Landing Gear

[bosdes]

Tax free shopping, eh?

-------------- Original message from "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>: --------------

I don't have time for that one right now John...but there will be lots
chiming in on it while I'm away in New Hampshire. Catch up with you guys in
a week or so !! Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Kramer" <369R@kramers.org>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 2:24 PM
Subject: Landing Gear

Is there a disadvantage to the spring gear Murphy offers for the Rebel

vs.

the standard bungee gear?

John...



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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Nope..I'm not into that!..... Skiing the highest vertical east of the
rockies at a pathetic 2100 feet. Cannon Mountain and Loon Mountain, Lincoln
NH.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Hauri" <bosdes@att.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>; <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Cc: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: Landing Gear

Tax free shopping, eh?

-------------- Original message from "Wayne G. O'Shea"

<oifa@irishfield.on.ca>: --------------

I don't have time for that one right now John...but there will be lots
chiming in on it while I'm away in New Hampshire. Catch up with you guys

in

a week or so !! Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Kramer" <369R@kramers.org>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 2:24 PM
Subject: Landing Gear

Rebel

vs.

John...



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[John Kramer]

Thanks Bob, a couple of hours browsing has given me much to ponder. A
somewhat different story than from the factory, and they didn't mention the
weight penalty at all. The primary claim was it is at least as strong on
rough field and better in crosswind.

Between you and Wayne and the other experienced hands I am slowly getting
up to speed on about .01% of what I need to know. The help is greatly
appreciated.

John...




[quote]Hi John !

Just have a browse through the archives - keyword

[carol and murray cherkas]

John

The bungee gear is a very stong set of legs. Believe me I know. Not a
s
sexxy. But strong.

Good Luck
Murray
Rebel 505


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Kramer" <369R@kramers.org>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: Landing Gear

Thanks Bob, a couple of hours browsing has given me much to ponder.

A

somewhat different story than from the factory, and they didn't men

tion

the
weight penalty at all. The primary claim was it is at least as str

ong on

rough field and better in crosswind.

Between you and Wayne and the other experienced hands I am slowly g

etting

up to speed on about .01% of what I need to know. The help is grea

tly

appreciated.

John...

Hi John !

Just have a browse through the archives - keyword

[Terry Dazey]

Hello John:

If I had to do it again, I would go with the bungee. If you are thinking in
the future of putting it on floats, you will not be carrying around Landing
Gear Stiffener Plates etc. associated with the Spring Gear setup. I would
guess that the building time for the spring gear, parts, patches etc. is MUCH,
MUCH longer than the bungee setup. When I was in the process of purchasing my
Rebel kit, I made it a point to mention that it was eventually going on floats
and wanted to keep things light, but no one mentioned the spring gear weight
penalty. I was a newbee (and before I had access to newsgroup) and thought the
spring gear was the way to go and didn't know to ask about any weight
penalty. Duh!

My vote is for the bungee, and if you transition to floats in the future you
will be lighter. Lighter is better . . .

Just my .01 worth.

Terry Dazey
Rebel 662
Sumner, Washington USA

John Kramer wrote:

Is there a disadvantage to the spring gear Murphy offers for the Rebel vs.
the standard bungee gear?

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[LisaFly99]

In a message dated 2/3/2005 12:44:54 PM Central Standard Time,
dazey@earthlink.net writes:

Is there a disadvantage to the spring gear Murphy offers for the Rebel vs.

the standard bungee gear?

JOHN
Terry Dazey about said it all. The disadvantages are weight, labor, time.
And if you fair you're bungee gear I don't think the spring gear has a speed
advantage worth speaking of. I've built one with spring and one with bungee. If
you're a first time builder you'll save two weeks of fabricating and building
with the bungee style.
PDSmith




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[John Kramer]

PD Smith, Terry Dazey, Bob Patterson, etal

I should have stayed in the office and read more of the archives yesterday:
instead I went to the shop and joined the #30 drilled finger club.

Ah well live and learn, and I am learning late and often.

Thanks to all,

John...

At 02:19 PM 02/03/05, you wrote:

In a message dated 2/3/2005 12:44:54 PM Central Standard Time,
dazey@earthlink.net writes:

Is there a disadvantage to the spring gear Murphy offers for the Rebel vs.

the standard bungee gear?

JOHN
Terry Dazey about said it all. The disadvantages are weight, labor, time.
And if you fair you're bungee gear I don't think the spring gear has a speed
advantage worth speaking of. I've built one with spring and one with
bungee. If
you're a first time builder you'll save two weeks of fabricating and building
with the bungee style.
PDSmith

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[Mike Betti]

I know the feeling, I drilled the end of my thumb with a no.40 about 3/8"
last weekend, and I'm only 2 weeks into this project!
Mike Betti

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Kramer" <369R@kramers.org>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: Landing Gear

PD Smith, Terry Dazey, Bob Patterson, etal

I should have stayed in the office and read more of the archives

yesterday:

instead I went to the shop and joined the #30 drilled finger club.

Ah well live and learn, and I am learning late and often.

Thanks to all,

John...

At 02:19 PM 02/03/05, you wrote:

In a message dated 2/3/2005 12:44:54 PM Central Standard Time,
dazey@earthlink.net writes:

Is there a disadvantage to the spring gear Murphy offers for the Rebel

vs.

JOHN
Terry Dazey about said it all. The disadvantages are weight, labor, time.
And if you fair you're bungee gear I don't think the spring gear has a

speed

advantage worth speaking of. I've built one with spring and one with
bungee. If
you're a first time builder you'll save two weeks of fabricating and

building

with the bungee style.
PDSmith

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[bransom]

I'm a little surprised to see so many hits coming in against the spring gear,
partly just from seeing so many pictures of rebels (perhaps the majority) on
spring gear. I recall MAM advertising a speed increase with them yet with
modest weight gain. Wayne, I think most of those past posts of people
wanting to sell their spring gear were all from me. :) (i won't hold my
breath)
Ben/ 496R 30%



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[Jim Cole]

We've had quite a few discussions on the Manual and I ran across
something this morning when assembling the landing gear that I would
like an opinion on.

In two areas - Fig.15.1.6 and Fig 15.3.6 it calls for AN-6-35A bolts
with penny washers and lock nuts. These are the bolts that you wrap the
bungee cord around. In a third spot Fig15.5.1 it calls for AN-5-35A
bolts. Now I have the AN-5-35A bolts and penny washers supplied with the
kit but I don't have any of the AN-6-35A.

Which is right? Now it's two to one for AN-6 - but the 5 - is in the house!

Thanks
Jim
Rebel 333

PS - if someone is making notes for the manual here is one to correct.

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[jean.poirier]

Hello

In the LG-43 assy, manual to swage a 3/32" safety cable... I do have 1/16" and
1/8" in the kit but no 3/32"! So it is 1/8?

Jean
Rebel 747R





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[Dave Greaton]

The landing gear on my moose have been drilled out to 5/16 on the top holes and 3/8 on the bottom My axle and brake backing are all 5/16. Does any one else have this and
have you done,

Thanks

Dave Greaton moose/sr189


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