
and gascolator ....

..... and you can fill in a lot with that metal adhesive tape
that body shops use for holes ! ;-)

......bobp

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On Monday 06 June 2005 10:09 pm, IAN DONALDSON wrote:
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G'day

I read with interest this post regarding firewall fairing.

Would someone please explain in detail how this was done?

Are there any pictures in the archives?


regards & thanks

Ian Donaldson


Hey Neil, One other thing to do is make sure that you have faired the lip
of
the firewall. About 2" up on the firewall gave me almost 15deg f. ya gotta
keep the airflow smooth going out too. >

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Jones, Michael

Rebel - Firewall fairing

Post by Jones, Michael » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:38 am

are there any pics of this on the site bob, i searched for mail and found
nothing
seems to be lack of lots of stuff in pics, as i an doing my firewall stuff
now an going to do tons of pics to post

mike#007

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Hi Ian !

The problem is the lip at the bottom of the firewall (unless,
as some do, you install the firewall the other way around ..).
Because of the slope of the firewall, the air flows tightly down the
front of it, and runs into that lip, causing a swirl, drag, and
obstructing the clean exit of air from the cowling.

The fix is to smooth the lip, rounding it. Picture a piece of
.020 the full width of the fuselage, extending back about 3 "
behind the firewall, fastened to the belly. It also extends
forward of the firewall by about 5 or 6". Now wrap that
front part up and back until it touches the firewall - and
rivet it there ! This makes a smooth ramp over the sharp
lip, and smooths the airflow. It will definitely lower all
temperatures. On the RV series of aircraft, it also gains
about 10 mph !!! Unfortunately, the speed gain for the Rebel is
barely noticeable.... ;-) :-)

I know it is VERY difficult to add this lip fairing after the
Rebel is finished, but you can clean up large parts of the lip
with lots of careful snipping & trimming, around the engine mounts
and gascolator ....

..... and you can fill in a lot with that metal adhesive tape
that body shops use for holes ! ;-)

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 06 June 2005 10:09 pm, IAN DONALDSON wrote:
** Check your subject, does it still reflect the message? **

G'day

I read with interest this post regarding firewall fairing.

Would someone please explain in detail how this was done?

Are there any pictures in the archives?


regards & thanks

Ian Donaldson


Hey Neil, One other thing to do is make sure that you have faired the
lip
of
the firewall. About 2" up on the firewall gave me almost 15deg f. ya
gotta
keep the airflow smooth going out too. >

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IAN DONALDSON

Rebel - Firewall fairing

Post by IAN DONALDSON » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:38 am

G'day Bob


Thanks for your response. I was not at all sure what was meant by "fairing"
but following your description it all makes sense.

It would have been an easy thing to do when I was still building the Rebel,
but as you suggest it will be a little harder with everything in place.
However the next time that I have the cowl off I will see what I can do.


Thanks again and regards


Ian Donaldson




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