Peter, I used to run a Warp on my 0320 Rebel, and on wheels, had
it pitched to spin 2350 on take-off. Can't remember the exact
degrees, but definitely less that 13, and somewhere around 11 if
I remember correctly.
There is a lot of flex in the Rebel flap cable mechanism, so you
will always get much less in the air.
Walter
[quote]-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Peter, Juliet, & Wanaao Piascik
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:23 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Skis on a Rebel
Thanks for the replies guys.
There was ice frozen on the bottom of the skis before
I left the
airport. I tried to remove this ice with a scraper.
The lake I was landing on had some spots of overflow,
but not much.
The wheels are about 1" below the skis.
I have a warp drive prop set at 13
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Skis on a Rebel
Skis on a Rebel
My Rebel with a Subaru and straight ski on packed snow the take off run
is
"short". I have never measured it but it can't be any over 150-200
feet,
even shorter if there is any headwind. I would have to say that either
your
penetration skis are very "draggy" or you are not getting much thrust.
Do
you have plastic on your ski bottoms, if you don't I would highly
recommend
that it be added.
Thank You,
Del Schmucker
Information Systems Manager
Keewatin-Patricia District School Board
807-223-1254
807-221-8769 Cell
807-223-4703 Fax
del.schmucker@kpdsb.on.ca
www.kpdsb.on.ca
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Peter,
Juliet, & Wanaao Piascik
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:23 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Skis on a Rebel
Thanks for the replies guys.
There was ice frozen on the bottom of the skis before I left the
airport. I tried to remove this ice with a scraper.
The lake I was landing on had some spots of overflow, but not much.
The wheels are about 1" below the skis.
I have a warp drive prop set at 13
is
"short". I have never measured it but it can't be any over 150-200
feet,
even shorter if there is any headwind. I would have to say that either
your
penetration skis are very "draggy" or you are not getting much thrust.
Do
you have plastic on your ski bottoms, if you don't I would highly
recommend
that it be added.
Thank You,
Del Schmucker
Information Systems Manager
Keewatin-Patricia District School Board
807-223-1254
807-221-8769 Cell
807-223-4703 Fax
del.schmucker@kpdsb.on.ca
www.kpdsb.on.ca
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Peter,
Juliet, & Wanaao Piascik
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:23 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Skis on a Rebel
Thanks for the replies guys.
There was ice frozen on the bottom of the skis before I left the
airport. I tried to remove this ice with a scraper.
The lake I was landing on had some spots of overflow, but not much.
The wheels are about 1" below the skis.
I have a warp drive prop set at 13
Skis on a Rebel
Peter;
I have a lot of experience flying with wheel penitration skis. You
have to have a groomed field to get off with them but they are fool proof for
landing, I have had to put the plates in many times to get off in soft snow. I
made a drag for behind my snowmobil to groom my home strip in Wyoming.Good Luck!
Larry Luckinbill
Columbus Montana
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I have a lot of experience flying with wheel penitration skis. You
have to have a groomed field to get off with them but they are fool proof for
landing, I have had to put the plates in many times to get off in soft snow. I
made a drag for behind my snowmobil to groom my home strip in Wyoming.Good Luck!
Larry Luckinbill
Columbus Montana
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Skis on a Rebel
Well it may not be like riding a bike, however it's not like I havn't flo
wn
at all. I did do some float flying this summer.
How did you hear about the new park warden over at Fushimi? I wasn't awar
e.
Do you have a name? Is he ffrom Hearst? If so , I can start putting the b
ug
in his ear.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: Skis on a Rebel
9
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H
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wn
at all. I did do some float flying this summer.
How did you hear about the new park warden over at Fushimi? I wasn't awar
e.
Do you have a name? Is he ffrom Hearst? If so , I can start putting the b
ug
in his ear.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: Skis on a Rebel
getAurele...good to hear you're keeping active! Get her back together and
leflying before you get rusty!
And oh yah...new park warden at Fushimi and apparently he may be a litt
somore persuadable for a gathering on the park beach than the last guy...
delivewe'll have to keep that in mind for future gatherings!
Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aurele Lavigne" <acerebel@ntl.sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: Skis on a Rebel
Some people say I'm semi-retired, truth is I'm working for Muskoka
d,ry
on a small run, about 5 to6 hours a day, five days a week. Not too ba
9
ngto
5, no headaches and lots of flexability.
Havn't had C-FONL on skis for a couple of years, question of ltd flyi
projectconditions in winter and using that period for larger maintenance
ings.
Last winter/spring, added Dave's tips and strobes and this winter tak
Rescuall
controls off and either rejuvinating or replacing fabric.
Hope to fly more next summer, as I have joined our local Search and
ele
unit, primarely as a navigator but they authorized the use of my reb
f
ithor
nav training any actual searches.
I've following the group and I know you have/will be extremely busy w
Whatyour new cottage.
Oh and the lakes are actually unthawing this week.
Aurele
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: Skis on a Rebel
Lake frozen up there yet?? Plane ready for some ice fishing trips?
raareyou doing these days.. post Subway sale?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aurele Lavigne" <acerebel@ntl.sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: Skis on a Rebel
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Skis on a Rebel
When we were there this year and found lots of things changed (like not 98%
seasonal occupancy) the young gal at the gate suggested talking to the
superintendent about a flyin gathering. Unfortunately he wasn't around while
we were there and I just assumed with all the changes that someone new must
have come in to take the Provincial Park back from the locals!
Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aurele Lavigne" <acerebel@ntl.sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: Skis on a Rebel
seasonal occupancy) the young gal at the gate suggested talking to the
superintendent about a flyin gathering. Unfortunately he wasn't around while
we were there and I just assumed with all the changes that someone new must
have come in to take the Provincial Park back from the locals!
Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aurele Lavigne" <acerebel@ntl.sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: Skis on a Rebel
-8Well it may not be like riding a bike, however it's not like I havn't flo
wn
at all. I did do some float flying this summer.
How did you hear about the new park warden over at Fushimi? I wasn't awar
e.
Do you have a name? Is he ffrom Hearst? If so , I can start putting the b
ug
in his ear.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: Skis on a Rebel
getAurele...good to hear you're keeping active! Get her back together andleflying before you get rusty!
And oh yah...new park warden at Fushimi and apparently he may be a littsomore persuadable for a gathering on the park beach than the last guy...delivewe'll have to keep that in mind for future gatherings!
Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aurele Lavigne" <acerebel@ntl.sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: Skis on a Rebel
Some people say I'm semi-retired, truth is I'm working for Muskokad,ry
on a small run, about 5 to6 hours a day, five days a week. Not too ba
9ngto
5, no headaches and lots of flexability.
Havn't had C-FONL on skis for a couple of years, question of ltd flyiprojectconditions in winter and using that period for larger maintenanceings.
Last winter/spring, added Dave's tips and strobes and this winter takRescuall
controls off and either rejuvinating or replacing fabric.
Hope to fly more next summer, as I have joined our local Search andele
unit, primarely as a navigator but they authorized the use of my reb
fithor
nav training any actual searches.
I've following the group and I know you have/will be extremely busy wWhatyour new cottage.
Oh and the lakes are actually unthawing this week.
Aurele
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: Skis on a Rebel
raare
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mong
some
Skis on a Rebel
Hope I'm not insulting anyone but FWIW in Spring and Fall we almost
always did a touch and immediate go on lakes and then come around to see
if there was any water in the tracks before landing. If water soaked
through the tracks by the time you came around for inspection you sure
didn't dare land...
The other thing was after stopping for a few seconds, move forward a few
feet. Do that a couple of times to cool the skiis which warm up a bit
due to friction and sometimes freeze to the snow. Of course pine boughs
or something under the skiis if possible for overnight stops.
Ken
Peter, Juliet, & Wanaao Piascik wrote:
[quote]Thanks for the replies guys.
There was ice frozen on the bottom of the skis before I left the
airport. I tried to remove this ice with a scraper.
The lake I was landing on had some spots of overflow, but not much.
The wheels are about 1" below the skis.
I have a warp drive prop set at 13
always did a touch and immediate go on lakes and then come around to see
if there was any water in the tracks before landing. If water soaked
through the tracks by the time you came around for inspection you sure
didn't dare land...
The other thing was after stopping for a few seconds, move forward a few
feet. Do that a couple of times to cool the skiis which warm up a bit
due to friction and sometimes freeze to the snow. Of course pine boughs
or something under the skiis if possible for overnight stops.
Ken
Peter, Juliet, & Wanaao Piascik wrote:
[quote]Thanks for the replies guys.
There was ice frozen on the bottom of the skis before I left the
airport. I tried to remove this ice with a scraper.
The lake I was landing on had some spots of overflow, but not much.
The wheels are about 1" below the skis.
I have a warp drive prop set at 13
Skis on a Rebel
I do have plastic on the bottom of my skis and the tires stick out
about 1"- 11/2"
Peter
On 18-Nov-04, at 8:27 AM, del.schmucker@kpdsb.on.ca wrote:
about 1"- 11/2"
Peter
On 18-Nov-04, at 8:27 AM, del.schmucker@kpdsb.on.ca wrote:
runMy Rebel with a Subaru and straight ski on packed snow the take off
eitheris
"short". I have never measured it but it can't be any over 150-200
feet,
even shorter if there is any headwind. I would have to say that
your
penetration skis are very "draggy" or you are not getting much thrust.
Do
you have plastic on your ski bottoms, if you don't I would highly
recommend
that it be added.
Thank You,
Del Schmucker
Information Systems Manager
Keewatin-Patricia District School Board
807-223-1254
807-221-8769 Cell
807-223-4703 Fax
del.schmucker@kpdsb.on.ca
www.kpdsb.on.ca
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Peter,
Juliet, & Wanaao Piascik
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:23 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Skis on a Rebel
Thanks for the replies guys.
There was ice frozen on the bottom of the skis before I left the
airport. I tried to remove this ice with a scraper.
The lake I was landing on had some spots of overflow, but not much.
The wheels are about 1" below the skis.
I have a warp drive prop set at 13