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Hi All,
I couldn't find anything about this in the archives - which may mean that
no
one else had this question which, in turn, may mean I'm a moron.....

For a for a moose with the standard JDM wheel rims and tires that come
from
MAM, how do I get the tube stem to the outside of the wheel? Do I have
to
dril a hole in the cylinder and use a stem extension?

Thanks,

Fred
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My rims had the holes, but an extender is necessary for the stem.

Charlie Starr SR N96CS

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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:50 AM
Subject: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose

Hi All,
I couldn't find anything about this in the archives - which may mean

that

no
one else had this question which, in turn, may mean I'm a moron.....

For a for a moose with the standard JDM wheel rims and tires that come
from
MAM, how do I get the tube stem to the outside of the wheel? Do I have
to
dril a hole in the cylinder and use a stem extension?

Thanks,

Fred
Moose 295




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From: "Fred Messinger (fredm)" <fredmessinger@gmail.com>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:13:18 -0400

Hi Charlie,

Do you mean your rims had holes in the cylinders - the surface that
actually
comes in contact with the inner surface of the tube?

My rims have stem holes in the end plates but not in the cylinders.

Fred


On 3/22/07, Charlie Starr <cws1932@cox.net> wrote:

My rims had the holes, but an extender is necessary for the stem.

Charlie Starr SR N96CS

----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:50 AM
Subject: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose

Hi All,
I couldn't find anything about this in the archives - which may mean

that

no
one else had this question which, in turn, may mean I'm a moron.....

For a for a moose with the standard JDM wheel rims and tires that come
from
MAM, how do I get the tube stem to the outside of the wheel? Do I

have

to
dril a hole in the cylinder and use a stem extension?

Thanks,

Fred
Moose 295




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From: "Nancy Puff" <nancy@rotech.ca>
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:27:31 -0700

Hi Fred


You are by far not the only one that has asked that question
If you have a hole drilled in the spacer you need a 90 deg valve with an
extension
If you have a hole drilled in the wheel rim you need a straight valve
with no extension.



Nancy Puff

-----Original Message-----
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Fred Messinger (fredm)
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:51 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose

Hi All,
I couldn't find anything about this in the archives - which may mean
that no one else had this question which, in turn, may mean I'm a
moron.....

For a for a moose with the standard JDM wheel rims and tires that come
from
MAM, how do I get the tube stem to the outside of the wheel? Do I have
to
dril a hole in the cylinder and use a stem extension?

Thanks,

Fred
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From: "Nancy Puff" <nancy@rotech.ca>
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:27:31 -0700

Hi Fred


You are by far not the only one that has asked that question If you
have a hole drilled in the spacer you need a 90 deg valve with an
extension If you have a hole drilled in the wheel rim you need a
straight valve with no extension.



Nancy Puff

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Fred Messinger (fredm)
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:51 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose

Hi All,
I couldn't find anything about this in the archives - which may mean
that no one else had this question which, in turn, may mean I'm a
moron.....

For a for a moose with the standard JDM wheel rims and tires that come
from
MAM, how do I get the tube stem to the outside of the wheel? Do I

to
dril a hole in the cylinder and use a stem extension?

Thanks,

Fred
Moose 295




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YAY I WIN!


Nancy Puff

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steve whitenect
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:39 AM
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Nancy beat me to it!!

Steve

From: "Nancy Puff" <nancy@rotech.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:27:31 -0700

Hi Fred


You are by far not the only one that has asked that question If you
have a hole drilled in the spacer you need a 90 deg valve with an
extension If you have a hole drilled in the wheel rim you need a
straight valve with no extension.



Nancy Puff

-----Original Message-----
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Fred Messinger (fredm)
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:51 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose

Hi All,
I couldn't find anything about this in the archives - which may mean
that no one else had this question which, in turn, may mean I'm a
moron.....

For a for a moose with the standard JDM wheel rims and tires that come
from
MAM, how do I get the tube stem to the outside of the wheel? Do I

have

to
dril a hole in the cylinder and use a stem extension?

Thanks,

Fred
Moose 295




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Nancy Puff

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steve whitenect
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:39 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose

Nancy beat me to it!!

Steve

From: "Nancy Puff" <nancy@rotech.ca>
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:27:31 -0700

Hi Fred


You are by far not the only one that has asked that question If you
have a hole drilled in the spacer you need a 90 deg valve with an
extension If you have a hole drilled in the wheel rim you need a
straight valve with no extension.



Nancy Puff

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of

Fred Messinger (fredm)
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:51 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose

Hi All,
I couldn't find anything about this in the archives - which may mean
that no one else had this question which, in turn, may mean I'm a
moron.....

For a for a moose with the standard JDM wheel rims and tires that
come from
MAM, how do I get the tube stem to the outside of the wheel? Do I

have

to
dril a hole in the cylinder and use a stem extension?

Thanks,

Fred
Moose 295




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Nancy Puff

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steve whitenect
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:39 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose

Nancy beat me to it!!

Steve

From: "Nancy Puff" <nancy@rotech.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:27:31 -0700

Hi Fred


You are by far not the only one that has asked that question If you
have a hole drilled in the spacer you need a 90 deg valve with an
extension If you have a hole drilled in the wheel rim you need a
straight valve with no extension.



Nancy Puff

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of

Fred Messinger (fredm)
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:51 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose

Hi All,
I couldn't find anything about this in the archives - which may mean
that no one else had this question which, in turn, may mean I'm a
moron.....

For a for a moose with the standard JDM wheel rims and tires that
come from
MAM, how do I get the tube stem to the outside of the wheel? Do I

have

to
dril a hole in the cylinder and use a stem extension?

Thanks,

Fred
Moose 295




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Hi Fred,

By the sounds of it they gave you wheels for a 90 deg tube but forgot
the hole in the spacer.

And they gave you straight valve tubes?



Nancy Puff

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Fred Messinger (fredm)
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 11:01 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose

ARGH!!!...If this weren't so inconvenient, it would be funny.

Thanks Nancy and Steve for your help.

My tire tubes have a straight 2" stem that comes off at an angle from
the
main plane of the tube. This tube requires the new style wheels.

My wheel spacer has no hole in it. Suggesting a new style wheel.

The wheel ends (the head and bottom of a drum) have holes in
them.......BUT
THE HOLES ARE INSIDE THE RADIUS OF THE SPACER!!!!!! There is no
physical
path from inside the tire to the outside world (which one would need if
they needed to put air in these things).

So the wheels are of mixed breed???? A wheel made with a new spacer
and
old heads???

So its back to MAM I go?




On 3/22/07, Nancy Puff <nancy@rotech.ca> wrote:

YAY I WIN!


Nancy Puff

-----Original Message-----
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steve whitenect
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:39 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose

Nancy beat me to it!!

Steve

From: "Nancy Puff" <nancy@rotech.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:27:31 -0700

Hi Fred


You are by far not the only one that has asked that question If you
have a hole drilled in the spacer you need a 90 deg valve with an
extension If you have a hole drilled in the wheel rim you need a
straight valve with no extension.



Nancy Puff

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of

Fred Messinger (fredm)
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:51 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose

Hi All,
I couldn't find anything about this in the archives - which may mean
that no one else had this question which, in turn, may mean I'm a
moron.....

For a for a moose with the standard JDM wheel rims and tires that
come from
MAM, how do I get the tube stem to the outside of the wheel? Do I

have

to
dril a hole in the cylinder and use a stem extension?

Thanks,

Fred
Moose 295




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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:39 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose

Nancy beat me to it!!

Steve

From: "Nancy Puff" <nancy@rotech.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:27:31 -0700

Hi Fred


You are by far not the only one that has asked that question If you
have a hole drilled in the spacer you need a 90 deg valve with an
extension If you have a hole drilled in the wheel rim you need a
straight valve with no extension.



Nancy Puff

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of

Fred Messinger (fredm)
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:51 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose

Hi All,
I couldn't find anything about this in the archives - which may mean
that no one else had this question which, in turn, may mean I'm a
moron.....

For a for a moose with the standard JDM wheel rims and tires that
come from
MAM, how do I get the tube stem to the outside of the wheel? Do I

have

to
dril a hole in the cylinder and use a stem extension?

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Fred
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From: Mike Kimball <mkimball@gci.net>
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To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:37:11 -0800

What pickle? Why not contact MAM and get them to straighten things out? I
don't see why they wouldn't provide you with compatible parts to put your
wheels and tubes together. I'm a little confused myself. I don't remember
anything that could be called a "spacer" with my wheels. I just remember
two wheel halves and a tube and everything went together just fine and no
valve extension needed. Maybe I have a different kind of wheel? Did you
opt for the 8.5 upgrade? I have the stock 8.0.

Mike
044SR

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Nancy
Puff
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 11:00 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose


Let me expand on that

If you had a wheel rim with a hole drilled out on an angle ....without
a hole in the spacer.... then that would be for a stright valve tube.
If you had a spacer with a hole in the middle and at the top through the
Rim a straight hole that is, that would be for a 90 deg tube with an
extension.

By the looks of things you have the wrong tubes for your wheels and will
need to drill a hole in your spacer
If it's straight valve you want then you will need the hole for that to
be machined through the rim
Hmmph, I guess either way your in a pickle. Sorry didn't have good news.

Nancy


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Fred Messinger (fredm)
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 11:01 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose

ARGH!!!...If this weren't so inconvenient, it would be funny.

Thanks Nancy and Steve for your help.

My tire tubes have a straight 2" stem that comes off at an angle from
the
main plane of the tube. This tube requires the new style wheels.

My wheel spacer has no hole in it. Suggesting a new style wheel.

The wheel ends (the head and bottom of a drum) have holes in
them.......BUT
THE HOLES ARE INSIDE THE RADIUS OF THE SPACER!!!!!! There is no
physical
path from inside the tire to the outside world (which one would need if
they needed to put air in these things).

So the wheels are of mixed breed???? A wheel made with a new spacer
and
old heads???

So its back to MAM I go?




On 3/22/07, Nancy Puff <nancy@rotech.ca> wrote:

YAY I WIN!


Nancy Puff

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
steve whitenect
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:39 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose

Nancy beat me to it!!

Steve

From: "Nancy Puff" <nancy@rotech.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:27:31 -0700

Hi Fred


You are by far not the only one that has asked that question If you
have a hole drilled in the spacer you need a 90 deg valve with an
extension If you have a hole drilled in the wheel rim you need a
straight valve with no extension.



Nancy Puff

-----Original Message-----
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Fred Messinger (fredm)
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:51 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] JDM wheels, tires and tubes on a moose

Hi All,
I couldn't find anything about this in the archives - which may mean
that no one else had this question which, in turn, may mean I'm a
moron.....

For a for a moose with the standard JDM wheel rims and tires that
come from
MAM, how do I get the tube stem to the outside of the wheel? Do I

have

to
dril a hole in the cylinder and use a stem extension?

Thanks,

Fred
Moose 295




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Hi All,
I couldn't find anything about this in the archives - which may mean that no
one else had this question which, in turn, may mean I'm a moron.....

For a for a moose with the standard JDM wheel rims and tires that come from
MAM, how do I get the tube stem to the outside of the wheel? Do I have to
dril a hole in the cylinder and use a stem extension?

Thanks,

Fred
Moose 295

My Rebel JDM's of several years ago came with the bent valve stems and I
had to drill the center wheel cylinder to feed the stem through to the
hole in the wheel end plate. By carefully positioning the hole in the
center cylinder, no additional valve extension was needed providing I
use an offset or angled air chuck. I suppose I should throw a temporary
short extension in my tool kit though. Also note the bulletin on
assembling these wheels so that the brake disc does not wobble
excessively.
Ken

Fred Messinger (fredm) wrote:

Hi All,
I couldn't find anything about this in the archives - which may mean that

no

one else had this question which, in turn, may mean I'm a moron.....

For a for a moose with the standard JDM wheel rims and tires that come

from

MAM, how do I get the tube stem to the outside of the wheel? Do I have

to

dril a hole in the cylinder and use a stem extension?

Thanks,

Fred
Moose 295

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