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Garry, I don't pause with mine, but not to say that a pause wouldn't help.
Out of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which just means
it takes more. I usually take about 20 to 25 these days. Could also be that
my seals are not as tight anymore. I don't think the mounting height has
much to do with it.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
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Wright
Sent: December 16, 2007 6:31 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time

Being a classic type A, I seem to want to pump quickly on the amphibs to
cycle them but find I need to pause at the top of the stroke to allow a
1/2 second or so for the pump to fill itself. Does anyone else have this
phenom or does it sound like I have an restriction? Might it be because
the reservoir is mounted too low (test situation - not in plane)?

Garry



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You got me, Wayne, LOL... But of course only you would catch that...

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G. O'Shea
Sent: December 16, 2007 8:37 AM
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I'm not even gonna touch that one Bud ! HAHAHAHA

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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:38 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time


Out of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which just
means
it takes more. I usually take about 20 to 25 these days. Could also be
that
my seals are not as tight anymore. I don't think the mounting height has
much to do with it.

Walter






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You got me, Wayne, LOL... But of course only you would catch that...

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G. O'Shea
Sent: December 16, 2007 8:37 AM
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Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time

I'm not even gonna touch that one Bud ! HAHAHAHA

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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:38 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time


Out of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which just
means
it takes more. I usually take about 20 to 25 these days. Could also be
that
my seals are not as tight anymore. I don't think the mounting height has
much to do with it.

Walter






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Yeah, thanks, and now that you've pointed it out to the world, I am sure
there is lots more of ROFL going on. Will have to getcha for this one,
Wayne..., someday, somewhere...

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Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: December 16, 2007 8:48 AM
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Got my 23 yr old daughter, her boyfriend and my wife here. Told them "if
you

didn't know what this paragraph was about" and then read it too them and
had

tears in their eyes laughing !

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:43 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time

You got me, Wayne, LOL... But of course only you would catch that...

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Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: December 16, 2007 8:37 AM
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Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time

I'm not even gonna touch that one Bud ! HAHAHAHA

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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:38 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time


Out of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which just
means
it takes more. I usually take about 20 to 25 these days. Could also be
that
my seals are not as tight anymore. I don't think the mounting height has
much to do with it.

Walter






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Got my 23 yr old daughter, her boyfriend and my wife here. Told them "if you
didn't know what this paragraph was about" and then read it too them and had
tears in their eyes laughing !

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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:43 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time

You got me, Wayne, LOL... But of course only you would catch that...

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Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: December 16, 2007 8:37 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time

I'm not even gonna touch that one Bud ! HAHAHAHA

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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:38 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time


Out of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which just
means
it takes more. I usually take about 20 to 25 these days. Could also be
that
my seals are not as tight anymore. I don't think the mounting height has
much to do with it.

Walter






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Being a classic type A, I seem to want to pump quickly on the amphibs to
cycle them but find I need to pause at the top of the stroke to allow a
1/2 second or so for the pump to fill itself. Does anyone else have this
phenom or does it sound like I have an restriction? Might it be because
the reservoir is mounted too low (test situation - not in plane)?

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From: Walter Klatt <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:38:40 -0800

Garry, I don't pause with mine, but not to say that a pause wouldn't help.
Out of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which just means
it takes more. I usually take about 20 to 25 these days. Could also be that
my seals are not as tight anymore. I don't think the mounting height has
much to do with it.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Garry
Wright
Sent: December 16, 2007 6:31 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time

Being a classic type A, I seem to want to pump quickly on the amphibs to
cycle them but find I need to pause at the top of the stroke to allow a
1/2 second or so for the pump to fill itself. Does anyone else have this
phenom or does it sound like I have an restriction? Might it be because
the reservoir is mounted too low (test situation - not in plane)?

Garry



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IT TAKES ABOUT 16 PUMPS ON MINE.
YOUR FILLING A 1 1/2" PUMP CHAMBER THROUGH A 1/4" HOLE WITH A CHECK BALL IN
IT.
THE LITTLE PAUSE HELPS IT TO MOVE THE GEAR WITH LESS STROKES.
THE OTHER WAY IS AN ELECTRIC PUMP WITH THE HAND PUMP AS BACKUP.
WEIGHS ABOUT 5LBS AND TAKES 25 SECONDS TO DEPLOY APROX.
JUST NEED THE EXTRA CHECK VALVE.
THINK I PAID ABOUT 285 FOR THE PUMP.
cEC
014R

From: Walter Klatt <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:38:40 -0800

Garry, I don't pause with mine, but not to say that a pause wouldn't help.
Out of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which just means
it takes more. I usually take about 20 to 25 these days. Could also be that
my seals are not as tight anymore. I don't think the mounting height has
much to do with it.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Garry
Wright
Sent: December 16, 2007 6:31 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time

Being a classic type A, I seem to want to pump quickly on the amphibs to
cycle them but find I need to pause at the top of the stroke to allow a
1/2 second or so for the pump to fill itself. Does anyone else have this
phenom or does it sound like I have an restriction? Might it be because
the reservoir is mounted too low (test situation - not in plane)?

Garry



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From: Garry Wright <wrightdg@davincibb.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:10:09 -0700

Hi Cec,

How do you manage the electric pump? Do you have overpressure cutoffs?
Do you simply use it with a spring loaded switch and pump up to about
100 psi??

Garry

Cecil Shaw wrote:

IT TAKES ABOUT 16 PUMPS ON MINE.
YOUR FILLING A 1 1/2" PUMP CHAMBER THROUGH A 1/4" HOLE WITH A CHECK BALL

IN

IT.
THE LITTLE PAUSE HELPS IT TO MOVE THE GEAR WITH LESS STROKES.
THE OTHER WAY IS AN ELECTRIC PUMP WITH THE HAND PUMP AS BACKUP.
WEIGHS ABOUT 5LBS AND TAKES 25 SECONDS TO DEPLOY APROX.
JUST NEED THE EXTRA CHECK VALVE.
THINK I PAID ABOUT 285 FOR THE PUMP.
cEC
014R

From: Walter Klatt <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:38:40 -0800

Garry, I don't pause with mine, but not to say that a pause wouldn't

help.

Out of habit, I, too, tend to use shorter, faster strokes, which just

means

it takes more. I usually take about 20 to 25 these days. Could also be

that

my seals are not as tight anymore. I don't think the mounting height

has

much to do with it.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of

Garry

Wright
Sent: December 16, 2007 6:31 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time

Being a classic type A, I seem to want to pump quickly on the amphibs

to

cycle them but find I need to pause at the top of the stroke to allow a
1/2 second or so for the pump to fill itself. Does anyone else have

this

phenom or does it sound like I have an restriction? Might it be because
the reservoir is mounted too low (test situation - not in plane)?

Garry



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the pressure goes up to about 300psi and pump stops.
must add.
Im not using the factory lines.
using the csa aproved air lines for transport trucks.
2 years now, and 5-8 years for Carman Titus.
very resonable and redaly availably any where.
I can get 250 - 300 out of the hand pump if I lean on it.
Cecil
014R

From: Garry Wright <wrightdg@davincibb.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:10:09 -0700

Hi Cec,

How do you manage the electric pump? Do you have overpressure cutoffs?
Do you simply use it with a spring loaded switch and pump up to about
100 psi??

Garry

Cecil Shaw wrote:

IT TAKES ABOUT 16 PUMPS ON MINE.
YOUR FILLING A 1 1/2" PUMP CHAMBER THROUGH A 1/4" HOLE WITH A CHECK BALL

IN

IT.
THE LITTLE PAUSE HELPS IT TO MOVE THE GEAR WITH LESS STROKES.
THE OTHER WAY IS AN ELECTRIC PUMP WITH THE HAND PUMP AS BACKUP.
WEIGHS ABOUT 5LBS AND TAKES 25 SECONDS TO DEPLOY APROX.
JUST NEED THE EXTRA CHECK VALVE.
THINK I PAID ABOUT 285 FOR THE PUMP.
cEC
014R

help.

means

that

has

Garry

to

this

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Hello Cecil I believe that I'm using the same lines on my floats and
they're only aproved to 200 or 250 psi. If possible you might consider
lowering the shut off pressure on your punp. The pressure reqired to keep
the gear locked is very low. Also if you lower the electric pump pressure
you can test the system at more than the normal working pressure using the
hand pump. this ensures that if a line is going to blow it will most
likely
happen during testing on the ground instead of in the air.

At 01:20 AM 12/22/2007 +0000, you wrote:

the pressure goes up to about 300psi and pump stops.
must add.
Im not using the factory lines.
using the csa aproved air lines for transport trucks.
2 years now, and 5-8 years for Carman Titus.
very resonable and redaly availably any where.
I can get 250 - 300 out of the hand pump if I lean on it.
Cecil
014R

From: Garry Wright <wrightdg@davincibb.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] hydraulics cycling time
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:10:09 -0700

Hi Cec,

How do you manage the electric pump? Do you have overpressure cutoffs?
Do you simply use it with a spring loaded switch and pump up to about
100 psi??

Garry

Cecil Shaw wrote: IN help. means that has Garry to this
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