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[Dale Kopff]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Murray Cherkas" <cherkas@shaw.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 8:34 PM
Subject: RE: prop

Dale:

What are you using in place of the Sensenich. I have a 74"x58 pitch right
now with a 160 hp.
I'm going to pitch it to 60 maybe even 62. I would like a little faster
cruise at the expense of take off and climb performance.Takes off like a
jack rabbit with a kick in the ass anyway.

29 hrs. and really starting to get the feel of it. Doing touch and goes, I
have taken off from a three point position. Gotta keep the nose down to

get

a little speed before climb. This takes about 2 seconds. Bob says ,"it

just

keeps getting better".

Good luck selling your prop.

Murray

I am using a Prince prop which is wood/carbon fiber, and is 20+ pounds
lighter.

Dale
295RT

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Dale Kopff
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 8:17 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: prop


I want to sell my Sensenich 74-56 prop with only two hours since overhaul.
The hub is 7/16 bolt pattern.
$1,300.00 U.S. Dale Kopff, 573-3484873

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[Peter, Juliet, & Wanaao]

Dale:

What was the size of your engine? Would you then recommend the 74-42
prop by Prince for a 0-320?

Peter


On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 07:09 AM, Dale Kopff wrote:

I had two of the four blades on my warp prop crack.
I tried first tried a overhauled sensenich 74-56 prop (For Sale
($l500.00
U.S.) and then a 74-44 Prince which out performed the Sensenich. The
Prince
prop is wood/carbon fiber and 20+lbs. lighter. I can't get redline in
level
flight, therefore I could have gone to a 74-42.
The reason the pitch is lower than the sensenich is because the prop
is a
semitar shape, the tips or P tipped, and also the prop will flex
forward
when under a load.

Dale
N295RT



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[Dale Kopff]

I had two of the four blades on my warp prop crack.
I tried first tried a overhauled sensenich 74-56 prop (For Sale ($l500.00
U.S.) and then a 74-44 Prince which out performed the Sensenich. The Prince
prop is wood/carbon fiber and 20+lbs. lighter. I can't get redline in level
flight, therefore I could have gone to a 74-42.
The reason the pitch is lower than the sensenich is because the prop is a
semitar shape, the tips or P tipped, and also the prop will flex forward
when under a load.

Dale
N295RT



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[Dale Kopff]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter, Juliet, & Wanaao" <northofsixty@mac.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: prop

Dale:

What was the size of your engine? Would you then recommend the 74-42
prop by Prince for a 0-320?

Peter

I have a 0-320, 160 hp on amphibious floats. At 2000msl, 72degrees, I
indicated 115mph,2600rpm. You might ask Prince (Lonnie), for his advice. It
might be better to go to a larger diameter since I show no prop erosion from
the water.
Dale
N295RT

On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 07:09 AM, Dale Kopff wrote:

I had two of the four blades on my warp prop crack.
I tried first tried a overhauled sensenich 74-56 prop (For Sale
($l500.00
U.S.) and then a 74-44 Prince which out performed the Sensenich. The
Prince
prop is wood/carbon fiber and 20+lbs. lighter. I can't get redline in
level
flight, therefore I could have gone to a 74-42.
The reason the pitch is lower than the sensenich is because the prop
is a
semitar shape, the tips or P tipped, and also the prop will flex
forward
when under a load.

Dale
N295RT



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[Walter Klatt]

Dale, your 115 mph at 2600 RPM with the Prince prop, is that top
speed at full throttle?

Walter

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[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Dale Kopff
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 1:09 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: prop



----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter, Juliet, & Wanaao" <northofsixty@mac.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: prop

Dale:

What was the size of your engine? Would you then

recommend the 74-42

prop by Prince for a 0-320?

Peter

I have a 0-320, 160 hp on amphibious floats. At
2000msl, 72degrees, I
indicated 115mph,2600rpm. You might ask Prince
(Lonnie), for his advice. It
might be better to go to a larger diameter since I
show no prop erosion from
the water.
Dale
N295RT

On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 07:09 AM, Dale Kopff wrote:

I had two of the four blades on my warp prop crack.
I tried first tried a overhauled sensenich 74-56

prop (For Sale

($l500.00
U.S.) and then a 74-44 Prince which out performed

the Sensenich. The

Prince
prop is wood/carbon fiber and 20+lbs. lighter. I

can't get redline in

level
flight, therefore I could have gone to a 74-42.
The reason the pitch is lower than the sensenich

is because the prop

is a
semitar shape, the tips or P tipped, and also the

prop will flex

forward
when under a load.

Dale
N295RT

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[Dale Kopff]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <walter.klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 7:19 PM
Subject: RE: prop

Dale, your 115 mph at 2600 RPM with the Prince prop, is that top
speed at full throttle?

Walter

Yes, with full throttle, 160hp, amphibious floats.

Dale
295RT

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[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Dale Kopff
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 1:09 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: prop



----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter, Juliet, & Wanaao" <northofsixty@mac.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: prop

Dale:

What was the size of your engine? Would you then

recommend the 74-42

prop by Prince for a 0-320?

Peter

I have a 0-320, 160 hp on amphibious floats. At
2000msl, 72degrees, I
indicated 115mph,2600rpm. You might ask Prince
(Lonnie), for his advice. It
might be better to go to a larger diameter since I
show no prop erosion from
the water.
Dale
N295RT

On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 07:09 AM, Dale Kopff wrote:

prop (For Sale

the Sensenich. The

can't get redline in

is because the prop

prop will flex

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[Dale Kopff]

Rebel men,

Last year I replaced my Sensenich prop with a Prince prop which out
performed the Sensenich prop in all areas, plus it is 20 plus pounds ligher.

I had Prince prop re-pitch my prop to increase my static rpm to 2500rpm
which did not help. Prince prop then made me a new prop which now gives me
2500 static rpm and 2800 rpm (full power) in level flight, at no cost to me
other than shipp;ing.

The increase in performance is great.
Thanks again to Lonnie Prince Propeller Company

Dale
Rebel 295RT




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[Rick Harper]

G'day from OZ Dale !

What engine are you running ? ....... &

What Diameter & Pitch (& Model number etc) Prince prop did you get ?

What do you climb out at ? (speed & VSI reading)

(2800 sounds a tad high - ....... but not for an 0-235 yes ?... we used
to run one)

We bought the wooden Sensenich 76 X 60 that Wayne pointed out to us all
- on E-Bay a while back .... it's a GREAT Cruise prop .... but it's a
bitt too much prop on take off - we only get 2250 - 2300 RPM on climbout
.... pity it's a great prop otherwise & in great condition too !

Thanks !

Rick & Wendy Harper
541R
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Kopff
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Cc: PROPELLERS@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 3:52 AM
Subject: prop


Rebel men,

Last year I replaced my Sensenich prop with a Prince prop which out
performed the Sensenich prop in all areas, plus it is 20 plus pounds
ligher.

I had Prince prop re-pitch my prop to increase my static rpm to
2500rpm
which did not help. Prince prop then made me a new prop which now
gives me
2500 static rpm and 2800 rpm (full power) in level flight, at no cost
to me
other than shipp;ing.

The increase in performance is great.
Thanks again to Lonnie Prince Propeller Company

Dale
Rebel 295RT




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[Rebflyer]

Hi Dale,
Can you give us what hp your engine is and the length and pitch(if prince
has those numbers)?
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[Dale Kopff]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Harper" <rjwh@optusnet.com.au>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: prop

Rick,
I have a lycoming 0-320, 160hp.
The prop is a 74-42, but because of the shape, it changes pitch (almost
constant speed).
The rpm remains 2500rpm from static to about 80mph.
I have not recorded rate of climb numbers yet.
For more information try www.princeaircraft.com or email: propellers@aol.com

G'day from OZ Dale !

What engine are you running ? ....... &

What Diameter & Pitch (& Model number etc) Prince prop did you get ?

What do you climb out at ? (speed & VSI reading)

(2800 sounds a tad high - ....... but not for an 0-235 yes ?... we used
to run one)

We bought the wooden Sensenich 76 X 60 that Wayne pointed out to us all
- on E-Bay a while back .... it's a GREAT Cruise prop .... but it's a
bitt too much prop on take off - we only get 2250 - 2300 RPM on climbout
.... pity it's a great prop otherwise & in great condition too !

Thanks !

Rick & Wendy Harper
541R
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Kopff
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Cc: PROPELLERS@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 3:52 AM
Subject: prop


Rebel men,

Last year I replaced my Sensenich prop with a Prince prop which out
performed the Sensenich prop in all areas, plus it is 20 plus pounds
ligher.

I had Prince prop re-pitch my prop to increase my static rpm to
2500rpm
which did not help. Prince prop then made me a new prop which now
gives me
2500 static rpm and 2800 rpm (full power) in level flight, at no cost
to me
other than shipp;ing.

The increase in performance is great.
Thanks again to Lonnie Prince Propeller Company

Dale
Rebel 295RT




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[Dale Kopff]

----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: prop

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Harper" <rjwh@optusnet.com.au>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: prop

Rick,
I failed to mention, the sensenich prop replaced, was a 74-56 which had a
static rpm of 2400rpm and 2600rpm with full throttle, level flight, 1500msl
(115mph indicated.)

My Rebel is on amphibious floats.

Dale
Rebel 295RT

Rick,
I have a lycoming 0-320, 160hp.
The prop is a 74-42, but because of the shape, it changes pitch (almost
constant speed).
The rpm remains 2500rpm from static to about 80mph.
I have not recorded rate of climb numbers yet.
For more information try www.princeaircraft.com or email:

propellers@aol.com

G'day from OZ Dale !

What engine are you running ? ....... &

What Diameter & Pitch (& Model number etc) Prince prop did you get ?

What do you climb out at ? (speed & VSI reading)

(2800 sounds a tad high - ....... but not for an 0-235 yes ?... we used
to run one)

We bought the wooden Sensenich 76 X 60 that Wayne pointed out to us all
- on E-Bay a while back .... it's a GREAT Cruise prop .... but it's a
bitt too much prop on take off - we only get 2250 - 2300 RPM on climbout
.... pity it's a great prop otherwise & in great condition too !

Thanks !

Rick & Wendy Harper
541R
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Kopff
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Cc: PROPELLERS@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 3:52 AM
Subject: prop


Rebel men,

Last year I replaced my Sensenich prop with a Prince prop which out
performed the Sensenich prop in all areas, plus it is 20 plus pounds
ligher.

I had Prince prop re-pitch my prop to increase my static rpm to
2500rpm
which did not help. Prince prop then made me a new prop which now
gives me
2500 static rpm and 2800 rpm (full power) in level flight, at no cost
to me
other than shipp;ing.

The increase in performance is great.
Thanks again to Lonnie Prince Propeller Company

Dale
Rebel 295RT




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[WALTER KLATT]

Surprised you couldn't get more than 2600 with your 160 hp with the 74X56 Sensenich. I think Bruce G. spins higher with the 150 hp version using that same prop. I use the 74X54 and get 2500 static and 2550 on climb out. It tops out at about 2720 straight and level, again with 150 hp.

I forgot where you are located, Dale, is it BC interior? If so, we should meet up some time next summer. That sounds like an interesting prop, and you should get some good performance with those RPMs, especially top speed.

Next summer, I might try Wayne's trick and let a few more bugs accumulate on the prop and see what that does.

Walter

----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Kopff <dkopff@earthlink.net>
Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 1:30 pm
Subject: Re: prop

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Kopff" <dkopff@earthlink.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: prop

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Harper" <rjwh@optusnet.com.au>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: prop

Rick,
I failed to mention, the sensenich prop replaced, was a 74-56
which had a
static rpm of 2400rpm and 2600rpm with full throttle, level
flight, 1500msl
(115mph indicated.)

My Rebel is on amphibious floats.

Dale
Rebel 295RT

Rick,
I have a lycoming 0-320, 160hp.
The prop is a 74-42, but because of the shape, it changes pitch

(almost> constant speed).

The rpm remains 2500rpm from static to about 80mph.
I have not recorded rate of climb numbers yet.
For more information try www.princeaircraft.com or email:

propellers@aol.com

G'day from OZ Dale !

What engine are you running ? ....... &

What Diameter & Pitch (& Model number etc) Prince prop did you

get ?

What do you climb out at ? (speed & VSI reading)

(2800 sounds a tad high - ....... but not for an 0-235 yes

?... we used

to run one)

We bought the wooden Sensenich 76 X 60 that Wayne pointed out

to us all

- on E-Bay a while back .... it's a GREAT Cruise prop .... but

it's a

bitt too much prop on take off - we only get 2250 - 2300 RPM

on climbout

.... pity it's a great prop otherwise & in great condition

too !

Thanks !

Rick & Wendy Harper
541R
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Kopff
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Cc: PROPELLERS@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 3:52 AM
Subject: prop


Rebel men,

Last year I replaced my Sensenich prop with a Prince prop

which out

performed the Sensenich prop in all areas, plus it is 20

plus pounds

ligher.

I had Prince prop re-pitch my prop to increase my static rpm to
2500rpm
which did not help. Prince prop then made me a new prop

which now

gives me
2500 static rpm and 2800 rpm (full power) in level flight,

at no cost

to me
other than shipp;ing.

The increase in performance is great.
Thanks again to Lonnie Prince Propeller Company

Dale
Rebel 295RT




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[Legeorgen]

I was going to re pitch my 74x56 Sensenich to a 74x54 like Waters, because I
didn't see Walter suffer any speed penalty flying with me last year. But his
rate of climb was better than mine...same 0320 150 HP. Maybe I should
consider the Prince Prop. I wonder how the carbon fiber will stand up on a float
plane?

Bruce




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[Rick Harper]

Thanks Dale !

The wooden prop we bought on E-Bay is a Sensenich 76 X 60 .... and
we cruise at 2500 RPM @ 105 KNOTS (120ish MPH) which is fantastic ......
but our climb out is a bit dissapointing ..... around 1000 FPM , ...
(sooped up (but tired) IO-320 )
But, seeing as how the Rebel has climbout / short field to burn - it
doesn't r...e...a....l...l...y... worry us THAT much !

Rick

Rick,
I failed to mention, the sensenich prop replaced, was a 74-56 which had
a
static rpm of 2400rpm and 2600rpm with full throttle, level flight,
1500msl
(115mph indicated.)

My Rebel is on amphibious floats.

Dale
Rebel 295RT

Rick,
I have a lycoming 0-320, 160hp.
The prop is a 74-42, but because of the shape, it changes pitch

(almost

constant speed).
The rpm remains 2500rpm from static to about 80mph.
I have not recorded rate of climb numbers yet.
For more information try www.princeaircraft.com or email:

propellers@aol.com

G'day from OZ Dale !

What engine are you running ? ....... &

What Diameter & Pitch (& Model number etc) Prince prop did you get ?

What do you climb out at ? (speed & VSI reading)

(2800 sounds a tad high - ....... but not for an 0-235 yes ?... we

used

to run one)

We bought the wooden Sensenich 76 X 60 that Wayne pointed out to us

all

- on E-Bay a while back .... it's a GREAT Cruise prop .... but it's

a

bitt too much prop on take off - we only get 2250 - 2300 RPM on

climbout

.... pity it's a great prop otherwise & in great condition too !

Thanks !

Rick & Wendy Harper
541R
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Kopff
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Cc: PROPELLERS@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 3:52 AM
Subject: prop


Rebel men,

Last year I replaced my Sensenich prop with a Prince prop which

out

performed the Sensenich prop in all areas, plus it is 20 plus

pounds

ligher.

I had Prince prop re-pitch my prop to increase my static rpm to
2500rpm
which did not help. Prince prop then made me a new prop which now
gives me
2500 static rpm and 2800 rpm (full power) in level flight, at no

cost

to me
other than shipp;ing.

The increase in performance is great.
Thanks again to Lonnie Prince Propeller Company

Dale
Rebel 295RT




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[bransom]

While going home from work last night and thinking about the Prince prop
improvement in climb rate, I recalled reading a past EAA thing about an RV-4
guy breaking a record that included climb rate performance. In that article,
the RV guy figured he would gain 3 fpm climb rate for every pound he could
eliminate from the airplane (and/or himself). So, not to take anything away
from the Prince prop's overall design -- in fact it is just another
compliment -- if it is say 22 lbs less than a Sensenich, 22 * 3fpm would
account for a good portion of the improved climb rate! I guess I was just
amusing myself with another example of the importance of low weight.

BTW, I googled for the article in case you're interested: <a
href="http://members.eaa.org/home/flight_repo ... athon.html"> here</a>



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