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Hello Jack,

I have the Positech oil cooloer

I have an oil screen by Aviation Development Corporation, which I like much
better than filters I've had on previous planes.

I've heard that one or two folks used a large oil tank from a diesel truck,
but don't know that for sure.

Ted

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Subject: [rebel-builders] Moose/M-14P FWF Components

Need some help,

A few questions for you folks using the M-14P engine.
1) What OIL COOLER did you settle on (make and size)?
2) Do you have a separate OIL FILTER, or are you relying on the filter
that's in the engine?
3) Is there an after market OIL TANK (14 Qt capacity) available or do people
have to fab their own tank?

Any reply is appreciated-thanks

Jack Joos SR193



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Hello Ted,

Thanks for the info. Yes it appears the oil tank may be a problem. I found

Jack Joos



-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Ted Waltman" <tedwaltman@i1ci.com>

Hello Jack,

I have the Positech oil cooloer

I have an oil screen by Aviation Development Corporation, which I like

better than filters I've had on previous planes.

I've heard that one or two folks used a large oil tank from a diesel

but don't know that for sure.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
lawsondj@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:45 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Moose/M-14P FWF Components

Need some help,

A few questions for you folks using the M-14P engine.
1) What OIL COOLER did you settle on (make and size)?
2) Do you have a separate OIL FILTER, or are you relying on the filter
that's in the engine?
3) Is there an after market OIL TANK (14 Qt capacity) available or do

have to fab their own tank?

Any reply is appreciated-thanks

Jack Joos SR193

Hi Jack ! (Can't say that around the airport !! ;-) )

I thought that Murphy sold an oil tank for the M-14 ... think it
might have been a modified truck air filter tank - tall & cylindrical.

How about George Coy, at Gesoco Ind., in Swanton, VT ????

--
......bobp
http://www.prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 26 February 2007 05:18, lawsondj@comcast.net wrote:

Hello Ted,

Thanks for the info. Yes it appears the oil tank may be a problem. I
found

an old stainless steel oil tank for a military constant speed prop
application. It's about the right size but kind of heavy with huge special
fittings on it. I'd have to cut it apart and rework it pretty extensively.
Probably not worth the effort.

Jack Joos



-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Ted Waltman" <tedwaltman@i1ci.com>

Hello Jack,

I have the Positech oil cooloer

I have an oil screen by Aviation Development Corporation, which I like

much

better than filters I've had on previous planes.

I've heard that one or two folks used a large oil tank from a diesel

truck,

but don't know that for sure.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
lawsondj@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:45 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Moose/M-14P FWF Components

Need some help,

A few questions for you folks using the M-14P engine.
1) What OIL COOLER did you settle on (make and size)?
2) Do you have a separate OIL FILTER, or are you relying on the filter
that's in the engine?
3) Is there an after market OIL TANK (14 Qt capacity) available or do

people

have to fab their own tank?

Any reply is appreciated-thanks

Jack Joos SR193

Hi Jack,


Before leaving Murphy I did some research on upgraded oil coolers for
one company anyways
Positech's still saying that the P010901 is still the best to be used on
the M-14P
Murphy never provided as long as I was there an oil filter in the
firewall forward kits.

However, the Lycoming Engines have some upgrades on the oil coolers.

As for Oil Tanks

Some make their own
Murphy is developing their own at the factory, it was still in the
making when I left there.
There is another Customer whois selling Finished Oil Taniks for the
M-14P but I can't remember his name.(Sorry)

Nancy Puff

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
lawsondj@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 8:45 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Moose/M-14P FWF Components

Need some help,

A few questions for you folks using the M-14P engine.
1) What OIL COOLER did you settle on (make and size)?
2) Do you have a separate OIL FILTER, or are you relying on the filter
that's in the engine?
3) Is there an after market OIL TANK (14 Qt capacity) available or do
people have to fab their own tank?

Any reply is appreciated-thanks

Jack Joos SR193



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Hi Jack ! (Can't say that around the airport !! ;-) )

I thought that Murphy sold an oil tank for the M-14 ... think it
might have been a modified truck air filter tank - tall & cylindrical.

How about George Coy, at Gesoco Ind., in Swanton, VT ????

--
......bobp
http://www.prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 26 February 2007 05:18, lawsondj@comcast.net wrote:

Hello Ted,

Thanks for the info. Yes it appears the oil tank may be a problem. I found

an old stainless steel oil tank for a military constant speed prop
application. It's about the right size but kind of heavy with huge special
fittings on it. I'd have to cut it apart and rework it pretty extensively.
Probably not worth the effort.

Jack Joos



-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Ted Waltman"

Hello Jack,

I have the Positech oil cooloer

I have an oil screen by Aviation Development Corporation, which I like

much

better than filters I've had on previous planes.

I've heard that one or two folks used a large oil tank from a diesel

truck,

but don't know that for sure.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
lawsondj@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:45 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Moose/M-14P FWF Components

Need some help,

A few questions for you folks using the M-14P engine.
1) What OIL COOLER did you settle on (make and size)?
2) Do you have a separate OIL FILTER, or are you relying on the filter
that's in the engine?
3) Is there an after market OIL TANK (14 Qt capacity) available or do

people

have to fab their own tank?

Any reply is appreciated-thanks

Jack Joos SR193

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Don't know for sure that they offer an oil tank but Kimball Enterprises also
has a lot of stuff for the Moose/M14 firewall forward.

www.jimkimballenterprises.com

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson"
To:
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Moose/M-14P FWF Components

Hi Jack ! (Can't say that around the airport !! ;-) )

I thought that Murphy sold an oil tank for the M-14 ... think it
might have been a modified truck air filter tank - tall & cylindrical.

How about George Coy, at Gesoco Ind., in Swanton, VT ????

--
......bobp
http://www.prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 26 February 2007 05:18, lawsondj@comcast.net wrote:

Hello Ted,

Thanks for the info. Yes it appears the oil tank may be a problem. I
found

an old stainless steel oil tank for a military constant speed prop
application. It's about the right size but kind of heavy with huge special
fittings on it. I'd have to cut it apart and rework it pretty extensively.
Probably not worth the effort.

Jack Joos



-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Ted Waltman"

much

truck,

people

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Hello Bob,

If they do sell oil tanks it's sort of a mystery. It's not mentioned on the

for accessories.

I haven't contacted George Coy yet, good idea. However, I have seen

of M-14P oil tanks meant for aerobatic aircraft and they appear too large in

for use with the Murphy engine mount.

Jack
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Bob Patterson <beep@sympatico.ca>

Hi Jack ! (Can't say that around the airport !! ;-) )

I thought that Murphy sold an oil tank for the M-14 ... think it
might have been a modified truck air filter tank - tall & cylindrical.

How about George Coy, at Gesoco Ind., in Swanton, VT ????

--
......bobp
http://www.prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 26 February 2007 05:18, lawsondj@comcast.net wrote:

Hello Ted,

Thanks for the info. Yes it appears the oil tank may be a problem. I

an old stainless steel oil tank for a military constant speed prop
application. It's about the right size but kind of heavy with huge special
fittings on it. I'd have to cut it apart and rework it pretty extensively.
Probably not worth the effort.

Jack Joos



-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Ted Waltman"

much

truck,

people

Hi Jack,


Before leaving Murphy I did some research on upgraded oil coolers for
one company anyways
Positech's still saying that the P010901 is still the best to be used on
the M-14P
Murphy never provided as long as I was there an oil filter in the
firewall forward kits.

However, the Lycoming Engines have some upgrades on the oil coolers.

As for Oil Tanks

Some make their own
Murphy is developing their own at the factory, it was still in the
making when I left there.
There is another Customer whois selling Finished Oil Taniks for the
M-14P but I can't remember his name.(Sorry)

Nancy Puff

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
lawsondj@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 8:45 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Moose/M-14P FWF Components

Need some help,

A few questions for you folks using the M-14P engine.
1) What OIL COOLER did you settle on (make and size)?
2) Do you have a separate OIL FILTER, or are you relying on the filter
that's in the engine?
3) Is there an after market OIL TANK (14 Qt capacity) available or do
people have to fab their own tank?

Any reply is appreciated-thanks

Jack Joos SR193



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Hi Jack !

The website is a sore point !! It IS being completely re-worked,
and will be a much more useful resource very soon now ....

The factory has just completed an aluminum oil tank for the
Moose. It's passed testing, and full production will start soon -
you should be able to get one within about 6 weeks. This tank
is over 8 lb. lighter than the original steel tank they used to sell !

The rings for the engine mounts are getting VERY difficult to
source, that's why Murphy is asking builders to supply them, as
they often come with the engines - and they just can't find any !

Oil coolers are available now, and have been for a while,
directly from Murphy.

--
......bobp
http://www.prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 26 February 2007 18:16, lawsondj@comcast.net wrote:

Hello Bob,

If they do sell oil tanks it's sort of a mystery. It's not mentioned on the

website

for accessories.

I haven't contacted George Coy yet, good idea. However, I have seen

pictures

of M-14P oil tanks meant for aerobatic aircraft and they appear too large in

diameter

for use with the Murphy engine mount.

Jack
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Bob Patterson <beep@sympatico.ca>

Hi Jack ! (Can't say that around the airport !! ;-) )

I thought that Murphy sold an oil tank for the M-14 ... think it
might have been a modified truck air filter tank - tall & cylindrical.

How about George Coy, at Gesoco Ind., in Swanton, VT ????

--
......bobp
http://www.prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 26 February 2007 05:18, lawsondj@comcast.net wrote:

found

an old stainless steel oil tank for a military constant speed prop
application. It's about the right size but kind of heavy with huge special
fittings on it. I'd have to cut it apart and rework it pretty extensively.
Probably not worth the effort. much truck, people

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Hi Jack !

The website is a sore point !! It IS being completely re-worked,
and will be a much more useful resource very soon now ....

The factory has just completed an aluminum oil tank for the
Moose. It's passed testing, and full production will start soon - you
should be able to get one within about 6 weeks. This tank is over 8
lb. lighter than the original steel tank they used to sell !

The rings for the engine mounts are getting VERY difficult to
source, that's why Murphy is asking builders to supply them, as they
often come with the engines - and they just can't find any !

Oil coolers are available now, and have been for a while, directly

from Murphy.

--
......bobp
http://www.prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 26 February 2007 18:16, lawsondj@comcast.net wrote:

Hello Bob,

If they do sell oil tanks it's sort of a mystery. It's not mentioned

on the

website

for accessories.

I haven't contacted George Coy yet, good idea. However, I have

pictures

of M-14P oil tanks meant for aerobatic aircraft and they appear too
large in

diameter

for use with the Murphy engine mount.

Jack
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Bob Patterson <beep@sympatico.ca>

Hi Jack ! (Can't say that around the airport !! ;-) )

I thought that Murphy sold an oil tank for the M-14 ... think it
might have been a modified truck air filter tank - tall &

How about George Coy, at Gesoco Ind., in Swanton, VT ????

--
......bobp
http://www.prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 26 February 2007 05:18, lawsondj@comcast.net wrote:

found

an old stainless steel oil tank for a military constant speed prop

application. It's about the right size but kind of heavy with huge

special fittings on it. I'd have to cut it apart and rework it

Probably not worth the effort. much truck, people

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Hi Jack !

The website is a sore point !! It IS being completely re-worked,
and will be a much more useful resource very soon now ....

The factory has just completed an aluminum oil tank for the
Moose. It's passed testing, and full production will start soon -
you should be able to get one within about 6 weeks. This tank
is over 8 lb. lighter than the original steel tank they used to sell !

The rings for the engine mounts are getting VERY difficult to
source, that's why Murphy is asking builders to supply them, as
they often come with the engines - and they just can't find any !

Oil coolers are available now, and have been for a while,
directly from Murphy.

--
......bobp
http://www.prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 26 February 2007 18:16, lawsondj@comcast.net wrote:

Hello Bob,

If they do sell oil tanks it's sort of a mystery. It's not mentioned on the

website

for accessories.

I haven't contacted George Coy yet, good idea. However, I have seen

pictures

of M-14P oil tanks meant for aerobatic aircraft and they appear too large in

diameter

for use with the Murphy engine mount.

Jack
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Bob Patterson

Hi Jack ! (Can't say that around the airport !! ;-) )

I thought that Murphy sold an oil tank for the M-14 ... think it
might have been a modified truck air filter tank - tall & cylindrical.

How about George Coy, at Gesoco Ind., in Swanton, VT ????

--
......bobp
http://www.prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 26 February 2007 05:18, lawsondj@comcast.net wrote:

found

an old stainless steel oil tank for a military constant speed prop
application. It's about the right size but kind of heavy with huge special
fittings on it. I'd have to cut it apart and rework it pretty extensively.
Probably not worth the effort. much truck, people

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Your right Mike, Kimball Enterprises has a lot of good stuff Moose/M-14P related,
but not oil tanks.

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>

Don't know for sure that they offer an oil tank but Kimball Enterprises also
has a lot of stuff for the Moose/M14 firewall forward.

www.jimkimballenterprises.com

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson"
To:
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Moose/M-14P FWF Components

Hi Jack ! (Can't say that around the airport !! ;-) )

I thought that Murphy sold an oil tank for the M-14 ... think it
might have been a modified truck air filter tank - tall & cylindrical.

How about George Coy, at Gesoco Ind., in Swanton, VT ????

--
......bobp
http://www.prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 26 February 2007 05:18, lawsondj@comcast.net wrote: an old stainless steel oil tank for a military constant speed prop
application. It's about the right size but kind of heavy with huge special
fittings on it. I'd have to cut it apart and rework it pretty extensively.
Probably not worth the effort. much truck, people

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