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I just made my wing strut fairings. I made small versions that do not cover
the rows of attach fitting bolts. I'm on amphib floats, so the extra drag of
the bolts is not an issue.

First I made a paper template, then scrap aluminum...then final (maybe
twice). Same template in reverse worked well on other side. A similar shape
would work for a longer bolt-covering fairing.

I uploaded two pictures in the Elite Builders Fairing section showing the
templates and final install. The photo of the template should give you a
good start on creating your own.

I can try and scan the paper template and email. Let me know.

Eric Fogelin
Elite 645


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OLIVER
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Was wondering if anyone has a template for the strut fairing
both wing and
fuselage

Keith Oliver
Elite 654
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That's just what I am looking to do
If not to much trouble the email would be great
Thanks

kboliver47@roadrunner.com



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Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] strut fairings


I just made my wing strut fairings. I made small versions that do not cover
the rows of attach fitting bolts. I'm on amphib floats, so the extra drag of
the bolts is not an issue.

First I made a paper template, then scrap aluminum...then final (maybe
twice). Same template in reverse worked well on other side. A similar shape
would work for a longer bolt-covering fairing.

I uploaded two pictures in the Elite Builders Fairing section showing the
templates and final install. The photo of the template should give you a
good start on creating your own.

I can try and scan the paper template and email. Let me know.

Eric Fogelin
Elite 645


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OLIVER
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Was wondering if anyone has a template for the strut fairing
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fuselage

Keith Oliver
Elite 654
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I'll pick up the templates from the hangar, scan and post tomorrow.

Eric

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Oliver
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Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] strut fairings

That's just what I am looking to do
If not to much trouble the email would be great
Thanks

kboliver47@roadrunner.com



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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Eric Fogelin
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:37 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] strut fairings


I just made my wing strut fairings. I made small versions that do not cover
the rows of attach fitting bolts. I'm on amphib floats, so the extra drag of
the bolts is not an issue.

First I made a paper template, then scrap aluminum...then final (maybe
twice). Same template in reverse worked well on other side. A similar shape
would work for a longer bolt-covering fairing.

I uploaded two pictures in the Elite Builders Fairing section showing the
templates and final install. The photo of the template should give you a
good start on creating your own.

I can try and scan the paper template and email. Let me know.

Eric Fogelin
Elite 645


-----Original Message-----
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OLIVER
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To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
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Was wondering if anyone has a template for the strut fairing
both wing and
fuselage

Keith Oliver
Elite 654
Maine




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Let me know too, I could use pretty soon as wings will be on soon now
that have started building again

Finall y put tail wheel on so its totally on the gear, looks great

Mike#007

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Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] strut fairings

I'll pick up the templates from the hangar, scan and post tomorrow.

Eric

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Oliver
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Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] strut fairings

That's just what I am looking to do
If not to much trouble the email would be great
Thanks

kboliver47@roadrunner.com



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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Eric Fogelin
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:37 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] strut fairings


I just made my wing strut fairings. I made small versions that do not
cover
the rows of attach fitting bolts. I'm on amphib floats, so the extra
drag of
the bolts is not an issue.

First I made a paper template, then scrap aluminum...then final (maybe
twice). Same template in reverse worked well on other side. A similar
shape
would work for a longer bolt-covering fairing.

I uploaded two pictures in the Elite Builders Fairing section showing
the
templates and final install. The photo of the template should give you a
good start on creating your own.

I can try and scan the paper template and email. Let me know.

Eric Fogelin
Elite 645


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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
KEITH
OLIVER
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 5:08 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] strut fairings



Was wondering if anyone has a template for the strut
fairing
both wing and
fuselage

Keith Oliver
Elite 654
Maine




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I uploaded images of the template as well as an outline to the Elite Fairing
section. Both images have scales to help if you try to print the images for
cutting your test template. I would still start with scrap light cardboard
and scrap .016 aluminum.

Eric Fogelin
Elite 645


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Michael
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:19 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] strut fairings

Let me know too, I could use pretty soon as wings will be on soon now
that have started building again

Finall y put tail wheel on so its totally on the gear, looks great

Mike#007

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Eric Fogelin
Sent: October 20, 2008 11:56 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] strut fairings

I'll pick up the templates from the hangar, scan and post tomorrow.

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Keith
Oliver
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:25 PM
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Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] strut fairings

That's just what I am looking to do
If not to much trouble the email would be great
Thanks

kboliver47@roadrunner.com



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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Eric Fogelin
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:37 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] strut fairings


I just made my wing strut fairings. I made small versions that do not
cover
the rows of attach fitting bolts. I'm on amphib floats, so the extra
drag of
the bolts is not an issue.

First I made a paper template, then scrap aluminum...then final (maybe
twice). Same template in reverse worked well on other side. A similar
shape
would work for a longer bolt-covering fairing.

I uploaded two pictures in the Elite Builders Fairing section showing
the
templates and final install. The photo of the template should give you a
good start on creating your own.

I can try and scan the paper template and email. Let me know.

Eric Fogelin
Elite 645


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
KEITH
OLIVER
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 5:08 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] strut fairings



Was wondering if anyone has a template for the strut
fairing
both wing and
fuselage

Keith Oliver
Elite 654
Maine




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I had some spare time while I wait for my first flight. Had my FAA
inspection a few days ago and I'm the proud owner of an Airworthiness
Certificate.

So, I made the lower wing strut fairings that touch the fuselage. Wasn't
planning to, as the float rigging doesn't draw attention to the lack of
fairing. But, it does look better with the lower wing strut fairing in
place.

I placed a photo of the fairing and the template in the Elite - Fairing
section.

First flight Sunday or Monday.

Eric Fogelin
Elite 645

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Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 7:05 PM
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Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] strut fairings

I uploaded images of the template as well as an outline to the Elite Fairing
section. Both images have scales to help if you try to print the images for
cutting your test template. I would still start with scrap light cardboard
and scrap .016 aluminum.

Eric Fogelin
Elite 645


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Jones,
Michael
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:19 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] strut fairings

Let me know too, I could use pretty soon as wings will be on soon now
that have started building again

Finall y put tail wheel on so its totally on the gear, looks great

Mike#007

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Eric Fogelin
Sent: October 20, 2008 11:56 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] strut fairings

I'll pick up the templates from the hangar, scan and post tomorrow.

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Keith
Oliver
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:25 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] strut fairings

That's just what I am looking to do
If not to much trouble the email would be great
Thanks

kboliver47@roadrunner.com



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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Eric Fogelin
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:37 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] strut fairings


I just made my wing strut fairings. I made small versions that do not
cover
the rows of attach fitting bolts. I'm on amphib floats, so the extra
drag of
the bolts is not an issue.

First I made a paper template, then scrap aluminum...then final (maybe
twice). Same template in reverse worked well on other side. A similar
shape
would work for a longer bolt-covering fairing.

I uploaded two pictures in the Elite Builders Fairing section showing
the
templates and final install. The photo of the template should give you a
good start on creating your own.

I can try and scan the paper template and email. Let me know.

Eric Fogelin
Elite 645


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
KEITH
OLIVER
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 5:08 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] strut fairings



Was wondering if anyone has a template for the strut
fairing
both wing and
fuselage

Keith Oliver
Elite 654
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Whoever posted the strut fairing pictures I'd like to ask are you flying
and if so how do you keep those rubber channels from blowing loose? I have
the same rubbers on my fairings and I have had a hell of a time keeping
them in place. I've tried glueing them on with everything I can think of
including pro-seal nothing has worked for more than a few hours.
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Drew,

Did you ever get an answer to this query re rubber channel attachment? I
don't see anything following this in the archives.

Ron


On 11/11/2008 4:58 PM, drewjan@cabletv.on.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Whoever posted the strut fairing pictures I'd like to ask are you flying
-> and if so how do you keep those rubber channels from blowing loose? I have
-> the same rubbers on my fairings and I have had a hell of a time keeping
-> them in place. I've tried glueing them on with everything I can think of
-> including pro-seal nothing has worked for more than a few hours.
-> Drew




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I have them on mine, and they are held in place just by friction, between
the mating surfaces.

Walter

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rshannon@dcsol.com
Sent: February 23, 2009 5:25 PM
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Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] strut fairings

Drew,

Did you ever get an answer to this query re rubber channel attachment? I
don't see anything following this in the archives.

Ron


On 11/11/2008 4:58 PM, drewjan@cabletv.on.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Whoever posted the strut fairing pictures I'd like to ask are you flying
-> and if so how do you keep those rubber channels from blowing loose? I
have
-> the same rubbers on my fairings and I have had a hell of a time keeping
-> them in place. I've tried glueing them on with everything I can think of
-> including pro-seal nothing has worked for more than a few hours.
-> Drew




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Hi Ron No I never got any replies on that thread but I have had a bit of
sucess keeping them on since then by using a strip of duct tape on the
inside that overlaps the rubber and the fairing. Actually the strut
fairings don't come loose that often but I have the same rubbers on my wing
root fairings at the front where it buts up against the windshield and they
come loose regularly. Scared the hell out of me the first time, made a
precautionary landing just to figure out what the heck was going on.

At 04:25 PM 23/02/2009 -0900, you wrote:

Drew,

Did you ever get an answer to this query re rubber channel attachment? I
don't see anything following this in the archives.

Ron


On 11/11/2008 4:58 PM, drewjan@cabletv.on.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Whoever posted the strut fairing pictures I'd like to ask are you flying
-> and if so how do you keep those rubber channels from blowing loose? I have
-> the same rubbers on my fairings and I have had a hell of a time keeping
-> them in place. I've tried glueing them on with everything I can think of
-> including pro-seal nothing has worked for more than a few hours.
-> Drew

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At 05:58 PM 23/02/2009 -0800, you wrote:

I have them on mine, and they are held in place just by friction, between
the mating surfaces.

Walter

I guess I shouldn't have polished so much. Not enough friction ;-)
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Drew Dalgleish <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca>wrote:

...

I guess I shouldn't have polished so much. Not enough friction ;-)
Drew

LOL. I've used rubber channel for wire chafe protection in numerous places
behind the panel, where I've attached it will a dab of clear RTV every inch
or so... but with inconsistent results. So I'm curious what others have used
at the fairings, where the channel is exposed to more forces than it is
behind my panel... I hope! :-)

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Hi Drew !

I just opened up the rubber channel & brushed in some
rubber cement (from Staples) - also put some on the fairing.
That solved the problem !

You might be able to get deeper channel from Spaenaur ...

LOL ! Know what you mean about the scare - had mine
come loose on the wing root fairing years ago. It banged
on the cabin roof, and I thought the engine was throwing
a rod !!! Turned back & landed quickly .... That's when
I decided to try rubber cement.

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On Tuesday 24 February 2009 04:56, Drew Dalgleish wrote:

Hi Ron No I never got any replies on that thread but I have had a bit of
sucess keeping them on since then by using a strip of duct tape on the
inside that overlaps the rubber and the fairing. Actually the strut
fairings don't come loose that often but I have the same rubbers on my
wing root fairings at the front where it buts up against the windshield
and they come loose regularly. Scared the hell out of me the first time,
made a precautionary landing just to figure out what the heck was going
on.

At 04:25 PM 23/02/2009 -0900, you wrote:

Drew,

Did you ever get an answer to this query re rubber channel attachment? I
don't see anything following this in the archives.

Ron


On 11/11/2008 4:58 PM, drewjan@cabletv.on.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Whoever posted the strut fairing pictures I'd like to ask are you
flying -> and if so how do you keep those rubber channels from blowing
loose? I have -> the same rubbers on my fairings and I have had a hell
of a time keeping -> them in place. I've tried glueing them on with
everything I can think of -> including pro-seal nothing has worked for
more than a few hours. -> Drew

Drew

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Sorry Drew, I missed this whole thread.

I posted the fairing pictures and used contact cement to hold the rubber
channel in place. They are still holding strong after 45 hours of flight.

Eric

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Drew
Dalgleish
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:56 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] strut fairings

Hi Ron No I never got any replies on that thread but I have had a bit of
sucess keeping them on since then by using a strip of duct tape on the
inside that overlaps the rubber and the fairing. Actually the strut
fairings don't come loose that often but I have the same rubbers on my wing
root fairings at the front where it buts up against the windshield and they
come loose regularly. Scared the hell out of me the first time, made a
precautionary landing just to figure out what the heck was going on.

At 04:25 PM 23/02/2009 -0900, you wrote:

Drew,

Did you ever get an answer to this query re rubber channel attachment? I
don't see anything following this in the archives.

Ron


On 11/11/2008 4:58 PM, drewjan@cabletv.on.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Whoever posted the strut fairing pictures I'd like to ask are you flying
-> and if so how do you keep those rubber channels from blowing loose? I

have

-> the same rubbers on my fairings and I have had a hell of a time keeping
-> them in place. I've tried glueing them on with everything I can think of
-> including pro-seal nothing has worked for more than a few hours.
-> Drew

Drew



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At 08:54 AM 24/02/2009 -0800, you wrote:

Sorry Drew, I missed this whole thread.

I posted the fairing pictures and used contact cement to hold the rubber
channel in place. They are still holding strong after 45 hours of flight.

Eric

Thanks Eric and Bob I tried contact cement but I probably didn't prep the
metal well enough. The duct tape is holding for now so I'll wait till it
fails and try contact cement again. Today was a beautiful day for flying I
got out for an hour of checking out the snow drifts north of goderich and
spotting a deer and some turkeys.
Drew



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