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YES !

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Subject: [rebel-builders] Super Rebel stats / bulletins?

- Is the SR gross weight 3,000 lbs?

Thank you,



Ted





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Hello

The first Super Rebel were not SR-2500?
Jean
Rebel 747R

Jean Poirier
Pr

Yes Jean...was referred to as the SR-2500...has a gross weight spec of 3000
lbs.

Wayne

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From: "Jean Poirier" <jean.poirier@oxyportneuf.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 5:01 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Super Rebel stats / bulletins?


[quote]Hello

The first Super Rebel were not SR-2500?
Jean
Rebel 747R

Jean Poirier
Pr

Hi Ted: I am currently putting a Q.B. Moose together which only came with a
Super Rebel manual and the upgrade conversion manual .(such as it is) The
main upgrades I could see beneficial would be the improved larger landing
gear attach brackets, tailcone mods, outer bearing supports for the aileron
c'weights in the tip ribs, wing and stabilizer end rib doublers and
brackets. There is not much else outside of all the spar and skin doublers
that where required for the 3500 lb gross. I am sure Bob P could add to
this. It is unfortunate at this time that the Murphy web site no longer
lists the upgrades and service bulletins - I need to check a few more
myself. Bob J
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Waltman" <tedwaltman@i1ci.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 4:24 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Super Rebel stats / bulletins?

A friend of mine is looking at possibly buying a Super Rebel [he's also
looking at a couple of Moose] that's currently for sale. I know the SR is
the same as a Moose-just fewer doublers and quite a few other structural
upgrades (I have the SR to Moose upgrade manual).



Since it's been a while since MAM sold the SR, does anyone have any info
they can email me, such as:



- Service bulletins specific to the SR (I know the ones out on
the
website for the Moose likely apply for the SR too, if it's a common part
that had a problem that is. However, the current website is missing some
service bulletins-not all are there for the Moose and surely there are
ones
missing from back when that applied to the SR before it became the Moose).



- Info, i.e. this issue or that issue that someone knows about
with
SR's that never made it to becoming an official service bulletin



- Is the SR gross weight 3,000 lbs?





Thank you,



Ted





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I guess I should have stayed at it until I had all the SB/mods posted...
perhaps as you find them you can finish what I started.

http://www.dcsol.com/sbmod

Mike

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From: "Ted Waltman" <tedwaltman@i1ci.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 12:24 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Super Rebel stats / bulletins?

A friend of mine is looking at possibly buying a Super Rebel [he's also
looking at a couple of Moose] that's currently for sale. I know the SR is
the same as a Moose-just fewer doublers and quite a few other structural
upgrades (I have the SR to Moose upgrade manual).



Since it's been a while since MAM sold the SR, does anyone have any info
they can email me, such as:



- Service bulletins specific to the SR (I know the ones out on
the
website for the Moose likely apply for the SR too, if it's a common part
that had a problem that is. However, the current website is missing some
service bulletins-not all are there for the Moose and surely there are
ones
missing from back when that applied to the SR before it became the Moose).



- Info, i.e. this issue or that issue that someone knows about
with
SR's that never made it to becoming an official service bulletin



- Is the SR gross weight 3,000 lbs?





Thank you,



Ted





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Hi Ted !

Can't help much on the bulletins - hope they dig them out
and make them available for the web site soon.

The SR does have a 3,000 lb gross.

One thing to look for is the thicker windshield - a few
early SRs had a thin windshield (1/8" ????) . All later ones
were thicker -- definitely desireable !

The Moose has longer gear legs - this really makes
landings easier. It's pretty hard to get a good 3 point
with a SR .... maybe larger tires (NOT the huge ones)
would help ...

If he can find a SR with the bucket seats instead of
the bench, it will be a lot more versatile. The Lyc O-540
with a 2 blade is a good match for the airplane - enjoyed that !

Would be good to do ALL of the Moose mods related
to control systems ..... and the tail beef-ups...

--
......bobp
http://www.prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Tuesday 03 April 2007 20:24, Ted Waltman wrote:

A friend of mine is looking at possibly buying a Super Rebel [he's also
looking at a couple of Moose] that's currently for sale. I know the SR is
the same as a Moose-just fewer doublers and quite a few other structural
upgrades (I have the SR to Moose upgrade manual).



Since it's been a while since MAM sold the SR, does anyone have any info
they can email me, such as:



- Service bulletins specific to the SR (I know the ones out on the
website for the Moose likely apply for the SR too, if it's a common part
that had a problem that is. However, the current website is missing some
service bulletins-not all are there for the Moose and surely there are ones
missing from back when that applied to the SR before it became the Moose).



- Info, i.e. this issue or that issue that someone knows about with
SR's that never made it to becoming an official service bulletin



- Is the SR gross weight 3,000 lbs?





Thank you,



Ted

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I don't have a true spec sheet, but what I recall is Vne is 167 mph. I'll
look around and see what I can find in my files. I am building a SR2500,
not a moose, so I need to know.

Rick Muller
(303) 664 9219 Home
(303) 641 6623 Cell
rickhm@comcast.net

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Patterson
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 7:33 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Super Rebel stats / bulletins?


Hi Ted !

Can't help much on the bulletins - hope they dig them out
and make them available for the web site soon.

The SR does have a 3,000 lb gross.

One thing to look for is the thicker windshield - a few
early SRs had a thin windshield (1/8" ????) . All later ones
were thicker -- definitely desireable !

The Moose has longer gear legs - this really makes
landings easier. It's pretty hard to get a good 3 point
with a SR .... maybe larger tires (NOT the huge ones)
would help ...

If he can find a SR with the bucket seats instead of
the bench, it will be a lot more versatile. The Lyc O-540
with a 2 blade is a good match for the airplane - enjoyed that !

Would be good to do ALL of the Moose mods related
to control systems ..... and the tail beef-ups...

--
......bobp
http://www.prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Tuesday 03 April 2007 20:24, Ted Waltman wrote:

A friend of mine is looking at possibly buying a Super Rebel [he's also
looking at a couple of Moose] that's currently for sale. I know the SR is
the same as a Moose-just fewer doublers and quite a few other structural
upgrades (I have the SR to Moose upgrade manual).



Since it's been a while since MAM sold the SR, does anyone have any info
they can email me, such as:



- Service bulletins specific to the SR (I know the ones out on

the

website for the Moose likely apply for the SR too, if it's a common part
that had a problem that is. However, the current website is missing some
service bulletins-not all are there for the Moose and surely there are

ones

missing from back when that applied to the SR before it became the Moose).



- Info, i.e. this issue or that issue that someone knows about

with

SR's that never made it to becoming an official service bulletin



- Is the SR gross weight 3,000 lbs?





Thank you,



Ted

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March 2000 issue of Custom Plane with an O-540 engine

Gross weight 3000 lbs
Empty weight 1400-1600 lbs
Useful load 1400-1550 lbs
Wing span 36 ft
Wing area 182 sq ft
Wing cord 60 in
Wing load 16.5 sq ft
Airfoil 4415 modified
Fuselage width 44 in
Length 23 ft
Tail span 130 in
Tail chord 33.5 in
Power loading 12.0 lb/hp
Rate of climb 1000 ft/min
Takeoff run 600 ft
Landing roll 500 ft
Stall power off no flaps 52 mph
Stall power on full flaps 46 mph
Cruise 75% power 145 mph
Vne 177 mph
Fuel burn 14.1 gph
Fuel capacity 60 gallons
Range 4.3 hrs
Range 620 sm
G limits ultimate +5.7/-3.8

Doesn't state max maneuvering speed, maybe that was the 160-165 number I
recall.

Rick Muller
(303) 664 9219 Home
(303) 641 6623 Cell
rickhm@comcast.net

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 6:19 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Super Rebel stats / bulletins?

I guess I should have stayed at it until I had all the SB/mods posted...
perhaps as you find them you can finish what I started.

http://www.dcsol.com/sbmod

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Waltman" <tedwaltman@i1ci.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 12:24 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Super Rebel stats / bulletins?

A friend of mine is looking at possibly buying a Super Rebel [he's also
looking at a couple of Moose] that's currently for sale. I know the SR is
the same as a Moose-just fewer doublers and quite a few other structural
upgrades (I have the SR to Moose upgrade manual).



Since it's been a while since MAM sold the SR, does anyone have any info
they can email me, such as:



- Service bulletins specific to the SR (I know the ones out on
the
website for the Moose likely apply for the SR too, if it's a common part
that had a problem that is. However, the current website is missing some
service bulletins-not all are there for the Moose and surely there are
ones
missing from back when that applied to the SR before it became the Moose).



- Info, i.e. this issue or that issue that someone knows about
with
SR's that never made it to becoming an official service bulletin



- Is the SR gross weight 3,000 lbs?





Thank you,



Ted





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SR2500 VNE 177 m.p.h.

Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Muller <rickhm@comcast.net>
Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2007 9:55 pm
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Super Rebel stats / bulletins?

I don't have a true spec sheet, but what I recall is Vne is 167
mph. I'll
look around and see what I can find in my files. I am building a
SR2500,not a moose, so I need to know.

Rick Muller
(303) 664 9219 Home
(303) 641 6623 Cell
rickhm@comcast.net

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