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[rebel-builders] Alaska DC-4 emergency landing

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:38 am
by Jesse Jenks
Those are some lucky pilots, and obviously skilled as well. with all the
ways that could have gone bad I find it rather amazing that they walked away
and the 3000 gallons of oil are probably secure.
In looking at the pictures, I wonder (and I am not second guessing their
decission at all, this is only for my own learning) why they chose one of
the more densly treed areas to put it down. There are several areas with
only a few trees. Obviously the trees slowed it down nicely, but it would
not have been my first instinct to put it where they did, knowing you are
sitting on the front end of a molatov cocktail with a lit fuse.
I guess it's something they had considered many times before that day, and
so knew what would work out best.

From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: [rebel-builders] Alaska DC-4 emergency landing
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:22:54 -0900

Here's the story on that, and I uploaded 4 photos that one of our CAP
pilots
took a couple of days ago... just hit new files. I flew down to Nenana
last
Monday with another CAP pilot, but there was a wall of weather all the way
to the ground about 4 miles before the accident site, so we didn't get any
photos.

Mike



Location: Nenana

Case number: 07-4636

Type: Aircraft Crash



Text: On 01/17/2007 at approximately 1640 hours, AST-Cantwell was notified
of a plane crash five miles west of Nenana.



Investigation revealed a DC-4, operated by Brooks Fuel Inc. was on a flight
from Fairbanks International Airport to the Ft. Nixon Mine with 3000
gallons
of heating fuel on board.



While in flight, one of the engines caught fire. The crew, Matt JOHNSON and
Trevor WILLS, were unable to contain the fire which had spread to the wing.



JOHNSON and WILLS attempted to divert to Nenana, but due to the spread of
fire they elected to crash land. A M.A.S.T. helicopter from Ft. Wainwright
on a training mission in the area rescued the crew and took them to
Fairbanks where they declined medical attention.


----- Original Message -----
Yep Mike and I hear a DC-4 did just that yesterday! Expensive way to
harvest
a 1000 feet by 120 of forest though! ;O) Glad both lads walked away.

Wayne


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[rebel-builders] Alaska DC-4 emergency landing

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:38 am
by Wayne G. O'Shea
I'd presume from the experience due to the fact this is the second -4 that
they've lost to fire....what ever was ahead of them was "the" landing spot.
Other factors would be they probably were shooting for as close to the sled
trail as they could....so they could walk home! Prior to their first one
someone else had a wing fire in a -4 and thanks to a sledder on the runway
decided to go around. His wing burnt off on the downwind. There isn't much
time obviously to land NOW and these guys did it well. And yes Jesse...if
you're hauling this stuff around your mind would always be looking for a
landing spot...heck mine is when it's just my ass along for the ride.....

Here's a link to the thread going on on Supercubs.org. Many of these guys
know the outfit/crew etc and speak uncensored.

http://www.supercub.org/phpBB2/viewtopi ... 093#136093

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Jenks" <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Alaska DC-4 emergency landing

Those are some lucky pilots, and obviously skilled as well. with all the
ways that could have gone bad I find it rather amazing that they walked
away
and the 3000 gallons of oil are probably secure.
In looking at the pictures, I wonder (and I am not second guessing their
decission at all, this is only for my own learning) why they chose one of
the more densly treed areas to put it down. There are several areas with
only a few trees. Obviously the trees slowed it down nicely, but it would
not have been my first instinct to put it where they did, knowing you are
sitting on the front end of a molatov cocktail with a lit fuse.
I guess it's something they had considered many times before that day, and
so knew what would work out best.

From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: [rebel-builders] Alaska DC-4 emergency landing
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:22:54 -0900

Here's the story on that, and I uploaded 4 photos that one of our CAP
pilots
took a couple of days ago... just hit new files. I flew down to Nenana
last
Monday with another CAP pilot, but there was a wall of weather all the way
to the ground about 4 miles before the accident site, so we didn't get any
photos.

Mike



Location: Nenana

Case number: 07-4636

Type: Aircraft Crash



Text: On 01/17/2007 at approximately 1640 hours, AST-Cantwell was
notified
of a plane crash five miles west of Nenana.



Investigation revealed a DC-4, operated by Brooks Fuel Inc. was on a
flight
from Fairbanks International Airport to the Ft. Nixon Mine with 3000
gallons
of heating fuel on board.



While in flight, one of the engines caught fire. The crew, Matt JOHNSON
and
Trevor WILLS, were unable to contain the fire which had spread to the
wing.



JOHNSON and WILLS attempted to divert to Nenana, but due to the spread of
fire they elected to crash land. A M.A.S.T. helicopter from Ft. Wainwright
on a training mission in the area rescued the crew and took them to
Fairbanks where they declined medical attention.


----- Original Message -----
Yep Mike and I hear a DC-4 did just that yesterday! Expensive way to
harvest
a 1000 feet by 120 of forest though! ;O) Glad both lads walked away.

Wayne


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[rebel-builders] Alaska DC-4 emergency landing

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:38 am
by Mike Davis
They had turned towards an airport as soon as the engine caught, but when
the wing caught too, they ditched it. And the 3000 gal of fuel oil was
contained... they went in later and pumped it out. They ended up only about
5 miles from the airport they were trying for. Remember too that those
"trees" are really pretty small. They landed in an area of black spruce,
probably nothing there bigger than 3 or 4 inches in diameter.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Jenks" <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:52 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Alaska DC-4 emergency landing

Those are some lucky pilots, and obviously skilled as well. with all the
ways that could have gone bad I find it rather amazing that they walked
away
and the 3000 gallons of oil are probably secure.
In looking at the pictures, I wonder (and I am not second guessing their
decission at all, this is only for my own learning) why they chose one of
the more densly treed areas to put it down. There are several areas with
only a few trees. Obviously the trees slowed it down nicely, but it would
not have been my first instinct to put it where they did, knowing you are
sitting on the front end of a molatov cocktail with a lit fuse.
I guess it's something they had considered many times before that day, and
so knew what would work out best.


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