[rebel-builders] Float Troubles

[Drew Dalgleish]

At 04:20 AM 2/25/2008 -0900, you wrote:

I just uploaded two photos in the rebel float section of the files. This is
a rebel on amphibs that's currently for sale here in Alaska. One photo is
obvious damage above the attach point and the builder's or someone's fix
(all four attach points are like this). Is this the corner wrap flex/damage
I've been reading about in our forum? What do you think was or wasn't done
during the build?



The other photo is of the tail section; the fin and rudder are obviously not
of rebel descent although I can't tell what it might have come from. The
owner flew it up from Fl last summer and left it on consignment. He was
asking 77,000 but now it's down to 72,000, I think. It looks a little rough
and I'm pretty sure both tanks are leaking.

Hi craig It looks like he might have had a very hard landing normally the
rear attach points punch in right at the corner not up the side like that.
I'd be really concerned if the front attach points show damage because
that's also the main carry through for the wings. It looks to me like the
fin and rudder are rebel parts but he made a different rudder tip. What
does seem weird in the tail picture is that the elevators aren't even with
the tips and they don't come back as far as the rudder. Maybe he shortened
the cord on the stabilizer because from the picture angle it looks like the
stabilizer struts are swept forward instead of being straight. I also see
that he split the flaps and ailerons which is generally felt to be an
undesirable mod. It's probably repairable for not a huge investment in
parts but the value of the plane really depends on te condition of the
engine and what avionics are installed. If you could put up a couple more
pictures of the tail from different angles and close ups of the front and
rear attach points it would help.
Drew



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[Craig Walls]

Drew,

I'm not interested in buying it. I'm on this wild roller coaster ride
called building! I just was wondering about the damage where the floats
attach. I have looked at many rebel photos at airliners.net and it seems
like there are many with crinkled sheet metal in the area below the doors.
Is that a common weak area?

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Drew
Dalgleish
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 5:09 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Float Troubles

At 04:20 AM 2/25/2008 -0900, you wrote:

I just uploaded two photos in the rebel float section of the files. This

is

a rebel on amphibs that's currently for sale here in Alaska. One photo is
obvious damage above the attach point and the builder's or someone's fix
(all four attach points are like this). Is this the corner wrap

flex/damage

I've been reading about in our forum? What do you think was or wasn't done
during the build?



The other photo is of the tail section; the fin and rudder are obviously

not

of rebel descent although I can't tell what it might have come from. The
owner flew it up from Fl last summer and left it on consignment. He was
asking 77,000 but now it's down to 72,000, I think. It looks a little

rough

and I'm pretty sure both tanks are leaking.

Hi craig It looks like he might have had a very hard landing normally the
rear attach points punch in right at the corner not up the side like that.
I'd be really concerned if the front attach points show damage because
that's also the main carry through for the wings. It looks to me like the
fin and rudder are rebel parts but he made a different rudder tip. What
does seem weird in the tail picture is that the elevators aren't even with
the tips and they don't come back as far as the rudder. Maybe he shortened
the cord on the stabilizer because from the picture angle it looks like the
stabilizer struts are swept forward instead of being straight. I also see
that he split the flaps and ailerons which is generally felt to be an
undesirable mod. It's probably repairable for not a huge investment in
parts but the value of the plane really depends on te condition of the
engine and what avionics are installed. If you could put up a couple more
pictures of the tail from different angles and close ups of the front and
rear attach points it would help.
Drew



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[Drew Dalgleish]

Hi Craig Since you posted the price I thought you might be interested.
Below the door is a weak area and I wrinkled mine on one side with a really
bad landing in the first 5 hours after I finished it. I replaced the skin
below the door and put in a heavier door sill. I bought enough to do both
sides but after 400 hours I still haven't needed to do the other side. If I
had known I would have used heavier material for the skin but that all
happened before this list came along. As Bob says the tail wrap is another
weak spot. I looked at how much rework would be needed to upgrade mine and
decided to wait until it cracks. Way better to do it during the build
before all the stabilizer mounts are made.

At 02:36 PM 2/27/2008 -0900, you wrote:

Drew,

I'm not interested in buying it. I'm on this wild roller coaster ride
called building! I just was wondering about the damage where the floats
attach. I have looked at many rebel photos at airliners.net and it seems
like there are many with crinkled sheet metal in the area below the doors.
Is that a common weak area?

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Drew
Dalgleish
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 5:09 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Float Troubles

At 04:20 AM 2/25/2008 -0900, you wrote:

I just uploaded two photos in the rebel float section of the files. This

is

a rebel on amphibs that's currently for sale here in Alaska. One photo is
obvious damage above the attach point and the builder's or someone's fix
(all four attach points are like this). Is this the corner wrap

flex/damage

I've been reading about in our forum? What do you think was or wasn't done
during the build?



The other photo is of the tail section; the fin and rudder are obviously

not

of rebel descent although I can't tell what it might have come from. The
owner flew it up from Fl last summer and left it on consignment. He was
asking 77,000 but now it's down to 72,000, I think. It looks a little

rough

and I'm pretty sure both tanks are leaking.

Hi craig It looks like he might have had a very hard landing normally the
rear attach points punch in right at the corner not up the side like that.
I'd be really concerned if the front attach points show damage because
that's also the main carry through for the wings. It looks to me like the
fin and rudder are rebel parts but he made a different rudder tip. What
does seem weird in the tail picture is that the elevators aren't even with
the tips and they don't come back as far as the rudder. Maybe he shortened
the cord on the stabilizer because from the picture angle it looks like the
stabilizer struts are swept forward instead of being straight. I also see
that he split the flaps and ailerons which is generally felt to be an
undesirable mod. It's probably repairable for not a huge investment in
parts but the value of the plane really depends on te condition of the
engine and what avionics are installed. If you could put up a couple more
pictures of the tail from different angles and close ups of the front and
rear attach points it would help.
Drew



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