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[rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm
by mike jones
I got a Murphy tail wheel and will see cheap to get ride of it if you want
it

Cheers

Mike#007

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Subject: [rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

I need to replace my standard tailwheel assembly on my Rotax 100h.p.
Murphy Rebel
What would you guys suggest is the best value for money replacement?

Many Thanks

Bob Watson

Scotland





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[rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm
by Drew Dalgleish
At 04:26 PM 11/03/2009 -0800, you wrote:
I need to replace my standard tailwheel assembly on my Rotax 100h.p.
Murphy Rebel
What would you guys suggest is the best value for money replacement?

Many Thanks

Bob Watson

Scotland
Do you have access to a lathe? I built a tailwheel from plans by Bob
Barrows for under $50. Ken reported recently that his Matco wheel is
working well or I can sell my old murphy wheel cheap.
Drew



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[rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm
by N.Smith
Hi Bob
You just bought TK ? :-)
There's quite a few mentions of the Scott tail wheel in the archives,
although I've not done it myself.
Nigel
745E
England

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Subject: [rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

I need to replace my standard tailwheel assembly on my Rotax 100h.p.
Murphy Rebel
What would you guys suggest is the best value for money replacement?

Many Thanks

Bob Watson

Scotland





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[rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm
by Keith Oliver
Speaking of tailwheels......What is the opinion/assessment of the tailwheel
for the Elite ?

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Hi Bob
You just bought TK ? :-)
There's quite a few mentions of the Scott tail wheel in the archives,
although I've not done it myself.
Nigel
745E
England

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Subject: [rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

I need to replace my standard tailwheel assembly on my Rotax 100h.p.
Murphy Rebel
What would you guys suggest is the best value for money replacement?

Many Thanks

Bob Watson

Scotland





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[rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm
by N.Smith
Hi Keith
I'm still building, but the Elite supplied wheel seems more substantial than
the rebel one I saw a few years ago. Having said that, mine still needed to
be dismantled and greased up fully to get a nice free feel to the mechanism.
Still a while away from being able to taxi and see what it behaves like
though.
Nig
745E

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Oliver
Sent: 12 March 2009 14:24
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

Speaking of tailwheels......What is the opinion/assessment of the tailwheel
for the Elite ?

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N.Smith
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:59 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?


Hi Bob
You just bought TK ? :-)
There's quite a few mentions of the Scott tail wheel in the archives,
although I've not done it myself.
Nigel
745E
England

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Sent: 12 March 2009 00:27
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

I need to replace my standard tailwheel assembly on my Rotax 100h.p.
Murphy Rebel
What would you guys suggest is the best value for money replacement?

Many Thanks

Bob Watson

Scotland





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[rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm
by henri monnin
Best tailwheel,

[rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm
by bransom
The tailwheel debate comes up from time to time, but I don't recall ever
hearing directly about a Rebel groundloop. Henri, if you don't mind
elaborating ...what was it about the Rebel tailwheel that helped lead to a
ground loop?
-Ben/ 496R

On 3/12/2009 1:11 PM, hmonnin2000@yahoo.com wrote to rebel-builders:
[quote]Best tailwheel,

[rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm
by Mike Betti
I have the upgraded Elite tail wheel on my Elite and I like it. Like Ralph
said there is an issue with the mounting on an Elite. Mine is angled what
appears to be backward in my thinking. The only problem I have is if the
wheel is reversed and I need to lock it back in, I don't have enough brake,
but that's a brake issue. It is now a habit for me to just straighten the
wheel to it's normal position after moving the aircraft by hand. I usually
keep it well greased too so it breaks easier. I think it's perfect.
Mike Betti
771ME

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Oliver
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:24 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

Speaking of tailwheels......What is the opinion/assessment of the tailwheel
for the Elite ?

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
N.Smith
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:59 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?


Hi Bob
You just bought TK ? :-)
There's quite a few mentions of the Scott tail wheel in the archives,
although I've not done it myself.
Nigel
745E
England

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
rwatson@dcsol.com
Sent: 12 March 2009 00:27
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

I need to replace my standard tailwheel assembly on my Rotax 100h.p.
Murphy Rebel
What would you guys suggest is the best value for money replacement?

Many Thanks

Bob Watson

Scotland





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[rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm
by bransom
Drew
I'm interested. Can you point me to more info on this?

Thanks,
-Ben/496R
bransom@ucdavis.edu
Do you have access to a lathe? I built a tailwheel from plans by Bob
Barrows for under $50. Ken reported recently that his Matco wheel is
working well or I can sell my old murphy wheel cheap.
Drew


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[rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm
by Kevin & Nancy Mayville
I purchased a 6'' Matco pneumatic tail wheel to replace the solid wheel that
came with the kit. I have yet to install it since I think I have to replace
the spring since it has a single mounting hole ( compared to the one I have
with is mounted with two bolts ) and I don't think I can redrill the spring.
I like the looks of the Matco wheel and a friend had a solid Matco on his
T18 which worked fine.I think the pneumatic will help smooth the bumps out
of taxing on the asphalt.

Kevin Mayville
C-FRFP

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From: <bransom@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

The tailwheel debate comes up from time to time, but I don't recall ever
hearing directly about a Rebel groundloop. Henri, if you don't mind
elaborating ...what was it about the Rebel tailwheel that helped lead to a
ground loop?
-Ben/ 496R

On 3/12/2009 1:11 PM, hmonnin2000@yahoo.com wrote to rebel-builders:
Best tailwheel,

I did not like the way the tailwheel was responding on my Rebel and after
experiencing a couple of ground loops, I changed it to an Alaskan
Bushwheel
P# ABI-3200. It is comparable to the Scott tailwheel but less expensive.
Henri
Canada

--- On Wed, 3/11/09, rwatson@dcsol.com <rwatson@dcsol.com> wrote:

From: rwatson@dcsol.com <rwatson@dcsol.com>
Subject: [rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 5:26 PM

I need to replace my standard tailwheel assembly on my Rotax 100h.p.
Murphy Rebel
What would you guys suggest is the best value for money replacement?

Many Thanks

Bob Watson

Scotland





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[rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm
by Ken
I looked at that seriously but the Matco 8" with the same tire and tube
as the Scott 3200 was cheaper at around US$220, ready made, and works
fine as per my previous post. Matco said some Bearhawks use it and it is
good for 700 lbs tail weight. The large sweepback on the Barrows will
load the tailspring more which might be a concern if using the
fibreglass spring. The Barrows uses ball bearings instead of bronze
bushings to swivel but some friction is needed there anyway and the
Matco lets you adjust it.

I believe a google on Bob Barrows tailwheel or Bearhawk tailwheel will
find the one Drew mentioned.

Ken

bransom@dcsol.com wrote:
Drew
I'm interested. Can you point me to more info on this?

Thanks,
-Ben/496R
bransom@ucdavis.edu
Do you have access to a lathe? I built a tailwheel from plans by Bob
Barrows for under $50. Ken reported recently that his Matco wheel is
working well or I can sell my old murphy wheel cheap.
Drew


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[rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm
by Joe Ronco
BEN: Here is a link to buy the drawings.



http://bearhawkpatrol.tripod.com/bearhawk/id3.html



Here is another link to see what the Barrows tail wheel looks like
readymade.



http://www.irondesign-airparts.com/



Hope this helps.



Joe Ronco



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Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:12 PM
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Drew

I'm interested. Can you point me to more info on this?



Thanks,

-Ben/496R

bransom@ucdavis.edu



Do you have access to a lathe? I built a tailwheel from plans by Bob
Barrows for under $50. Ken reported recently that his Matco wheel is
working well or I can sell my old murphy wheel cheap.
Drew







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[rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm
by Ron Shannon
FWIW, The Bob Barrows design wheel is made commercially by
http://www.irondesign-airparts.com<http://www.irondesign-airparts.com/Tailwheels.htm>
The price has gone up a bit since I got mine two and half years ago, they're
now $643 complete. I haven't taxied or flown it yet, but the quality is
superb. I have it on a slightly modified Champ tailspring. I'm looking
forward to a Cadillac ride. :-)

Ron
254R


On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Ken <klehman@albedo.net> wrote:
I looked at that seriously but the Matco 8" with the same tire and tube
as the Scott 3200 was cheaper at around US$220, ready made, and works
fine as per my previous post. Matco said some Bearhawks use it and it is
good for 700 lbs tail weight. The large sweepback on the Barrows will
load the tailspring more which might be a concern if using the
fibreglass spring. The Barrows uses ball bearings instead of bronze
bushings to swivel but some friction is needed there anyway and the
Matco lets you adjust it.

I believe a google on Bob Barrows tailwheel or Bearhawk tailwheel will
find the one Drew mentioned.

Ken


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[rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm
by Ian Donaldson
G'day from Australia

I would just like to offer these experiences that I had with the standard MAM
tail wheel.

Despite my best efforts at care and maintenance the assembly wore quickly and
eventually broke. The steering arm, where the rudder cables are connected became
disconnected from the main shaft and of course it caused a monumental ground
loop, but thankfully there wasn

[rebel-builders] Best Tailwheel ?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm
by Drew Dalgleish
Others have pointed out the link. I should add that mine was so cheap
because I was able to find some scrap steel and I'm using one of the
nosewheels off my floats for the rim and tire. The drawings were $25 and
are well worth it just to see how it's made.

At 05:12 PM 12/03/2009 -0800, you wrote:
Drew
I'm interested. Can you point me to more info on this?

Thanks,
-Ben/496R
bransom@ucdavis.edu
Do you have access to a lathe? I built a tailwheel from plans by Bob
Barrows for under $50. Ken reported recently that his Matco wheel is
working well or I can sell my old murphy wheel cheap.
Drew


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Drew



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