Rigging the Flaps

[JACK JOOS]

Greetings,

I am at the point where I should consider rigging up the flaps on the Moose.
However, I really don't care for the MAM method of having the flap cable go
vertical through prime real estate in the tail cone and then out through a
slit in the cabin top skin.
Has anyone out there got a better rigging method,(other than useing an
overhead flap handle and/or electric flap actuators), ie still keeping the
flap handle on the floor?
Would appreciate any suggestions or comments.
Thanks,
Jack Joos
SR193

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[jtpackard]

Jack:
I have the same opinion. I know other(s) have replaced the cable routing
per the MAM method with a Teleflex cable running from the handle over to a
rear door post-then up to the end of the large torque tube. On mine, I will
be adding a horn to the end of this torque tube to replace the one in the
middle sticking thru the top skin. The horn length will have to be the right
length to equal the oringinal 'arm' length. The Teleflex cable cost about
$20. I bought two because I screwed up figuring out how long it should be.
If you choose this method and your routing can accomodate an extra foot,
I'll sell the extra one for $10. I think it's 8 ft. Will measure exactly
if you or anyone else is interested.
Regards,
Tom Packard
SR043 (yes, I've been at it for 7+ yrs)
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From: "JACK JOOS" <lawsontj@att.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 1:05 AM
Subject: Rigging the Flaps

Greetings,

I am at the point where I should consider rigging up the flaps on the

Moose.

However, I really don't care for the MAM method of having the flap cable

go

vertical through prime real estate in the tail cone and then out through a
slit in the cabin top skin.
Has anyone out there got a better rigging method,(other than useing an
overhead flap handle and/or electric flap actuators), ie still keeping the
flap handle on the floor?
Would appreciate any suggestions or comments.
Thanks,
Jack Joos
SR193

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[JACK JOOS]

Tom,
Thanks for the response. Tom,7+ years, by this time you should be an expert
in deciphering the MAM manual.
Sounds like a good arrangement if the geometry comes out alright. Is there
any space conflict with both teleflex cable and fuel line running in the
same door post? Where do you get the teleflex cable from? The more I think
about it the better I like it. Just trying to assess what's the downside.
Thanks,
Jack Joos
SR193

From: <jtpackard@usfamily.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 08:21:50 -0600
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: Rigging the Flaps

Jack:
I have the same opinion. I know other(s) have replaced the cable routing
per the MAM method with a Teleflex cable running from the handle over to a
rear door post-then up to the end of the large torque tube. On mine, I will
be adding a horn to the end of this torque tube to replace the one in the
middle sticking thru the top skin. The horn length will have to be the right
length to equal the oringinal 'arm' length. The Teleflex cable cost about
$20. I bought two because I screwed up figuring out how long it should be.
If you choose this method and your routing can accomodate an extra foot,
I'll sell the extra one for $10. I think it's 8 ft. Will measure exactly
if you or anyone else is interested.
Regards,
Tom Packard
SR043 (yes, I've been at it for 7+ yrs)
----- Original Message -----
From: "JACK JOOS" <lawsontj@att.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 1:05 AM
Subject: Rigging the Flaps

Greetings,

I am at the point where I should consider rigging up the flaps on the

Moose.

However, I really don't care for the MAM method of having the flap cable

go

vertical through prime real estate in the tail cone and then out through a
slit in the cabin top skin.
Has anyone out there got a better rigging method,(other than useing an
overhead flap handle and/or electric flap actuators), ie still keeping the
flap handle on the floor?
Would appreciate any suggestions or comments.
Thanks,
Jack Joos
SR193

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[jtpackard]

Jack:
I bought the Teleflex from <BoatFix.com> I've copied the info below:
Qty Part No Name Options Price Total
1 MOR3019477 7' TYPE 33C SUPREME CABLE TELEFLEX
MECHANICAL: $26.35 $26.35


Totals Sub Total : $26.35
Shipping Type : shipping (est.)
Shipping : $6.40
Tax : $0.00
Total : $32.75


I haven't run my fuel lines yet, but I don't think it will be a
problem. The cable is only 3/8" Dia.
Tom

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From: "JACK JOOS" <lawsontj@att.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Rigging the Flaps

Tom,
Thanks for the response. Tom,7+ years, by this time you should be an

expert

in deciphering the MAM manual.
Sounds like a good arrangement if the geometry comes out alright. Is there
any space conflict with both teleflex cable and fuel line running in the
same door post? Where do you get the teleflex cable from? The more I think
about it the better I like it. Just trying to assess what's the downside.
Thanks,
Jack Joos
SR193

From: <jtpackard@usfamily.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 08:21:50 -0600
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
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[rickhm]

Interesting idea. Any chance of getting a picture of this for clarity. I feel better having been at it for 6 years

Rick Muller
SR70

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Jack:
I bought the Teleflex from I've copied the info below:
Qty Part No Name Options Price Total
1 MOR3019477 7' TYPE 33C SUPREME CABLE TELEFLEX
MECHANICAL: $26.35 $26.35


Totals Sub Total : $26.35
Shipping Type : shipping (est.)
Shipping : $6.40
Tax : $0.00
Total : $32.75


I haven't run my fuel lines yet, but I don't think it will be a
problem. The cable is only 3/8" Dia.
Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "JACK JOOS"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Rigging the Flaps

Tom,
Thanks for the response. Tom,7+ years, by this time you should be an

expert

in deciphering the MAM manual.
Sounds like a good arrangement if the geometry comes out alright. Is there
any space conflict with both teleflex cable and fuel line running in the
same door post? Where do you get the teleflex cable from? The more I think
about it the better I like it. Just trying to assess what's the downside.
Thanks,
Jack Joos
SR193

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[jtpackard]

Rick:
Unfortunately, I haven't installed my cable yet and therefore don't have any
photos. However, Al Paxhia has used Teleflex cable for flaps in his Moose
and supplied me with photos. I lost those photos when my hard drive crashed
last year, but I'm sure he could supply. His email was paxhia2@comcast.net.

Tom
SR 043
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Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: Rigging the Flaps

Interesting idea. Any chance of getting a picture of this for clarity. I

feel better having been at it for 6 years

Rick Muller
SR70

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[Al Paxhia]

Tom,
I think the pictures that you had are the same ones in the archives under
S/M Flaps. If not I'll dig around and try to find something.
Al
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From: <jtpackard@usfamily.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: Rigging the Flaps

Rick:
Unfortunately, I haven't installed my cable yet and therefore don't have
any
photos. However, Al Paxhia has used Teleflex cable for flaps in his
Moose
and supplied me with photos. I lost those photos when my hard drive
crashed
last year, but I'm sure he could supply. His email was
paxhia2@comcast.net.

Tom
SR 043
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Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: Rigging the Flaps

Interesting idea. Any chance of getting a picture of this for clarity.
I

feel better having been at it for 6 years

Rick Muller
SR70

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[JACK JOOS]

Tom,
I've been away for the week. Thanks for the teleflex information. A 7' cable
must mean a pretty direct run. Is the large required bend radius(6"min?) an
issue in this routing? I see Al Paxhia may have posted some pictures in the
archives.
Thanks again,
Jack SR193

From: <jtpackard@usfamily.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 13:30:50 -0600
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: Rigging the Flaps

Jack:
I bought the Teleflex from <BoatFix.com> I've copied the info below:
Qty Part No Name Options Price Total
1 MOR3019477 7' TYPE 33C SUPREME CABLE TELEFLEX
MECHANICAL: $26.35 $26.35


Totals Sub Total : $26.35
Shipping Type : shipping (est.)
Shipping : $6.40
Tax : $0.00
Total : $32.75


I haven't run my fuel lines yet, but I don't think it will be a
problem. The cable is only 3/8" Dia.
Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "JACK JOOS" <lawsontj@att.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Rigging the Flaps

Tom,
Thanks for the response. Tom,7+ years, by this time you should be an

expert

in deciphering the MAM manual.
Sounds like a good arrangement if the geometry comes out alright. Is there
any space conflict with both teleflex cable and fuel line running in the
same door post? Where do you get the teleflex cable from? The more I think
about it the better I like it. Just trying to assess what's the downside.
Thanks,
Jack Joos
SR193

From: <jtpackard@usfamily.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 08:21:50 -0600
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
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[jtpackard]

Jack:
I checked and Al's photos of his flap installation were lost when the system
crashed last year. Might want to ask him to supply or post again on the
site. Yes, the cable routing is fairly direct and the radius isn't a
problem except for several inches of steel rod at the end of the cable. In
the door post, I had to grind away some of the sill that is inside the
channel so that the rod end could make the turn upward.
----- Original Message -----
From: "JACK JOOS" <lawsontj@att.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: Rigging the Flaps

Tom,
I've been away for the week. Thanks for the teleflex information. A 7'

cable

must mean a pretty direct run. Is the large required bend radius(6"min?)

an

issue in this routing? I see Al Paxhia may have posted some pictures in

the

archives.
Thanks again,
Jack SR193

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