Rebel - 912 powered Empty Weight

Bob Patterson · Post by **Bob Patterson** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:09 am

Hi Guys !

I

IAN DONALDSON · Post by **IAN DONALDSON** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:09 am

G'day Bob

My 912UL (100hp) powered Rebel weighs 330 kg ready to fly.

Hope this is of some interest.

Regards

Ian Donaldson

[quote]
Hi Guys !

I

Bob Patterson · Post by **Bob Patterson** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:09 am

Thanks Ian ! That

Aurele Lavigne · Post by **Aurele Lavigne** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:09 am

Bob, the empty weight recorded at the scale in Chilliwack, B.C. when 063
was
built was 601 lbs, with the 912. Once you add the radio,gps,headsets and
few
minor items I've added, I figure 625 lbs. As far as gross, I've got
different numbers depending on who you talk to, but I'd go with 1232 lbs.

Aurele

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[quote]
Thanks Ian ! That

Bob Patterson · Post by **Bob Patterson** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:09 am

Thanks Aurele ! That still a nice light Sport Category
airplane ! :-)

..............bobp

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On Monday 07 February 2005 10:23 pm, Aurele Lavigne wrote:

Bob, the empty weight recorded at the scale in Chilliwack, B.C. when 063

was
built was 601 lbs, with the 912. Once you add the radio,gps,headsets and

few
minor items I've added, I figure 625 lbs. As far as gross, I've got
different numbers depending on who you talk to, but I'd go with 1232 lbs.

Aurele

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel - 912 powered Empty Weight

Thanks Ian ! That

IAN DONALDSON · Post by **IAN DONALDSON** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:09 am

G'day Aurele

What did you leave out to get that weight?

I thought that I had made a really light airplane but you beat me by #100!

regards

Ian Donaldson

: Re: Rebel - 912 powered Empty Weight

Bob, the empty weight recorded at the scale in Chilliwack, B.C. when 063
was
built was 601 lbs, with the 912. Once you add the radio,gps,headsets and
few
minor items I've added, I figure 625 lbs. As far as gross, I've got
different numbers depending on who you talk to, but I'd go with 1232 lbs.

Aurele

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Aurele Lavigne · Post by **Aurele Lavigne** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:09 am

Ian,

I know, it's probably the engine, you have to power up by kicking your feet
on the ground real fast, like the Fleenstones. LOL

Seriously, I can't answer. It was factory built and Bob P. might have a
better idea. He once told me they actually experimented with this build and
made every effort to keep the weight down. As you can see, they did a great
job. That really improves my performance on floats and helps with payload.
Bob actually flew it back after completion from the factory in B.C. to
Longlac, Ontario.

Of course, this light weight does limit my flying in windy conditions.

Aurele
R063

P.S. Where are you located.

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From: "IAN DONALDSON" <allsure@bigpond.net.au>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: Rebel - 912 powered Empty Weight

G'day Aurele

What did you leave out to get that weight?

I thought that I had made a really light airplane but you beat me by #100!

regards

Ian Donaldson

: Re: Rebel - 912 powered Empty Weight

Bob, the empty weight recorded at the scale in Chilliwack, B.C. when 063
was
built was 601 lbs, with the 912. Once you add the radio,gps,headsets and
few
minor items I've added, I figure 625 lbs. As far as gross, I've got
different numbers depending on who you talk to, but I'd go with 1232 lbs.

Aurele

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Bob Patterson · Post by **Bob Patterson** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:09 am

Hi Ian !

I

IAN DONALDSON · Post by **IAN DONALDSON** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:09 am

G'day Aurele

That is amazing that they could get it so light. My plane has a very basic
panel and only a little upholstery and I just dont know where I could take a
few pounds out of it leave alone #100!

I have a very strange mental picture of you pedalling like crazy to get it
all in the air. However the 100hp has no trouble at all hauling it along. It
seems like a great combination to me. Australia is mostly desert and we just
don't have use for floats like you would do in your part of the world.

My Rebel handles windy conditions and just a week ago I did circuits with my
instructor and we were landing in over 20knots, gusting at 90 degrees. The
rebel handles just beautifully.

I live in the city of Geelong in the state of Victoria in the wide brown
land of Australia. We are right at the bottom of Australia if you get out
the map. Come over and have a holiday and get some good weather. If you
travel to Australia with $US you will have a very cheap holiday indeed!

regards

Ian Donaldson

I know, it's probably the engine, you have to power up by kicking your
feet
on the ground real fast, like the Fleenstones. LOL

Seriously, I can't answer. It was factory built and Bob P. might have a
better idea. He once told me they actually experimented with this build
and
made every effort to keep the weight down. As you can see, they did a
great
job. That really improves my performance on floats and helps with payload.
Bob actually flew it back after completion from the factory in B.C. to
Longlac, Ontario.

Of course, this light weight does limit my flying in windy conditions.

Aurele
R063

P.S. Where are you located.

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IAN DONALDSON · Post by **IAN DONALDSON** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:09 am

G'day Bob

Now I understand the difference. I did notice in the video that they offered
a different version to the standard one that I built.

[quote]I

Bob Patterson · Post by **Bob Patterson** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:09 am

Wow !! You

Aurele Lavigne · Post by **Aurele Lavigne** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:09 am

Ian, sorry I didn't respond earlier, had a touch of the flew and been under
the weather a few days.

Would love to visit Australia some day. Will have to do a bit of research
though, as don't know much about the land "down under". Leaving next month
for a Carribean cruise and will start planning for next winters trip over
the next few months.

As for the Rebel's performance, I know that the performance is excellent
"power wise" on wheels and skis, wheareas on floats, like most planes,
performance decreases. Despite this, of the 300+ hours I have accumulated,
almost all is float time. For one thing, we have loads of lakes and rivers
and our winters are sooooo long and harsh, flying time is limited then.

Will keep in touch.

Aurele
R063
----- Original Message -----
From: "IAN DONALDSON" <allsure@bigpond.net.au>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: Rebel - 912 powered Empty Weight

G'day Aurele

That is amazing that they could get it so light. My plane has a very basic
panel and only a little upholstery and I just dont know where I could take
a
few pounds out of it leave alone #100!

I have a very strange mental picture of you pedalling like crazy to get it
all in the air. However the 100hp has no trouble at all hauling it along.
It
seems like a great combination to me. Australia is mostly desert and we
just
don't have use for floats like you would do in your part of the world.

My Rebel handles windy conditions and just a week ago I did circuits with
my
instructor and we were landing in over 20knots, gusting at 90 degrees. The
rebel handles just beautifully.

I live in the city of Geelong in the state of Victoria in the wide brown
land of Australia. We are right at the bottom of Australia if you get out
the map. Come over and have a holiday and get some good weather. If you
travel to Australia with $US you will have a very cheap holiday indeed!

regards

Ian Donaldson

I know, it's probably the engine, you have to power up by kicking your
feet
on the ground real fast, like the Fleenstones. LOL

Seriously, I can't answer. It was factory built and Bob P. might have a
better idea. He once told me they actually experimented with this build
and
made every effort to keep the weight down. As you can see, they did a
great
job. That really improves my performance on floats and helps with
payload.
Bob actually flew it back after completion from the factory in B.C. to
Longlac, Ontario.

Of course, this light weight does limit my flying in windy conditions.

Aurele
R063

P.S. Where are you located.

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