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Wayne G. O'Shea

Rebel 0145R

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:40 pm

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This "silver" paint Bob mentions for UV protection is the POLYSPRAY portion
of the Polyfiber system. A very highly aluminum pigmented "paint". This will
provide your UV protection for the fabric and can be left at this stage if
you are leaving your aircraft in natural aluminum or your can paint to match
your paint scheme. Once again you should use the polyfiber paint to complete
the "flexible" covering system. Howards on the other hand were painted (by
Doug Ronan A/C) with the same "dupont"(can't think of the product name but
as used on aircraft by major a/c refurbishers) paint as the rest of his
plane and have held up very well.(very flexible paint and does not crack) We
had some painted masking sheet and folded the sheet in half over a month
later and it did not crack or peel. Much easier to get the colours to match
this way instead of using polyfiber paint on flaperons and then something
else on the aluminum airframe.

Glad I said I won't have much time for this list, up to about 4 1/2 hours
per day now! I know aviation won't cause a divorce or anything but this
computer stuff might!!!!

Blue skies,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Patterson <bob.patterson@canrem.com>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Saturday, January 29, 2000 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

Another VERY important part of all of these chemistry 'systems' is
a good layer of ultraviolet protection !! This usually consists of a
few coats of silver 'paint', or some specially formulated finish that
blocks sunlight from the fabric. Without this protection, the fabric
will disintegrate - crumble to powder - after some time in the sun !!
With it, it can last for the life of the aircraft (or until a new paint
job is desired :-) ).

Sounds like you will have to scrape or cut out a piece of fabric to
see IF it has this protection .... Probably better to recover now, with
the right chemistry combination, if necessary, than to have problems
later !

.....bobp

-----------------------------orig.---------------------------------------
At 08:19 PM 1/29/00 -0500, you wrote:
Hope you didn't mention my name as the reason for concern about what he
used! Aviation community is to small for that, but then again, I imagine
there is probably someone on the list that has already passed on the
questioning of their work to him already!

This is exactly what the ex-owner of the flaperons I recovered was told,
top
coat with any urethane or Durathane paint. I have it in writting in the
ex-owners notes! The rest is history and I still have the evidence!

Ceconite is a trade name for one brand of polyester fabric, but it also
has
a system to follow. It is NOT: to use some certified aircraft glue (for
fabric or wood?) and then a "flexible primer"! Why not follow the
recommended installation procedure for this brand, no different than you
would with the polyfiber (stits) system?

I don't own shares in Polyfiber Corp., so I am definitely not bringing
this
to light for my benefit!

Blue skies,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Arndt <farndt@xcelco.on.ca>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Saturday, January 29, 2000 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

Ok Wayne,
You have me so concerned, and rightfully so that I placed a call to
the
builder of flaperons on 145R.
I no nothing about fabric so tell me what you think.

He said he used the "Ceconite" not sure of spelling? Dacron system,
with
certified aircraft glue and a flexible primer which he said could be
painted
with any urethane paint ??

I also have a local Jodel builder coming to inspect them and if needed
he
will help to redo properly..

Thanks for the advice..
I will take what ever action is needed to have a safe aircraft.

Frank




----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne G. O'Shea <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

the
fabric
try
to
shows
on
take
a
freezing
and
anything
were
some
later
simply
be
sure strip
(and
and
Steve
you
where,
The
were
installer.
If
bare
anywhere.)
IF
this
not
pay
followed
As
far
the
one
hanger
Rebel,
but about
fun,
&
at kit
Rebel -
which
were
This
PLEASE this
realized
Frank engines
--
-
known.
of
quite resource
which
it
ideas
probably
a
EA-81)
not
and
I
not
after.
the
is
JPG's
of performance
experience.
opinions
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Frank Arndt

Rebel 0145R

Post by Frank Arndt » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:40 pm

Wayne & Bob
I think you have spent enough of your own time educating me, and I sure
don't want to see anyone get divorced (although you would have more time for
flying!! <big grin>) So I think to be safe, I will order the system you
recommended and have my local Jodel buddy take me through the steps (he's
quite a perfectionist which is good). And Wayne, don't worry, I just asked
him for my own records, I was honest and told him I knew nothing about
fabric and I wanted to know what system was used.

See, you guy's may have saved a life and not even known it!!

Also the "turning in the threads" issue with the controls at full extremes
and the drain holes forward of the bulkheads in the fuselage are also items
that I was aware of, but was not sure how everyone handled them. More work
to do on 145R!!

Thanks a bunch guys, that's what makes this list so valuable.

Frank





----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne G. O'Shea <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

This "silver" paint Bob mentions for UV protection is the POLYSPRAY
portion
of the Polyfiber system. A very highly aluminum pigmented "paint". This
will
provide your UV protection for the fabric and can be left at this stage if
you are leaving your aircraft in natural aluminum or your can paint to
match
your paint scheme. Once again you should use the polyfiber paint to
complete
the "flexible" covering system. Howards on the other hand were painted (by
Doug Ronan A/C) with the same "dupont"(can't think of the product name but
as used on aircraft by major a/c refurbishers) paint as the rest of his
plane and have held up very well.(very flexible paint and does not crack)
We
had some painted masking sheet and folded the sheet in half over a month
later and it did not crack or peel. Much easier to get the colours to
match
this way instead of using polyfiber paint on flaperons and then something
else on the aluminum airframe.

Glad I said I won't have much time for this list, up to about 4 1/2 hours
per day now! I know aviation won't cause a divorce or anything but this
computer stuff might!!!!

Blue skies,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Patterson <bob.patterson@canrem.com>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Saturday, January 29, 2000 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

Another VERY important part of all of these chemistry 'systems' is
a good layer of ultraviolet protection !! This usually consists of a
few coats of silver 'paint', or some specially formulated finish that
blocks sunlight from the fabric. Without this protection, the fabric
will disintegrate - crumble to powder - after some time in the sun !!
With it, it can last for the life of the aircraft (or until a new paint
job is desired :-) ).

Sounds like you will have to scrape or cut out a piece of fabric to
see IF it has this protection .... Probably better to recover now, with
the right chemistry combination, if necessary, than to have problems
later !

.....bobp

-----------------------------orig.---------------------------------------
At 08:19 PM 1/29/00 -0500, you wrote:
Hope you didn't mention my name as the reason for concern about what he
used! Aviation community is to small for that, but then again, I imagine
there is probably someone on the list that has already passed on the
questioning of their work to him already!

This is exactly what the ex-owner of the flaperons I recovered was told,
top
coat with any urethane or Durathane paint. I have it in writting in the
ex-owners notes! The rest is history and I still have the evidence!

Ceconite is a trade name for one brand of polyester fabric, but it also
has
a system to follow. It is NOT: to use some certified aircraft glue (for
fabric or wood?) and then a "flexible primer"! Why not follow the
recommended installation procedure for this brand, no different than you
would with the polyfiber (stits) system?

I don't own shares in Polyfiber Corp., so I am definitely not bringing
this
to light for my benefit!

Blue skies,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Arndt <farndt@xcelco.on.ca>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Saturday, January 29, 2000 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

the
with
painted
needed
he
chemical
the
the
fabric
try
"paint"
shows
take
freezing
anything were
meet
later
ever
be
case
make
(and
kit
and
Steve
where
you
The
were
installer.
bare
anywhere.)
this
not
pay
followed
(thanks)
As
far
built
one
Rebel,
look,
competition
that
fun,
here
&
partly-built
Rebel -
which
were
This
like
realized
!
--
-
west
of
was
which
ideas
probably
EA-81
a
EA-81)
was
and
I
my
not
the
mph.
is
JPG's
experience.
opinions
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between builders and owners of Murphy Rebel aircraft.
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Wayne G. O'Shea

Rebel 0145R

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:40 pm

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I was just kidding Frank! If my wife has put up with my idiosyncrasies for
going on 18 years (plus all those years in highschool), allowed me to put in
a private runway, then build a "little" hanger and all before I built her a
house!(actually she did as much work building the house as I did, she shoots
a pretty mean transit!) I don't think she is any hurry to leave me! She has
also had a pilots license for the last 6 years!(kind of the "if you can't
beat'm, join'm senerio) and flys a Zenair CH-701 (currently on "strap on"
skis I built for her!)

Feel free to ask for advice when you need it!

Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca



-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Arndt <farndt@xcelco.on.ca>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Sunday, January 30, 2000 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

Wayne & Bob
I think you have spent enough of your own time educating me, and I sure
don't want to see anyone get divorced (although you would have more time
for
flying!! <big grin>) So I think to be safe, I will order the system you
recommended and have my local Jodel buddy take me through the steps (he's
quite a perfectionist which is good). And Wayne, don't worry, I just asked
him for my own records, I was honest and told him I knew nothing about
fabric and I wanted to know what system was used.

See, you guy's may have saved a life and not even known it!!

Also the "turning in the threads" issue with the controls at full extremes
and the drain holes forward of the bulkheads in the fuselage are also items
that I was aware of, but was not sure how everyone handled them. More work
to do on 145R!!

Thanks a bunch guys, that's what makes this list so valuable.

Frank





----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne G. O'Shea <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

This "silver" paint Bob mentions for UV protection is the POLYSPRAY
portion
of the Polyfiber system. A very highly aluminum pigmented "paint". This
will
provide your UV protection for the fabric and can be left at this stage
if
you are leaving your aircraft in natural aluminum or your can paint to
match
your paint scheme. Once again you should use the polyfiber paint to
complete
the "flexible" covering system. Howards on the other hand were painted
(by
Doug Ronan A/C) with the same "dupont"(can't think of the product name
but
as used on aircraft by major a/c refurbishers) paint as the rest of his
plane and have held up very well.(very flexible paint and does not crack)
We
had some painted masking sheet and folded the sheet in half over a month
later and it did not crack or peel. Much easier to get the colours to
match
this way instead of using polyfiber paint on flaperons and then something
else on the aluminum airframe.

Glad I said I won't have much time for this list, up to about 4 1/2
hours
per day now! I know aviation won't cause a divorce or anything but this
computer stuff might!!!!

Blue skies,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Patterson <bob.patterson@canrem.com>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Saturday, January 29, 2000 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

Another VERY important part of all of these chemistry 'systems' is
a good layer of ultraviolet protection !! This usually consists of a
few coats of silver 'paint', or some specially formulated finish that
blocks sunlight from the fabric. Without this protection, the fabric
will disintegrate - crumble to powder - after some time in the sun !!
With it, it can last for the life of the aircraft (or until a new paint
job is desired :-) ).

Sounds like you will have to scrape or cut out a piece of fabric to
see IF it has this protection .... Probably better to recover now, with
the right chemistry combination, if necessary, than to have problems
later !

.....bobp
-----------------------------orig.---------------------------------------
At 08:19 PM 1/29/00 -0500, you wrote:
imagine
told,
top
has
you
this
to
the
with
needed
chemical
the
the
try
"paint"
shows
did
freezing
to
we
meet
later
ever
be
case
make
does
System
kit
Steve
where
The
They
installer.
perfectly
anywhere.)
this
and
not
pay
(thanks)
far
built
Rebel,
look,
competition
confidence
that
the
have
here
&
partly-built
Rebel -
were
like
of
!
give
-
--
[/quote]myself
west
of
[/quote]90%
was
which
ideas
probably
EA-81
a
EA-81)
was
and
I
my
[/quote]I'm
not
[/quote]am
the
mph.
[/quote]there
is
JPG's
experience.
opinions
*----------------------------------------------------*
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Frank Arndt

Rebel 0145R

Post by Frank Arndt » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:40 pm

We are definitely going to have to meet.
My father is in the midst of selling his plane and he is looking for a
701, he loves the performance!. I am going down to Florida for a few weeks
and will visit with him there for a day or two. I may call upon you on a
personal note about some 701 questions on his behalf if you don't mind, (or
maybe your wife would be the one to ask). He is also one of these runway in
the backyard guys, which is lucky for me as there is a hanger just waiting
for 145R. The EA81 powered Karatoo I mentioned in earlier emails is actually
his, and with the both of us and a full tank of fuel, his 800ft long strip
gets really short, I usually close my eye's and open them when we are at
500ft. The whole reason I started with 145R is so I could enjoy some short
hops around the patch with Dad. I got him interested in flying years ago and
left him hanging, so now it's time to have some fun again.

I am taking my notebook down to Florida with me so I won't loose touch.
I'm sure he will have some questions..

Frank



----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne G. O'Shea <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

I was just kidding Frank! If my wife has put up with my idiosyncrasies for
going on 18 years (plus all those years in highschool), allowed me to put
in
a private runway, then build a "little" hanger and all before I built her
a
house!(actually she did as much work building the house as I did, she
shoots
a pretty mean transit!) I don't think she is any hurry to leave me! She
has
also had a pilots license for the last 6 years!(kind of the "if you can't
beat'm, join'm senerio) and flys a Zenair CH-701 (currently on "strap on"
skis I built for her!)

Feel free to ask for advice when you need it!

Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca



-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Arndt <farndt@xcelco.on.ca>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Sunday, January 30, 2000 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

Wayne & Bob
I think you have spent enough of your own time educating me, and I
sure
don't want to see anyone get divorced (although you would have more time
for
flying!! <big grin>) So I think to be safe, I will order the system you
recommended and have my local Jodel buddy take me through the steps (he's
quite a perfectionist which is good). And Wayne, don't worry, I just
asked
him for my own records, I was honest and told him I knew nothing about
fabric and I wanted to know what system was used.

See, you guy's may have saved a life and not even known it!!

Also the "turning in the threads" issue with the controls at full
extremes
and the drain holes forward of the bulkheads in the fuselage are also
items
that I was aware of, but was not sure how everyone handled them. More
work
to do on 145R!!

Thanks a bunch guys, that's what makes this list so valuable.

Frank





----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne G. O'Shea <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

This "silver" paint Bob mentions for UV protection is the POLYSPRAY
portion
of the Polyfiber system. A very highly aluminum pigmented "paint". This
will
provide your UV protection for the fabric and can be left at this stage
if
you are leaving your aircraft in natural aluminum or your can paint to
match
your paint scheme. Once again you should use the polyfiber paint to
complete
the "flexible" covering system. Howards on the other hand were painted
(by
Doug Ronan A/C) with the same "dupont"(can't think of the product name
but
as used on aircraft by major a/c refurbishers) paint as the rest of his
plane and have held up very well.(very flexible paint and does not
crack)
We
had some painted masking sheet and folded the sheet in half over a
month
later and it did not crack or peel. Much easier to get the colours to
match
this way instead of using polyfiber paint on flaperons and then
something
else on the aluminum airframe.

Glad I said I won't have much time for this list, up to about 4 1/2
hours
per day now! I know aviation won't cause a divorce or anything but this
computer stuff might!!!!

Blue skies,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Patterson <bob.patterson@canrem.com>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Saturday, January 29, 2000 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

paint
to
with
-----------------------------orig.---------------------------------------
he
imagine
told,
top
the
also
has
(for
you
bringing
this
to
the
system,
with
needed
chemical
why
the
Generally
the
different
the
will
try
"paint"
now,
shows
did
freezing
to
we
meet
later
it
ever
be
case
make
somewhere
does
System
kit
Steve
where
know
fabric.
The
They
installer.
perfectly
anywhere.)
of
this
the
and
not
(read
pay
(thanks)
so
far
built
locked
Rebel,
look,
was
competition
confidence
that
the
have
here
&
partly-built
Rebel -
[/quote]tanks
[/quote]Rebels
were
[/quote]!!!
like
[/quote]!!
of
[/quote]help
!
give
[/quote]smaller
-
--
[/quote]myself
west
of
[/quote]90%
was
[/quote][/quote]saftey,
which
[/quote][/quote]your
ideas
probably
EA-81
a
[/quote][/quote]another
[/quote][/quote]airframe
was
[/quote][/quote]bad
and
[/quote][/quote]finished
my
[/quote][/quote]safety
[/quote]I'm
not
[/quote]am
[/quote][/quote]buy
the
mph.
[/quote]there
is
JPG's
experience.
opinions
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T L McClary

Rebel 0145R

Post by T L McClary » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:40 pm

Hey Wayne, does your wife have a sister and if so do the traits run in
the family?

Terry

On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:08:52 -0500 "Wayne G. O'Shea"
<oifa@irishfield.on.ca> writes:
I was just kidding Frank! If my wife has put up with my
idiosyncrasies for
going on 18 years (plus all those years in highschool), allowed me
to put in
a private runway, then build a "little" hanger and all before I
built her a
house!(actually she did as much work building the house as I did,
she shoots
a pretty mean transit!) I don't think she is any hurry to leave me!
She has
also had a pilots license for the last 6 years!(kind of the "if you
can't
beat'm, join'm senerio) and flys a Zenair CH-701 (currently on
"strap on"
skis I built for her!)

Feel free to ask for advice when you need it!

Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca



-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Arndt <farndt@xcelco.on.ca>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Sunday, January 30, 2000 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

Wayne & Bob
I think you have spent enough of your own time educating me, and
I sure
don't want to see anyone get divorced (although you would have more
time
for
flying!! <big grin>) So I think to be safe, I will order the system
you
recommended and have my local Jodel buddy take me through the steps
(he's
quite a perfectionist which is good). And Wayne, don't worry, I
just asked
him for my own records, I was honest and told him I knew nothing
about
fabric and I wanted to know what system was used.

See, you guy's may have saved a life and not even known it!!

Also the "turning in the threads" issue with the controls at full
extremes
and the drain holes forward of the bulkheads in the fuselage are
also items
that I was aware of, but was not sure how everyone handled them.
More work
to do on 145R!!

Thanks a bunch guys, that's what makes this list so valuable.

Frank





----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne G. O'Shea <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

This "silver" paint Bob mentions for UV protection is the
POLYSPRAY
portion
of the Polyfiber system. A very highly aluminum pigmented
"paint". This
will
provide your UV protection for the fabric and can be left at this
stage
if
you are leaving your aircraft in natural aluminum or your can
paint to
match
your paint scheme. Once again you should use the polyfiber paint
to
complete
the "flexible" covering system. Howards on the other hand were
painted
(by
Doug Ronan A/C) with the same "dupont"(can't think of the product
name
but
as used on aircraft by major a/c refurbishers) paint as the rest
of his
plane and have held up very well.(very flexible paint and does
not crack)
We
had some painted masking sheet and folded the sheet in half over
a month
later and it did not crack or peel. Much easier to get the
colours to
match
this way instead of using polyfiber paint on flaperons and then
something
else on the aluminum airframe.

Glad I said I won't have much time for this list, up to about 4
1/2
hours
per day now! I know aviation won't cause a divorce or anything
but this
computer stuff might!!!!

Blue skies,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Patterson <bob.patterson@canrem.com>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Saturday, January 29, 2000 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

'systems' is
of a
that
fabric
sun !!
new paint
fabric to
now, with
problems
.....bobp

-----------------------------orig.--------------------------------------
-
what he
I
imagine
on the
was
told,
top
writting in the
evidence!
it also
has
glue (for
the
than
you
bringing
this
a call
to
the
system,
with
could be
and if
needed
aircraft.
a
chemical
exactly why
the
the "T".
Generally
the
different
on, the
said, I will
try
the
"paint"
have now,
shows
for. I
did
below
freezing
is not
to
there is
people
we
around to
meet
this at a
later
does it
will
ever
be
just in
case
failing.
Bob to
make
somewhere
If it
does
Polyfiber
System
with the
kit
repeat the
Steve
done
where
don't know
fabric.
The
Plastithane.
They
fabric
installer.
perfectly
adhesion
anywhere.)
samples of
this
With the
ball
and
not
trust (read
pay
they
there,
(thanks)
at me, so
far
previously
built
well locked
like a
Rebel,
smooth
look,
interior was
competition
confidence
to do
that
here in
the
and
have
posting
here
&
partly-built
finished'
Rebel -
fuel tanks
Some Rebels
were
area !!!
spars !
there
like
builders
cheap !!
a lot
of
to help
!
can
give
smaller
!! :-)
.....bobp
--------------------------------orig.-------------------------------
-
--
[/quote]make
myself
[/quote]3hrs
west
of
[/quote]Orangeville, Ont
90%
[/quote]workmanship
was
[/quote]great
[/quote]saftey,
which
[/quote]all your
ideas
[/quote]would
probably
[/quote]Subaru
EA-81
a
[/quote]another
[/quote]airframe
was
[/quote]too bad
and
[/quote]finished
my
[/quote]145R is
[/quote]safety
[/quote]solo and
I'm
not
[/quote]what I
am
[/quote]quite buy
the
[/quote]at 80
mph.
[/quote]if
there
is
[/quote]digital
JPG's
[/quote]my
experience.
[/quote]your
opinions
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Rebel 0145R

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:40 pm

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Terry,

Yes my wife has 2 sisters (both younger)! One just recently got married and
the other one is as useless as t--- on a bull! Leah says she could never
leave me, as it took too long to get me trained to this stage! She sure
isn't going to start a new training course for someone else, because she
doesn't think she will ever even get me programmed properly!!!!! "Better
the devil you know, than the devil you don't!!!!!" And she sure knows where
all our assets are!!!!(in the hanger) Sorry!!!!

Wayne


-----Original Message-----
From: T L McClary <tlmcclary@juno.com>
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Sunday, January 30, 2000 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

Hey Wayne, does your wife have a sister and if so do the traits run in
the family?

Terry

On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:08:52 -0500 "Wayne G. O'Shea"
<oifa@irishfield.on.ca> writes:
I was just kidding Frank! If my wife has put up with my
idiosyncrasies for
going on 18 years (plus all those years in highschool), allowed me
to put in
a private runway, then build a "little" hanger and all before I
built her a
house!(actually she did as much work building the house as I did,
she shoots
a pretty mean transit!) I don't think she is any hurry to leave me!
She has
also had a pilots license for the last 6 years!(kind of the "if you
can't
beat'm, join'm senerio) and flys a Zenair CH-701 (currently on
"strap on"
skis I built for her!)

Feel free to ask for advice when you need it!

Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca



-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Arndt <farndt@xcelco.on.ca>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Sunday, January 30, 2000 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

Wayne & Bob
I think you have spent enough of your own time educating me, and
I sure
don't want to see anyone get divorced (although you would have more
time
for
flying!! <big grin>) So I think to be safe, I will order the system
you
recommended and have my local Jodel buddy take me through the steps
(he's
quite a perfectionist which is good). And Wayne, don't worry, I
just asked
him for my own records, I was honest and told him I knew nothing
about
fabric and I wanted to know what system was used.

See, you guy's may have saved a life and not even known it!!

Also the "turning in the threads" issue with the controls at full
extremes
and the drain holes forward of the bulkheads in the fuselage are
also items
that I was aware of, but was not sure how everyone handled them.
More work
to do on 145R!!

Thanks a bunch guys, that's what makes this list so valuable.

Frank





----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne G. O'Shea <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

POLYSPRAY
portion
"paint". This
will
stage
if
paint to
match
to
complete
painted
(by
name
but
of his
not crack)
We
a month
colours to
match
something
1/2
hours
but this
'systems' is
of a
that
fabric
sun !!
new paint
fabric to
now, with
problems
.....bobp

-----------------------------orig.--------------------------------------
-
what he
I
imagine
on the
was
told,
writting in the
evidence!
it also
glue (for
the
than
you
bringing
a call
to
system,
could be
and if
needed
aircraft.
a
chemical
exactly why
the "T".
Generally
the
different
on, the
said, I will
the
"paint"
have now,
for. I
did
below
is not
to
there is
people
we
around to
meet
this at a
does it
will
ever
just in
case
failing.
Bob to
make
somewhere
If it
does
Polyfiber
System
with the
kit
repeat the
done
where
don't know
fabric.
Plastithane.
They
fabric
perfectly
adhesion
samples of
With the
ball
and
trust (read
they
there,
(thanks)
at me, so
far
previously
built
well locked
like a
Rebel,
smooth
look,
interior was
competition
confidence
to do
that
here in
the
and
have
posting
here
&
partly-built
finished'
Rebel -
fuel tanks
Some Rebels
were
area !!!
spars !
there
like
builders
cheap !!
a lot
of
to help
!
can
give
smaller
!! :-)
.....bobp
--------------------------------orig.-------------------------------
-
--
[/quote]make
myself
[/quote]3hrs
west
of
[/quote]Orangeville, Ont
90%
[/quote]workmanship
was
[/quote]great
[/quote]saftey,
which
[/quote]all your
ideas
[/quote]would
probably
[/quote]Subaru
EA-81
a
[/quote]another
[/quote]airframe
was
[/quote]too bad
and
[/quote]finished
my
[/quote]145R is
[/quote]safety
[/quote]solo and
I'm
not
[/quote]what I
am
[/quote]quite buy
the
[/quote]at 80
mph.
[/quote]if
there
is
[/quote]digital
JPG's
[/quote]my
experience.
[/quote]your
opinions
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T L McClary

Rebel 0145R

Post by T L McClary » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:40 pm

Never pursue another man's wife, but an available sister is another
story.

(Hope you enjoyed the intended humor)

Terry

On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:40:22 -0500 "Wayne G. O'Shea"
<oifa@irishfield.on.ca> writes:
Terry,

Yes my wife has 2 sisters (both younger)! One just recently got
married and
the other one is as useless as t--- on a bull! Leah says she could
never
leave me, as it took too long to get me trained to this stage! She
sure
isn't going to start a new training course for someone else, because
she
doesn't think she will ever even get me programmed properly!!!!!
"Better
the devil you know, than the devil you don't!!!!!" And she sure
knows where
all our assets are!!!!(in the hanger) Sorry!!!!

Wayne


-----Original Message-----
From: T L McClary <tlmcclary@juno.com>
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Sunday, January 30, 2000 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

Hey Wayne, does your wife have a sister and if so do the traits run
in
the family?

Terry

On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:08:52 -0500 "Wayne G. O'Shea"
<oifa@irishfield.on.ca> writes:
I was just kidding Frank! If my wife has put up with my
idiosyncrasies for
going on 18 years (plus all those years in highschool), allowed
me
to put in
a private runway, then build a "little" hanger and all before I
built her a
house!(actually she did as much work building the house as I did,
she shoots
a pretty mean transit!) I don't think she is any hurry to leave
me!
She has
also had a pilots license for the last 6 years!(kind of the "if
you
can't
beat'm, join'm senerio) and flys a Zenair CH-701 (currently on
"strap on"
skis I built for her!)

Feel free to ask for advice when you need it!

Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca



-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Arndt <farndt@xcelco.on.ca>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Sunday, January 30, 2000 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: Rebel 0145R

and
I sure
more
time
for
system
you
steps
(he's just asked about
full
extremes also items More work POLYSPRAY "paint". This
this
stage
if paint to
paint
to painted
(by
product
name
but
rest
of his not crack)
over
a month colours to
then
something
4
1/2
hours but this 'systems' is
consists
of a
finish
that fabric
the
sun !! new paint fabric to
recover
now, with problems .....bobp
-----------------------------orig.-------------------------------------
-
-
about
what he
again,
I
imagine
passed
on the
recovered
was
told, writting in the evidence!
but
it also
aircraft
glue (for
follow
the
different
than
you
not
bringing
placed
a call
to
Dacron
system, could be and if aircraft.
it's
a exactly why the "T". Generally
using
different
fabric
on, the said, I will
how
the have now,
looking
for. I
did below
this
is not
to there is
those
people
we around to this at a
or
does it
it
will just in failing.
as
Bob to
make
pinch
somewhere
them!
If it
does
Polyfiber
System
with the
kit
repeat the
were
done
where
don't know
the
fabric.
Plastithane.
They
fabric
leaving
perfectly
adhesion
samples of
have.
With the
in a
ball
and
trust (read
that
they
<murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
there,
(thanks)
[/quote]them
at me, so
previously
built
well locked
[/quote]look
like a
smooth
look,
interior was
[/quote]a
competition
[/quote]of
confidence
[/quote]able
to do
that
[/quote]<murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
here in
the
[/quote][/quote]cheaply
and
have
[/quote][/quote]for
posting
here
[/quote][/quote]a
partly-built
finished'
Rebel -
fuel tanks
Some Rebels
were
[/quote][/quote]this
area !!!
[/quote][/quote]main
spars !
[/quote][/quote]out
there
like
builders
[/quote][/quote]selling
cheap !!
[/quote][/quote]involve
a lot
of
[/quote][/quote]pleased
to help
!
[/quote][/quote]who
can
give
[/quote][/quote]with
smaller
[/quote][/quote]flying
!! :-)
.....bobp
--------------------------------orig.-------------------------------
-
[/quote]make
myself
[/quote][/quote][/quote](about
3hrs
west
[/quote]Orangeville, Ont
90%
[/quote]workmanship
was
[/quote][/quote][/quote]been a
great
[/quote][/quote][/quote]on
saftey,
[/quote][/quote][/quote]absorbing
all your
[/quote][/quote][/quote]choice
would
[/quote][/quote][/quote]the
Subaru
EA-81
[/quote][/quote][/quote](with
another
[/quote][/quote][/quote]the
airframe
was
[/quote][/quote][/quote]not
too bad
[/quote][/quote][/quote]almost
finished
my
[/quote][/quote][/quote]do.
145R is
[/quote][/quote][/quote]the
safety
[/quote]solo and
I'm
not
[/quote][/quote][/quote]is
what I
am
[/quote][/quote][/quote]don't
quite buy
[/quote][/quote][/quote]along
at 80
mph.
[/quote][/quote][/quote]and
[quote]if
there
[quote][quote]is
[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]anyone
[quote][quote]out
[quote][quote]there trying to do something similar I have lots
[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]of
[quote][quote]digital
[quote][quote]JPG's
[quote][quote][quote]of
[quote][quote][quote][quote]145R,
[quote][quote]mostly the engine installation. Also I will share
[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]all
[quote][quote]my
[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]performance
[quote][quote][quote]data
[quote][quote][quote](good or bad) so anyone interested will learn from
[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]my
[quote][quote][quote][quote]experience.
[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]
Special thanks to Bob Patterson and Dave Bangle
[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]for
[quote][quote]your
[quote][quote]opinions
[quote][quote][quote]up
[quote][quote][quote][quote]front
[quote][quote]and honest.

Frank



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The Murphy Rebel Builders List is for the discussion
between builders and owners of Murphy Rebel aircraft.
Archives located at:
http://www.dcsol.com/murphy-rebel/lists/default.htm
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The Murphy Rebel Builders List is for the discussion
between builders and owners of Murphy Rebel aircraft.
Archives located at:
http://www.dcsol.com/murphy-rebel/lists/default.htm
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The Murphy Rebel Builders List is for the discussion
between builders and owners of Murphy Rebel aircraft.
Archives located at:
http://www.dcsol.com/murphy-rebel/lists/default.htm
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The Murphy Rebel Builders List is for the discussion
between builders and owners of Murphy Rebel aircraft.
Archives located at:
http://www.dcsol.com/murphy-rebel/lists/default.htm
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The Murphy Rebel Builders List is for the discussion
between builders and owners of Murphy Rebel aircraft.
Archives located at:
http://www.dcsol.com/murphy-rebel/lists/default.htm
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