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[rebel-builders] RE: Elite

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:15 pm
by Wayne G. O'Shea
Great to hear from you Mike.. and as for the brake pads I run up against
that in many of the non-certified brake parts that come thru my hangar and
that's usually my first step on pad replacement. Counterbores on the holes
so standard pad rivets work for all subsequent pad replacements.... so that
the owner isn't caught/stuck in the middle of no where with an oddball.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <bransom@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:15 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] RE: Elite

Hi Mike
Nice to hear from you. I remember you as one who started building after
me
and zoomed right past. I'm still enjoying the process though and never
did
plan on getting it done quick. I'm getting there. Let us know of some
good flying destinations if you get a chance -- include pictures!
-Ben/ 496R

On 2/13/2009 4:55 PM, mbetti@hughes.net wrote to rebel-builders:
Hi builders,

I been out of touch with the group for a year and a half and had to see
how
it was going out there. I been in contact with a couple builders since
and
discussed some problems.

My Elite now has been flying for 2 years and about 110 hours. It is such
a
great airplane! It seems to have the best of both worlds in short field
and
cruise. I add VG's to it about a year ago which knocked 10 mph off my
stall.


I still don't have the greatest brakes, maybe ok for a tail dragger but
wish
I had a bit more. I believe the problem is inadequate brake pressure due
to
geometry, but I haven't measured it with a gauge yet. I did recently
replace
my pads and found out for some reason I can't get long enough rivets.
Does
anybody know what the deal is here. My back plates are aluminum and about
twice as thick as the steel ones in certified aircraft. I ended up
machine
countersinking the rivets deeper into the backplate so that standard
rivets
would work. Maybe I weakened them by doing this?

I see some disappointment with MAM in some recent letters, I used to get
frustrated too when I was building. Hang in there the airplane is great
and
worth the effort.

Mike Betti

N771ME



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[rebel-builders] RE: Elite

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:15 pm
by Mike Betti
Hi Wayne,
I'm glad to hear the counterboring doesn't seem to be an issue.
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:50 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] RE: Elite

Great to hear from you Mike.. and as for the brake pads I run up against
that in many of the non-certified brake parts that come thru my hangar and
that's usually my first step on pad replacement. Counterbores on the holes
so standard pad rivets work for all subsequent pad replacements.... so that
the owner isn't caught/stuck in the middle of no where with an oddball.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <bransom@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:15 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] RE: Elite

Hi Mike
Nice to hear from you. I remember you as one who started building after
me
and zoomed right past. I'm still enjoying the process though and never
did
plan on getting it done quick. I'm getting there. Let us know of some
good flying destinations if you get a chance -- include pictures!
-Ben/ 496R

On 2/13/2009 4:55 PM, mbetti@hughes.net wrote to rebel-builders:
Hi builders,

I been out of touch with the group for a year and a half and had to see
how
it was going out there. I been in contact with a couple builders since
and
discussed some problems.

My Elite now has been flying for 2 years and about 110 hours. It is such
a
great airplane! It seems to have the best of both worlds in short field
and
cruise. I add VG's to it about a year ago which knocked 10 mph off my
stall.


I still don't have the greatest brakes, maybe ok for a tail dragger but
wish
I had a bit more. I believe the problem is inadequate brake pressure due
to
geometry, but I haven't measured it with a gauge yet. I did recently
replace
my pads and found out for some reason I can't get long enough rivets.
Does
anybody know what the deal is here. My back plates are aluminum and about
twice as thick as the steel ones in certified aircraft. I ended up
machine
countersinking the rivets deeper into the backplate so that standard
rivets
would work. Maybe I weakened them by doing this?

I see some disappointment with MAM in some recent letters, I used to get
frustrated too when I was building. Hang in there the airplane is great
and
worth the effort.

Mike Betti

N771ME



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