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ray.mason

Amphib main gear

Post by ray.mason » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:27 am

I have the old style pucks (called rebound Disk by MAM) on my Amphib landing
gear and wasn't happy with the shock absorbing preformance of them. I bought
a set of the new bigger style ones from MAM (total cost 288.70 ouch)which
they short shipped 2 and went to install them. After taking the old ones off
something wasn't quite right and it seems like I need part # FL 265 (spacer).
Can anyone post a pic of the parts list and diagram for the landing gear or
email me direct. I started taking the other side apart and found that the
shock arm was siezed, no wonder I wasn't getting any shock absobtion! After a
few good bangs on a wood stick it still seized and it looks like I might have
to cut the bolts head off to get them out unless someone has a better
suggestion. Also I heard that MAM was providing these pucks for free if you
had the old style, can anyone confirm this?

Ray




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Amphib main gear

Post by Rebflyer » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:27 am

HI Ray,
I had the same old style rebound pucks in my 1800's and after 3 yrs of
replacing the ones that shifted out of place I ordered the new ones. FL/260.
NOT free. I did use the spacers between the disc's, but not on the end's. I
have 6 or 7 landings on the new style with no shifting and they do feel
slightly better on the ground. I did preload the system with that stack up too.
Speaking of stack up's, we now have about 5" of snow on the ground as of
this am with more to come. This is after 3 weeks of 60f+ weather with an 83
degree stuck in a week ago.
SIGH, my zipcode is still Michigan.
Curt N97MR




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Wayne G. O'Shea

Amphib main gear

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:27 am

Better you than me Curt !!! LOL I"ve got to haul an airplane 60 miles to
paint this afternoon! We've had heavy rain for two days, but luckily (till I
get that plane loaded anyhow) it's stayed warm enough to keep it liquid.
Calling for snow late this afternoon and I can't drop the plane off until
7:30pm %(*$^^(!!

As for the gear rubbers......if anyone doesn't need those old ones anymore
I'm more than willing to take what you have off your hands. I like the old
rubbers in combination with the Bellville washers I use to retain them and
add to the shock load value. Not sure yet what my prebuilts have in them as
I can't pull the wheel out far enough to look at them sitting in the crate
holders. MAM plumbed them cylinder to cylinder, with fluid in the lines so
they are hydraulically locked in position..along with the brake caliper
jammed against the brake line retainer strip cause it's in the wrong
place... amongst a few other boo boos... like bottom skin not clearanced in
the right place so the trailing arms can come down etc. Going to be a bit
more work to get these onto an aircraft than I thought, but not as much as
having to build from scratch :O)!

Cheers,
Wayne O'Shea
1516 Alvin Williams Rd
Penetang, Ontario
L9M-2C1


----- Original Message -----
From: <Rebflyer@aol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Amphib main gear

HI Ray,
I had the same old style rebound pucks in my 1800's and after 3 yrs of
replacing the ones that shifted out of place I ordered the new ones.
FL/260.
NOT free. I did use the spacers between the disc's, but not on the end's.
I
have 6 or 7 landings on the new style with no shifting and they do feel
slightly better on the ground. I did preload the system with that stack
up too.
Speaking of stack up's, we now have about 5" of snow on the ground as
of
this am with more to come. This is after 3 weeks of 60f+ weather with an
83
degree stuck in a week ago.
SIGH, my zipcode is still Michigan.
Curt N97MR




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Walter Klatt

Amphib main gear

Post by Walter Klatt » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:27 am

Have to rub it in when I can, but went to the lake yesterday, and
it was like mid summer with shorts, tee shirt and all my vents
open in the plane to keep cool. Temps up the valley at the Hope
airport, which is not far from Harrison Lake hit 28 C/82 F
yesterday. On the way home, though, had to skirt around a mild
thunderstorm, and my wife was with me, so she wasn't too happy
with that.

I am using the big blue pucks which I switched to before I even
flew on my amphibs. I think these were the Elite nose gear ones.
I believe they are the same dimension as the new yellow ones, but
not sure about the stiffness. Mine are pretty stiff, but that's
how I like them, with no chance of bottoming out.

Walter
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:08 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Amphib main gear


Better you than me Curt !!! LOL I"ve got to haul an
airplane 60 miles to
paint this afternoon! We've had heavy rain for two
days, but luckily (till I
get that plane loaded anyhow) it's stayed warm enough
to keep it liquid.
Calling for snow late this afternoon and I can't drop
the plane off until
7:30pm %(*$^^(!!

As for the gear rubbers......if anyone doesn't need
those old ones anymore
I'm more than willing to take what you have off your
hands. I like the old
rubbers in combination with the Bellville washers I
use to retain them and
add to the shock load value. Not sure yet what my
prebuilts have in them as
I can't pull the wheel out far enough to look at them
sitting in the crate
holders. MAM plumbed them cylinder to cylinder, with
fluid in the lines so
they are hydraulically locked in position..along with
the brake caliper
jammed against the brake line retainer strip cause
it's in the wrong
place... amongst a few other boo boos... like bottom
skin not clearanced in
the right place so the trailing arms can come down
etc. Going to be a bit
more work to get these onto an aircraft than I
thought, but not as much as
having to build from scratch :O)!

Cheers,
Wayne O'Shea
1516 Alvin Williams Rd
Penetang, Ontario
L9M-2C1


----- Original Message -----
From: <Rebflyer@aol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Amphib main gear

HI Ray,
I had the same old style rebound pucks in my
1800's and after 3 yrs of
replacing the ones that shifted out of place I
ordered the new ones.
FL/260.
NOT free. I did use the spacers between the disc's,
but not on the end's.
I
have 6 or 7 landings on the new style with no
shifting and they do feel
slightly better on the ground. I did preload the
system with that stack
up too.
Speaking of stack up's, we now have about 5" of
snow on the ground as
of
this am with more to come. This is after 3 weeks of
60f+ weather with an
83
degree stuck in a week ago.
SIGH, my zipcode is still Michigan.
Curt N97MR




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Wayne G. O'Shea

Amphib main gear

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:27 am

Well Walter all that means is snow for you next week!!! We were 28*C last
Wednesday (after two+ weeks of sunshine) and sweating working in the hanger.
Back to reality and real April weather now!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 12:33 PM
Subject: RE: Amphib main gear

Have to rub it in when I can, but went to the lake yesterday, and
it was like mid summer with shorts, tee shirt and all my vents
open in the plane to keep cool. Temps up the valley at the Hope
airport, which is not far from Harrison Lake hit 28 C/82 F
yesterday. On the way home, though, had to skirt around a mild
thunderstorm, and my wife was with me, so she wasn't too happy
with that.

I am using the big blue pucks which I switched to before I even
flew on my amphibs. I think these were the Elite nose gear ones.
I believe they are the same dimension as the new yellow ones, but
not sure about the stiffness. Mine are pretty stiff, but that's
how I like them, with no chance of bottoming out.

Walter
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:08 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Amphib main gear


Better you than me Curt !!! LOL I"ve got to haul an
airplane 60 miles to
paint this afternoon! We've had heavy rain for two
days, but luckily (till I
get that plane loaded anyhow) it's stayed warm enough
to keep it liquid.
Calling for snow late this afternoon and I can't drop
the plane off until
7:30pm %(*$^^(!!

As for the gear rubbers......if anyone doesn't need
those old ones anymore
I'm more than willing to take what you have off your
hands. I like the old
rubbers in combination with the Bellville washers I
use to retain them and
add to the shock load value. Not sure yet what my
prebuilts have in them as
I can't pull the wheel out far enough to look at them
sitting in the crate
holders. MAM plumbed them cylinder to cylinder, with
fluid in the lines so
they are hydraulically locked in position..along with
the brake caliper
jammed against the brake line retainer strip cause
it's in the wrong
place... amongst a few other boo boos... like bottom
skin not clearanced in
the right place so the trailing arms can come down
etc. Going to be a bit
more work to get these onto an aircraft than I
thought, but not as much as
having to build from scratch :O)!

Cheers,
Wayne O'Shea
1516 Alvin Williams Rd
Penetang, Ontario
L9M-2C1


----- Original Message -----
From: <Rebflyer@aol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Amphib main gear

HI Ray,
I had the same old style rebound pucks in my
1800's and after 3 yrs of
replacing the ones that shifted out of place I
ordered the new ones.
FL/260.
NOT free. I did use the spacers between the disc's,
but not on the end's.
I
have 6 or 7 landings on the new style with no
shifting and they do feel
slightly better on the ground. I did preload the
system with that stack
up too.
Speaking of stack up's, we now have about 5" of
snow on the ground as
of
this am with more to come. This is after 3 weeks of
60f+ weather with an
83
degree stuck in a week ago.
SIGH, my zipcode is still Michigan.
Curt N97MR




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Walter Klatt

Amphib main gear

Post by Walter Klatt » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:27 am

Yeah, I know the feeling. We had a ridiculously warm Feb here,
but then back to winter at the end of Mar and first half of Apr.
But I'll take it anytime we get it. Heading out right now for
some more flying.

Walter
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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:38 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Amphib main gear


Well Walter all that means is snow for you next
week!!! We were 28*C last
Wednesday (after two+ weeks of sunshine) and sweating
working in the hanger.
Back to reality and real April weather now!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 12:33 PM
Subject: RE: Amphib main gear

Have to rub it in when I can, but went to the lake
yesterday, and
it was like mid summer with shorts, tee shirt and
all my vents
open in the plane to keep cool. Temps up the valley
at the Hope
airport, which is not far from Harrison Lake hit 28 C/82 F
yesterday. On the way home, though, had to skirt
around a mild
thunderstorm, and my wife was with me, so she wasn't
too happy
with that.

I am using the big blue pucks which I switched to
before I even
flew on my amphibs. I think these were the Elite
nose gear ones.
I believe they are the same dimension as the new
yellow ones, but
not sure about the stiffness. Mine are pretty stiff,
but that's
how I like them, with no chance of bottoming out.

Walter
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:08 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Amphib main gear


Better you than me Curt !!! LOL I"ve got to haul an
airplane 60 miles to
paint this afternoon! We've had heavy rain for two
days, but luckily (till I
get that plane loaded anyhow) it's stayed warm enough
to keep it liquid.
Calling for snow late this afternoon and I can't drop
the plane off until
7:30pm %(*$^^(!!

As for the gear rubbers......if anyone doesn't need
those old ones anymore
I'm more than willing to take what you have off your
hands. I like the old
rubbers in combination with the Bellville washers I
use to retain them and
add to the shock load value. Not sure yet what my
prebuilts have in them as
I can't pull the wheel out far enough to look at them
sitting in the crate
holders. MAM plumbed them cylinder to cylinder, with
fluid in the lines so
they are hydraulically locked in position..along with
the brake caliper
jammed against the brake line retainer strip cause
it's in the wrong
place... amongst a few other boo boos... like bottom
skin not clearanced in
the right place so the trailing arms can come down
etc. Going to be a bit
more work to get these onto an aircraft than I
thought, but not as much as
having to build from scratch :O)!

Cheers,
Wayne O'Shea
1516 Alvin Williams Rd
Penetang, Ontario
L9M-2C1


----- Original Message -----
From: <Rebflyer@aol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Amphib main gear

1800's and after 3 yrs of ordered the new ones.
FL/260. but not on the end's.
I shifting and they do feel system with that stack
up too. snow on the ground as
of 60f+ weather with an
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