No, I normally take off with both floats at a time. I
have never had a situation where I needed to raise one
float first. When testing that capability, I had to be
quick, or it would get off before I had a chance to
lift one. That's why I had to power it back to
experiment better with that method.
I don't think you can compare the Rebel take-off to any
Cessna. I was out a few weeks ago solo (loaded to
around 1650 pounds) and took 10 seconds to lift off in
a very light wind (light ripple on the water). Takeoff
times really increase as you load it up, but even then
25 seconds is usually the max when full loaded, unless
you screw up on your sweet spot.
I know in strong winds, I have done better than 10
seconds when solo, but it is hard to get an accurate
timing when you are by yourself. Everything happens
pretty fast then, and you can't be just looking at your
watch while taking off.
Some time in the summer, I'll get my wife or someone to
video tape me during some higher wind take-offs, and
will get some accurate timings. My bet is that it will
be no more than 8 seconds, maybe even 7 or 6. I do
remember sometimes getting airborne almost immediately
after getting on the step, so it can happen really fast
in high winds.
Walter
-----Original Message-----
From:
mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:
mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Drew Dalgleish
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 11:08 AM
To:
murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: Rebel on Floats
Thanks Walter
I think I'm going to go the lazy route and
stick with the plans. I spent
most of the day yesterday trimming the ends
of my spreader bars so I don't
want to do that again. It sure would have
been nice if murphy had of done
the mitre cut at the factory. Do you
normally take off both floats at once
or lift one out before the other. I did
almost all my float training in a
very tired 172 the only way to get it off
the water was one float at a time.
Drew
At 10:31 AM 3/23/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Haven't seen anyone reply to this yet, so
will offer my
understanding and opinion.
Pros on shorter float struts:
- Fit into hangar better.
- May allow easier lift off on water with
one wing and
float raised first, due to narrower stance.
- Less drag and weight, so speed should be better.
Cons on shorter float struts and resulting narrower
stance:
- Prop is closer to water, so may get more erosion.
- Narrower stance can cause more instability in high
winds and waves.
- You'll have to duck a little more when
walking under
the wing at a dock... ;>)
Steve Sloan is the guy who has this set-up, and can
provide first hand experience.
On the lifting of one float first, one of the local
guys building floats here wanted to go fly
with me to
test how easily the Rebel lifted off the
water with one
float. He had also heard about this, and
wanted to see
how mine worked. We loaded her up to "full
load plus"
and tried it on glassy water. I had no
trouble lifting
it off with one float and wing first, and
even tried it
at lower power setting take-offs, and it
still worked
fine. Of course, it may still work even better with
shorter struts, but that was my experience.
Walter
-----Original Message-----
From:
mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:
mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Drew Dalgleish
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:39 PM
To:
murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rebel on Floats
What is the advantage of shortening your
float struts? Is there any
disadvantage? I'm just getting ready to
instal my floats.
Drew
At 09:26 AM 3/21/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Info on Rebel on floats, but I
having a "blonde" moment. What I
mounted on 1800 amphibs.-When sitting
this as I need to check my hanger
drawing with mention of dimensions on
this from MAM on July 28 2000. If you
Miscellaneous -
concerning reducing the length of the
inches lower.
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