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G'day Mike ....

I have "a friend of a friend" who got a "bargain" on a 152 recently ..... he got it REAL cheap & planned to do it up in stages ....

He thought he'd have some fun first though ... and for the first few months went out & did aerobatics in it & threw it all over the sky

He finally took it to the L.A.M.E. (our version of an "A & P" person) - & said "FIX IT UP "

When he got home - he got a call from the LAME , who said " Whatever you do ... DO NOT do ANY aerobatics in the 152 !!!"

to which the owner replied "why ?!?"

The Engineer said BOTH spars are corroded badly - almost right through ...

When the owner said - "I have just been doing aero's today !"

The engineer said "Go & buy a dozen lottery tickets right away - this IS your luckiest week ever - you should be dead !"

(This doesn't really help you out much I know ... but your request reminded me of that story - sorry

Biggus
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PS : Do you r....e.....a.....l....l....y.... FIT into a 150 ?!?
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Any of you Rebelites out there happen to know of a pair of Cessna 150 wings laying around? Took my 150 in for annual last Monday and we found some serious problems in the wings... collapsed leading edge ribs, and splices in the main spar that were not done properly. For what it will cost to rebuild them, thought I'd look around for another pair.

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Try Doug Ronan in Brechin Ontario. Shipping might kill ya though...

doug@dougronan.com

www.dougronan.com

Wayne

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Any of you Rebelites out there happen to know of a pair of Cessna 150
wings laying around? Took my 150 in for annual last Monday and we found
some serious problems in the wings... collapsed leading edge ribs, and
splices in the main spar that were not done properly. For what it will
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Mike

I've been following the story over on Yahoo 150s, and having recently acquired a 152 ("for now" for all the "spamcan" critics) ;-) I feel your pain. So far so good for us thank goodness!

OK, There are a couple of commercial ads in the latest COPA newsletter, Watson Aircraft 514-453-2579 and Northern A/C Salvage (Fraserville) 705-939-2670. I think these are both Ontario so Wayne might have an opinion on how they are to deal with.

I've got one more possibility but I want to check before saying anything.

BTW, does anyone know how interchangable 150-152 wings are (according to the book).

Cheers,

Dave


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Biggus
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PS : Do you r....e.....a.....l....l....y.... FIT into a 150 ?!?

lol, I'm an FAA standard issue pilot... 5' 10" and 175 lbs. I'm quite
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Thanks Wayne... the web site shows that he has 150 wings, I'll drop him a
note. I did find a company in the lower 48 that has a freshly rebuilt set
all epoxy primered inside... $4000 each wing, plus an estimate of $2000
shipping. Ouch!

Mike

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Try Doug Ronan in Brechin Ontario. Shipping might kill ya though...

doug@dougronan.com

www.dougronan.com

Wayne

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Any of you Rebelites out there happen to know of a pair of Cessna 150
wings laying around? Took my 150 in for annual last Monday and we found
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My best way to comment on either of those...is just to not comment.

The other that crossed my mind, other than Doug Ronan (has a 4 story barn
FULL of Cessna parts), would be to contact Global Aircraft in Alberta.
http://www.globalparts.com/

Wayne

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Mike

I've been following the story over on Yahoo 150s, and having recently
acquired a 152 ("for now" for all the "spamcan" critics) ;-) I feel your
pain. So far so good for us thank goodness!

OK, There are a couple of commercial ads in the latest COPA newsletter,
Watson Aircraft 514-453-2579 and Northern A/C Salvage (Fraserville)
705-939-2670. I think these are both Ontario so Wayne might have an
opinion on how they are to deal with.

I've got one more possibility but I want to check before saying anything.

BTW, does anyone know how interchangable 150-152 wings are (according to
the book).

Cheers,

Dave


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Mike,

You might try White Industries in Bates City, MO
http://www.whiteindustries.com/

Shipping would probably still be a killer but, it is just 25 miles
down the street from me, and I could pull the big trailer to Oshkosh
if it would help; extra fuel to pull my big trailer might be worse
than shipping. Anyone else notice that for the past two years the
highest price of fuel seems to be in honor of Oshkosh?

The last time I dealt with Terry White was in 1967 when he sold
foreign car parts and was just getting started in aircraft
salvage. I've been meaning to get out there and have a look about.

John...369R



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Try Doug Ronan in Brechin Ontario. Shipping might kill ya though...

doug@dougronan.com

www.dougronan.com

Wayne

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Any of you Rebelites out there happen to know of a pair of Cessna 150
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Hello Mike

You should try Doug Ronan Airparts in Ontario. A lot of stock and the 2 times I made business with him was a honnest experience.

Jean
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Any of you Rebelites out there happen to know of a pair of Cessna 150 wings laying around? Took my 150 in for annual last Monday and we

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Hmmm....that good huh?

Dave

"Wayne G. O'Shea" wrote:

My best way to comment on either of those...is just to not comment.

The other that crossed my mind, other than Doug Ronan (has a 4 story barn
FULL of Cessna parts), would be to contact Global Aircraft in Alberta.
http://www.globalparts.com/

Wayne

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Mike

I've been following the story over on Yahoo 150s, and having recently
acquired a 152 ("for now" for all the "spamcan" critics) ;-) I feel your
pain. So far so good for us thank goodness!

OK, There are a couple of commercial ads in the latest COPA newsletter,
Watson Aircraft 514-453-2579 and Northern A/C Salvage (Fraserville)
705-939-2670. I think these are both Ontario so Wayne might have an
opinion on how they are to deal with.

I've got one more possibility but I want to check before saying anything.

BTW, does anyone know how interchangable 150-152 wings are (according to
the book).

Cheers,

Dave


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My comments would echo Wayne's words!!
My suggestion would be to contact John Goris at Purple Hill Air (Murphy
builder and owner) 519-461-1964, Thorndale ON
John works on a ton of 150's and has lots of parts.
...........Angus


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Hmmm....that good huh?

Dave

"Wayne G. O'Shea" wrote:

My best way to comment on either of those...is just to not comment.

The other that crossed my mind, other than Doug Ronan (has a 4 story barn
FULL of Cessna parts), would be to contact Global Aircraft in Alberta.
http://www.globalparts.com/

Wayne

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Mike

I've been following the story over on Yahoo 150s, and having recently
acquired a 152 ("for now" for all the "spamcan" critics) ;-) I feel
your
pain. So far so good for us thank goodness!

OK, There are a couple of commercial ads in the latest COPA newsletter,
Watson Aircraft 514-453-2579 and Northern A/C Salvage (Fraserville)
705-939-2670. I think these are both Ontario so Wayne might have an
opinion on how they are to deal with.

I've got one more possibility but I want to check before saying
anything.

BTW, does anyone know how interchangable 150-152 wings are (according
to
the book).

Cheers,

Dave


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Thanks for all the ideas guys, I've already sent off information requests to
several. I've also got a line on a set of wings in Clinton, Iowa at $2600
for the pair... by far the best price I've found so far. I've got a good
friend who is a very experienced pilot and A&P in Lincoln, Illinois who I
was going to ask to go take a look for me... but thought I'd ask here if
there is anyone who lives nearby who might be willing to go take a look for
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Oh .... OK ...

I had a guy offer to do some of my GA license in a 150 ....
I said "you wanna redo the W & B" (with my then 6' & 250 Lbs weight - now more like 300 Lbs :o( .... and he then said "We can LEGALLY carry 8 litres of fuel ! "

Big
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Biggus
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PS : Do you r....e.....a.....l....l....y.... FIT into a 150 ?!?

lol, I'm an FAA standard issue pilot... 5' 10" and 175 lbs. I'm quite
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The comment I heard about one of them was " If he shakes your hand count
your fingers afterwards " sounds like the other isn't much different.

At 08:12 PM 4/1/2007 -0300, you wrote:

Hmmm....that good huh?

Dave

"Wayne G. O'Shea" wrote:

My best way to comment on either of those...is just to not comment.

The other that crossed my mind, other than Doug Ronan (has a 4 story barn
FULL of Cessna parts), would be to contact Global Aircraft in Alberta.
http://www.globalparts.com/

Wayne

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Mike

I've been following the story over on Yahoo 150s, and having recently
acquired a 152 ("for now" for all the "spamcan" critics) ;-) I feel your
pain. So far so good for us thank goodness!

OK, There are a couple of commercial ads in the latest COPA newsletter,
Watson Aircraft 514-453-2579 and Northern A/C Salvage (Fraserville)
705-939-2670. I think these are both Ontario so Wayne might have an
opinion on how they are to deal with.

I've got one more possibility but I want to check before saying anything.

BTW, does anyone know how interchangable 150-152 wings are (according to
the book).

Cheers,

Dave


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Mike is this the same Illinois source you had? My AME (CDN A&P) put me onto
them.

http://www.cent-air.com/wing.htm

The other lead didn't work out, turns out the wings I had my eye on were 172.

Dave

Mike Davis wrote:

Thanks Wayne... the web site shows that he has 150 wings, I'll drop him a
note. I did find a company in the lower 48 that has a freshly rebuilt set
all epoxy primered inside... $4000 each wing, plus an estimate of $2000
shipping. Ouch!

Mike

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Try Doug Ronan in Brechin Ontario. Shipping might kill ya though...

doug@dougronan.com

www.dougronan.com

Wayne

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Any of you Rebelites out there happen to know of a pair of Cessna 150
wings laying around? Took my 150 in for annual last Monday and we found
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Mike, I had a set of 172 wings re-skinned (corrosion) in ~1993 for $2500,
Zinc chromated inside and out. At the time they indicated that it was
suppose to take 80 hours/wing with the wing jigs, although it took more like
160 hours. That's assembly only, no paint, etc. It took about 1-2 gallons
of Zinc chromate per wing (Dupont Variprime). Last I saw Variprime was
selling for $250-300/gallon. $4000- $500 = $3,500 So at $3,500/wing
$22-44/hr. There not getting rich after they pay for all the overhead of
insurance, etc., but as you said, ouch! I guess that's why we build kits!

Just my $.02 on the cost.

Rick Muller
(303) 664 9219 Home
(303) 641 6623 Cell
rickhm@comcast.net

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Mike is this the same Illinois source you had? My AME (CDN A&P) put me onto
them.

http://www.cent-air.com/wing.htm

The other lead didn't work out, turns out the wings I had my eye on were
172.

Dave

Mike Davis wrote:

Thanks Wayne... the web site shows that he has 150 wings, I'll drop him a
note. I did find a company in the lower 48 that has a freshly rebuilt set
all epoxy primered inside... $4000 each wing, plus an estimate of $2000
shipping. Ouch!

Mike

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Try Doug Ronan in Brechin Ontario. Shipping might kill ya though...

doug@dougronan.com

www.dougronan.com

Wayne

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Any of you Rebelites out there happen to know of a pair of Cessna 150
wings laying around? Took my 150 in for annual last Monday and we

found

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Thanks, Mike

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