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Bob Patterson

[rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions

Post by Bob Patterson » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:04 pm

Hi Rich !

Sorry - can't get dimensions for you now ... someone will
surely beat me to it anyway...

Don't forget to add a 2" channel, or angle, all along the
bottom of the panel, tying into the door posts, with the
middle angles bridged. You need this to stiffen up the
panel, and to give you space to mount the throttle,
primer, mixture, trim switch, and maybe the key,
etc. ... The panel is just deep enough for 2 rows of
instruments, and could use some stiffening anyway.
(Angle can be 1 1/2" - 2", & up to 1/8" thick)

The panel IS part of the structure - if you just run the
throttle through the panel, and don't add the channel
& stiffeners, the fuse will flex enough that the throttle
will move in & out on rough ground ... even if you
hold it completely closed !

If you cut the instrument holes about 1/4" oversize,
and add channels to the back for stiffness, you can
mount the instruments to an .040+ panel that can float
on top of the base panel, with the instruments through
those lage holes, and the floating panel supported by
rubber shock mounts. This helps the durability of
the gyros, and makes it a LOT easier to work on the
instruments - just pull the floating panel down to get
at the connections. This is MUCH easier than trying to
crawl underneath ! :-) The left angle panel can have
a rectangle cut out - as long as the rear of the panel
is reinforced with doubler angles. This swing out panel
(on a couple of piano hinges) is great for mounting
electrical breakers & switches for easy access.

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......bobp
http://www.prosumers.ca
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On Sunday 13 May 2007 23:18, Rich Dodson wrote:
Gents,

Could you do me a big favor and email me the width and height of the
standard Rebel panel (all three sections)?

Thanks a bunch!
Rich
Rebel 806


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Rich Dodson

[rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions

Post by Rich Dodson » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:04 pm

Thanks a bunch Bob!!!


----- Original Message ----
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To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 8:19:32 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions


Hi Rich !

Sorry - can't get dimensions for you now ... someone will
surely beat me to it anyway...

Don't forget to add a 2" channel, or angle, all along the
bottom of the panel, tying into the door posts, with the
middle angles bridged. You need this to stiffen up the
panel, and to give you space to mount the throttle,
primer, mixture, trim switch, and maybe the key,
etc. ... The panel is just deep enough for 2 rows of
instruments, and could use some stiffening anyway.
(Angle can be 1 1/2" - 2", & up to 1/8" thick)

The panel IS part of the structure - if you just run the
throttle through the panel, and don't add the channel
& stiffeners, the fuse will flex enough that the throttle
will move in & out on rough ground ... even if you
hold it completely closed !

If you cut the instrument holes about 1/4" oversize,
and add channels to the back for stiffness, you can
mount the instruments to an .040+ panel that can float
on top of the base panel, with the instruments through
those lage holes, and the floating panel supported by
rubber shock mounts. This helps the durability of
the gyros, and makes it a LOT easier to work on the
instruments - just pull the floating panel down to get
at the connections. This is MUCH easier than trying to
crawl underneath ! :-) The left angle panel can have
a rectangle cut out - as long as the rear of the panel
is reinforced with doubler angles. This swing out panel
(on a couple of piano hinges) is great for mounting
electrical breakers & switches for easy access.

--
......bobp
http://www.prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com

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Gents,

Could you do me a big favor and email me the width and height of the
standard Rebel panel (all three sections)?

Thanks a bunch!
Rich
Rebel 806


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Robert Johnson

[rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions

Post by Robert Johnson » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:04 pm

Hi Rich. The panel height is 8" with the sides being 10" each and the center
26". The sides have the 1" flange also for attaching to the door posts. If
this is not understandable let me know. Bob J Rebel 192/731
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Subject: [rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions

Gents,

Could you do me a big favor and email me the width and height of the
standard Rebel panel (all three sections)?

Thanks a bunch!
Rich
Rebel 806



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Wayne G. O'Shea

[rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:04 pm

If you cut the firewall back by 3" the side panels become shorter by 2
inches.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Johnson" <bestofbo@cogeco.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions

Hi Rich. The panel height is 8" with the sides being 10" each and the
center
26". The sides have the 1" flange also for attaching to the door posts. If
this is not understandable let me know. Bob J Rebel 192/731
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To: "Rebel Listserve" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 7:18 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions

Gents,

Could you do me a big favor and email me the width and height of the
standard Rebel panel (all three sections)?

Thanks a bunch!
Rich
Rebel 806



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Rich Dodson

[rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions

Post by Rich Dodson » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:04 pm

Thanks Bob and Wayne!


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rshannon

[rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions

Post by rshannon » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:08 pm

Has anyone managed to squeeze (3) 2 1/4" instruments vertically in the
Rebel panel?

Ron
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Robert Johnson

[rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions

Post by Robert Johnson » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:08 pm

Hi Ron: Per an AutoCAD layout I just did, it is quite possible within the 8"
panel height - HOWEVER - it will not work on the sides where the 5/8 square
tubing is mounted for the panel braces. You could stagger them a bit side
to side - may be quite effective.- Bob J Rebel 192/731.
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Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions

Has anyone managed to squeeze (3) 2 1/4" instruments vertically in the
Rebel panel?

Ron
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Ken

[rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions

Post by Ken » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:08 pm

Since I added a 2" channel under my Rebel panel, I wish I had put the
5/8 panel braces below the bottom of the panel (inside the 2" channel).
Done per the manual, those braces interfered with my bottom outboard
and even the bottom center instrument in a conventional six pack of
flight instruments.
Ken

Robert Johnson wrote:
Hi Ron: Per an AutoCAD layout I just did, it is quite possible within the 8"
panel height - HOWEVER - it will not work on the sides where the 5/8 square
tubing is mounted for the panel braces. You could stagger them a bit side
to side - may be quite effective.- Bob J Rebel 192/731.
----- Original Message -----
From: <rshannon@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions



Has anyone managed to squeeze (3) 2 1/4" instruments vertically in the
Rebel panel?

Ron
254R
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Ron Shannon

[rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions

Post by Ron Shannon » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:08 pm

Thanks, Bob, for running the numbers, and Ken, for suggesting how the
bracing layout could be modified to optimize panel space. The panel is a
tight fit, especially for those of us who insist on including the
kitchen sink. :-)

Ken wrote:
Since I added a 2" channel under my Rebel panel, I wish I had put the
5/8 panel braces below the bottom of the panel (inside the 2" channel).
Done per the manual, those braces interfered with my bottom outboard
and even the bottom center instrument in a conventional six pack of
flight instruments.
Ken

Robert Johnson wrote:
Hi Ron: Per an AutoCAD layout I just did, it is quite possible within the 8"
panel height - HOWEVER - it will not work on the sides where the 5/8 square
tubing is mounted for the panel braces. You could stagger them a bit side
to side - may be quite effective.- Bob J Rebel 192/731.

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Drew Dalgleish

[rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions

Post by Drew Dalgleish » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:08 pm

If you want it all why not go for a glass panel? I think you can put in a
dynon or AFS for less than the price of steam gauges.

At 07:55 AM 5/22/2007 -0700, you wrote:
Thanks, Bob, for running the numbers, and Ken, for suggesting how the
bracing layout could be modified to optimize panel space. The panel is a
tight fit, especially for those of us who insist on including the
kitchen sink. :-)

Ken wrote:
Since I added a 2" channel under my Rebel panel, I wish I had put the
5/8 panel braces below the bottom of the panel (inside the 2" channel).
Done per the manual, those braces interfered with my bottom outboard
and even the bottom center instrument in a conventional six pack of
flight instruments.
Ken

Robert Johnson wrote:
Hi Ron: Per an AutoCAD layout I just did, it is quite possible within
the 8"
panel height - HOWEVER - it will not work on the sides where the 5/8
square
tubing is mounted for the panel braces. You could stagger them a bit
side
to side - may be quite effective.- Bob J Rebel 192/731.

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Ron Shannon

[rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions

Post by Ron Shannon » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:08 pm

I do plan (at the moment) to install dual GRT EFIS panels for primary
flight and engine instrumentation. However, there are other functions I
may want to implement in 2.25 round format in the panel, like Becker
transponder, X-COM VHF, DigiTrak A/P, vertical card compass, and
DigiTrak ADI when/if they finally get the 2.25 model out the door, etc.

Drew Dalgleish wrote:
If you want it all why not go for a glass panel? I think you can put in a
dynon or AFS for less than the price of steam gauges.

At 07:55 AM 5/22/2007 -0700, you wrote:
Thanks, Bob, for running the numbers, and Ken, for suggesting how the
bracing layout could be modified to optimize panel space. The panel is a
tight fit, especially for those of us who insist on including the
kitchen sink. :-)

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Jesse Jenks

[rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions

Post by Jesse Jenks » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:08 pm

That's what I plan to do.
Jesse
From: Drew Dalgleish <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 19:51:56 -0400

If you want it all why not go for a glass panel? I think you can put in a
dynon or AFS for less than the price of steam gauges.

At 07:55 AM 5/22/2007 -0700, you wrote:
Thanks, Bob, for running the numbers, and Ken, for suggesting how the
bracing layout could be modified to optimize panel space. The panel is a
tight fit, especially for those of us who insist on including the
kitchen sink. :-)

Ken wrote:
Since I added a 2" channel under my Rebel panel, I wish I had put the
5/8 panel braces below the bottom of the panel (inside the 2" channel).
Done per the manual, those braces interfered with my bottom outboard
and even the bottom center instrument in a conventional six pack of
flight instruments.
Ken

Robert Johnson wrote:
the 8"
square
side

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Drew Dalgleish

[rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions

Post by Drew Dalgleish » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:08 pm

Wow you really do want it all. Best of luck to ya and please give a report
on how well the A/P works out.

At 09:42 AM 5/23/2007 -0700, you wrote:
I do plan (at the moment) to install dual GRT EFIS panels for primary
flight and engine instrumentation. However, there are other functions I
may want to implement in 2.25 round format in the panel, like Becker
transponder, X-COM VHF, DigiTrak A/P, vertical card compass, and
DigiTrak ADI when/if they finally get the 2.25 model out the door, etc.

Drew Dalgleish wrote:
If you want it all why not go for a glass panel? I think you can put in a
dynon or AFS for less than the price of steam gauges.

At 07:55 AM 5/22/2007 -0700, you wrote:
Thanks, Bob, for running the numbers, and Ken, for suggesting how the
bracing layout could be modified to optimize panel space. The panel is a
tight fit, especially for those of us who insist on including the
kitchen sink. :-)

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Ron Shannon

[rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions

Post by Ron Shannon » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:08 pm

It's still easy to dream big when your panel is still 9-10 months away.
Did I mention the FLIR scope? :-)


Drew Dalgleish wrote:
Wow you really do want it all. Best of luck to ya and please give a report
on how well the A/P works out.

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Wayne G. O'Shea

[rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:08 pm

I hear there's a 75K Moose panel kicking around now... that would rivet
right in.... ;o)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Drew Dalgleish" <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Panel Dimensions

If you want it all why not go for a glass panel? I think you can put in a
dynon or AFS for less than the price of steam gauges.

At 07:55 AM 5/22/2007 -0700, you wrote:
Thanks, Bob, for running the numbers, and Ken, for suggesting how the
bracing layout could be modified to optimize panel space. The panel is a
tight fit, especially for those of us who insist on including the
kitchen sink. :-)

Ken wrote:
Since I added a 2" channel under my Rebel panel, I wish I had put the
5/8 panel braces below the bottom of the panel (inside the 2" channel).
Done per the manual, those braces interfered with my bottom outboard
and even the bottom center instrument in a conventional six pack of
flight instruments.
Ken

Robert Johnson wrote:
the 8"
square
side

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