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[rebel-builders] rivets

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:52 am
by jean.poirier
Hello Ralf

There is a lot of difference between the "standard" Pop rivets and the Avex. I just use Avex. But Spanaur (an industrial distributor)
show "standard Pop" but also "multi-grip" Pop rivets. Very simular to Avex and very different of Standard Pop...

Jean
Rebel 747R

On Tue Feb 20 19:02 , 'Ralph Baker' <rebaker@sc.rr.com> sent:
Jean,
They are similar to women. Just because one may look like another you can bet they don't function the same. If you pull a pop rivet by itself
you will see the mandrel just pulls down inside the barrel, expanding it. If you pull an Avex you will see the barrel shortens first, expands
slightly and only then does the mandrel pull down inside the barrel. Pull a mandrel from each and you will see the pop mandrel is like a finishing
nail while the avex has a flat underside (like a mushroom). That is why the Avex shortens first and the pop doesn't.
The advantage is that the Avex expands to completely fill that carefully drilled hole and tends to pull the sheets tighter, the pop doesn't Pop
rivets are fine for building Porta Potties (take a look next time) but please use Avex for airplanes.
Regards,
Ralph Baker



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[rebel-builders] rivets

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:52 am
by Jesse Jenks
I have seen some in the hardware store that look EXACTLY like Avex. Not a
normal "Pop" rivet.

From: <jean.poirier@oxyportneuf.com>
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To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] rivets
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:24:55 -0500

Hello Ralf

There is a lot of difference between the "standard" Pop rivets and the
Avex. I just use Avex. But Spanaur (an industrial distributor)
show "standard Pop" but also "multi-grip" Pop rivets. Very simular to Avex
and very different of Standard Pop...

Jean
Rebel 747R

On Tue Feb 20 19:02 , 'Ralph Baker' <rebaker@sc.rr.com> sent:
Jean,
They are similar to women. Just because one may look like another you
can bet they don't function the same. If you pull a pop rivet by itself
you will see the mandrel just pulls down inside the barrel, expanding it.
If you pull an Avex you will see the barrel shortens first, expands
slightly and only then does the mandrel pull down inside the barrel. Pull
a mandrel from each and you will see the pop mandrel is like a finishing
nail while the avex has a flat underside (like a mushroom). That is why
the Avex shortens first and the pop doesn't.
The advantage is that the Avex expands to completely fill that carefully
drilled hole and tends to pull the sheets tighter, the pop doesn't Pop
rivets are fine for building Porta Potties (take a look next time) but
please use Avex for airplanes.
Regards,
Ralph Baker



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[rebel-builders] rivets

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:06 pm
by Curtis Langholz
Bob,
I have some extras. I was short a few so ordered 100 from ACS a while back.
Here is my email c120pilot@hotmail.com if you would like to contact me with your info.
Later,
Curtis
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From: rdhall@xplornet.com
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] rivets
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:50:52 -0400

Hi; Iwonder if anyone out there would happen to have eight #5606 stainless rivets. I,ll gladly pay . It seems like too small an order for avdell. Thanks Bob



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[rebel-builders] Rivets

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:37 pm
by Ted Waltman
Someone posted to the list in the last week or two the name of the Canadian
company (I seem to recall). Check the archives.

Aircraft Spruce (in Canada and U.S.) stocks them now.

Ted

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Do we know where Murphy gets there rivets ie: Larger sizes 1613

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[rebel-builders] Rivets

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:37 pm
by TRU-FORM
I'll check thanks

Kelly M. Ewing
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On 2012-01-20, at 2:25 PM, "Ted Waltman" <ted@vafm.org> wrote:
Someone posted to the list in the last week or two the name of the Canadian
company (I seem to recall). Check the archives.

Aircraft Spruce (in Canada and U.S.) stocks them now.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 12:10 PM
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Subject: [rebel-builders] Rivets

Do we know where Murphy gets there rivets ie: Larger sizes 1613

Thanks

Kelly M. Ewing
Enjoy Your Day

(905)-877-9511 ( Office )




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[rebel-builders] Rivets

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:37 pm
by Jeff Micheal
Mattic Industries..... they're on the web. Must contact for pricing and
placing order.
On 2012-01-20 11:19 AM, "TRU-FORM" <kelly@tru-form.ca> wrote:
Do we know where Murphy gets there rivets ie: Larger sizes 1613

Thanks

Kelly M. Ewing
Enjoy Your Day

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[rebel-builders] Rivets

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:37 pm
by TRU-FORM
Thanks Jeff And Ted

Kelly M. Ewing
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On 2012-01-20, at 2:34 PM, Jeff Micheal <westcoastkitplanes@gmail.com> wrote:
Mattic Industries..... they're on the web. Must contact for pricing and
placing order.
On 2012-01-20 11:19 AM, "TRU-FORM" <kelly@tru-form.ca> wrote:
Do we know where Murphy gets there rivets ie: Larger sizes 1613

Thanks

Kelly M. Ewing
Enjoy Your Day

(905)-877-9511 ( Office )




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