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C Brockway

rear float brackets

Post by C Brockway » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:16 am

Wow! Now I have much more to consider. I didn't
want the extra weight of two sets of attach
fittings but never thought the extra set could be
used as a multi purpose attach point. Yes indeed,
more think time. Thanks for the ideas all.

Curt Brockway E695

Bob Andrews wrote:
Thanks Wayne for reminding me where I "picked it up" from. For me anyway
... the jury's out on this one ... thanks for everyones participation and
inputs.

Bob e612

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 7:34 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: rear float brackets

As I already posted it's true Bob..if you give it the boot and haul the
stick back immediately you put the MAM 1800 rear spreader under water. Also
when doing plow turns... as if you don't have the spreader sealed off to the
float skins you fill the compartment where the spreader stubs come out of
the floats to bolt the speader bar to.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Andrews" <robert@montanasky.us>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:16 PM
Subject: RE: rear float brackets
Found this Elite 1800 Amphib MAM installation on the NW Rebel site ...
nice
paint job. Those aft struts look pretty vertical ... and long.

http://groups.msn.com/NWRebelExperiment ... intallatio
n.msnw

Think the bottom line on all this is ... if you have an aft spreader bar
location like the MAM 1800's (or the two special 2200's that MFC built)
then
the MAM aft fitting is the one to use. If you have regular MFC 2200's
(which has the aft spreader bar more forward then the 1800's) ... then the
MAM aft fitting can be used too ... or to get the strut more vertical,
attaching one station forward to the aft door post location is the way to
go. From what I've picked up thus far, the advantage to the more forward
aft spreader bar MFC 2200's is that the spreader bar won't make contact
with
the water during take offs. However, I haven't flown either off the
water,
so I can't speak from experience ... only what I've picked up. If there
are
any out there reading this, would like to hear from Elite (or Rebel if
applicable) amphib drivers with experience taking off the water with the
MAM
1800's set up ... specifically the aft spreader bar in the water issue (to
dispell or validate) ... thanks.

Bob e612

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Alan Hepburn
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 6:04 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: rear float brackets


Agree - they're not Montanas. The nose gears are different, the rear
spreader is too far back (though that could be one of these two sets), you
can see the tops of those circular plastic access hatches, and it's not
Keith's rigging.

Al
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Andrews" <robert@montanasky.us>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 5:01 PM
Subject: RE: rear float brackets

Hi Mike ... I thought so too at first, but then I saw what looked like
[lightening like] holes in the nose gear forks which looked the same as
the
1800's ... and I couldn't tell if the nose gear legs were flat or round.
Also the MFC 2200A's I had seen before had black spackled paint aft of
the
green paint, and these don't ... but it could have been an early picture
as
you mentioned. Indeed you may be right on here ... they may be MFC
2200's.
I just learned that Keith made two special sets of 2200A's targeted for
the
Elite/Rebel that had the aft spreader bar at the same station as the MAM
1800's (aft of the normal MFC 2200A's) ... so that throws a slight curve
in
my picture based analysis as I can't be sure which model MFC 2200 is on
the
G/W Elite. Did have fun moving the pixels though ... and putting them
both
in a power point slide show and with a camera click sound transitioning
between the two pictures made for some pretty cool dynamic aft struts.

Bob e612

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 2:11 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: rear float brackets


Hi Bob, that photo is of the old factory demonstrator... if I'm not
mistaken, those are Montana 2200 floats on there.

Mike
195SR

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Andrews" <robert@montanasky.us>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 5:39 AM
Subject: RE: rear float brackets

good
knows,
fish
...
set
of
the
for
and
side.
the
surgery
riveted
to
stick
as
way
was
not
attach
points,
attach
outside.
bad,
the
ago,
might
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On
with
the life!
hole
ares
outside!
Is
should
also
be
intended
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Alan Hepburn

rear float brackets

Post by Alan Hepburn » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:16 am

Re-sent due to server problem.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: rear float brackets

Again, they look like MAM floats. The water rudders don't have the
straight
rear edge of the Montanas. I will upload a couple of pics of the Elite
that
Sean White built for Bob ? which don't require such good eyesight! It's
on
MAM 1800s.

AL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Andrews" <robert@montanasky.us>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:16 PM
Subject: RE: rear float brackets

Found this Elite 1800 Amphib MAM installation on the NW Rebel site ...
nice
paint job. Those aft struts look pretty vertical ... and long.

http://groups.msn.com/NWRebelExperiment ... intallatio
n.msnw

Think the bottom line on all this is ... if you have an aft spreader bar
location like the MAM 1800's (or the two special 2200's that MFC built)
then
the MAM aft fitting is the one to use. If you have regular MFC 2200's
(which has the aft spreader bar more forward then the 1800's) ... then
the
MAM aft fitting can be used too ... or to get the strut more vertical,
attaching one station forward to the aft door post location is the way
to
go. From what I've picked up thus far, the advantage to the more
forward
aft spreader bar MFC 2200's is that the spreader bar won't make contact
with
the water during take offs. However, I haven't flown either off the
water,
so I can't speak from experience ... only what I've picked up. If there
are
any out there reading this, would like to hear from Elite (or Rebel if
applicable) amphib drivers with experience taking off the water with the
MAM
1800's set up ... specifically the aft spreader bar in the water issue
(to
dispell or validate) ... thanks.

Bob e612

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Alan Hepburn
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 6:04 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: rear float brackets


Agree - they're not Montanas. The nose gears are different, the rear
spreader is too far back (though that could be one of these two sets),
you
can see the tops of those circular plastic access hatches, and it's not
Keith's rigging.

Al
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Andrews" <robert@montanasky.us>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 5:01 PM
Subject: RE: rear float brackets

Hi Mike ... I thought so too at first, but then I saw what looked like
[lightening like] holes in the nose gear forks which looked the same
as
the
1800's ... and I couldn't tell if the nose gear legs were flat or
round.
Also the MFC 2200A's I had seen before had black spackled paint aft of
the
green paint, and these don't ... but it could have been an early
picture
as
you mentioned. Indeed you may be right on here ... they may be MFC
2200's.
I just learned that Keith made two special sets of 2200A's targeted
for
the
Elite/Rebel that had the aft spreader bar at the same station as the
MAM
1800's (aft of the normal MFC 2200A's) ... so that throws a slight
curve
in
my picture based analysis as I can't be sure which model MFC 2200 is
on
the
G/W Elite. Did have fun moving the pixels though ... and putting them
both
in a power point slide show and with a camera click sound
transitioning
between the two pictures made for some pretty cool dynamic aft struts.

Bob e612

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 2:11 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: rear float brackets


Hi Bob, that photo is of the old factory demonstrator... if I'm not
mistaken, those are Montana 2200 floats on there.

Mike
195SR

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Andrews" <robert@montanasky.us>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 5:39 AM
Subject: RE: rear float brackets

good
knows,
fish
chair
...
set
of
move
the
greatest
for
www.aacnet.com/elite/1800aft.jpg
and
C
aft
side.
on
the
Of
surgery
riveted
to
stick
part
as
other
way
rear
nothing
was
is
not
attach
points,
attach
outside.
bad,
fit
the
ago,
access
[/quote]from
might
[/quote]circular
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On
with
the
[/quote]my
hole
ares
outside!
Is
should
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also
be
intended
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[/quote]notify
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Gilles St-Pierre

rear float brackets

Post by Gilles St-Pierre » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:16 am

Bob
we had to fabricate our since we have a roll bar `(1/3 6061 t6 tubing) 3/4
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