[rebel-builders] Trimming Cabin Roof
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:34 am
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I have fitted and cleco'd my cabin roof leaving an overhang on both sides.
I
am about to remove, trim and rivet back on. After studying all the photos
of
Elite and Rebel construction that I can find, I see that trimming flush
with
the fuselage is normal. Why not leave a 3/4" overhang between the rear and
front wing attach?
This overhang would be similar to the wing fuel tank skin and allow
material
to screw the wing root fairing into. Good idea/bad idea?
Eric Fogelin
Elite 645
DrewI have fitted and cleco'd my cabin roof leaving an overhang on both sides. I
am about to remove, trim and rivet back on. After studying all the photos of
Elite and Rebel construction that I can find, I see that trimming flush with
the fuselage is normal. Why not leave a 3/4" overhang between the rear and
front wing attach?
This overhang would be similar to the wing fuel tank skin and allow material
to screw the wing root fairing into. Good idea/bad idea?
Eric Fogelin
Elite 645
P.S. Background: I have been on this list since 1999 when I bought my kit.
The first year I completed the tail and wing control surfaces. Then,
standard story, built house, moved, move work shop 3 times... I jumped back
in last June, finished both wings and moving along on the fuselage. 50%
deposit on factory-built 1800 Amphibs due March. Superior XP-360 arriving
February. Goal is to fly to Oshkosh. (Could be fantasy).
Many thanks to all of you on the list. I have been reading and catching up
on many issues in the archives. Mike Betti, in particular, has already asked
all of the questions that I would have asked, blazing an Elite trail for me.
So, I will try to ask unique ones or just get clarification.
Thanks to all...more questions to follow.
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I have fitted and cleco'd my cabin roof leaving an overhang on both sides.
I
am about to remove, trim and rivet back on. After studying all the photos
of
Elite and Rebel construction that I can find, I see that trimming flush
with
the fuselage is normal. Why not leave a 3/4" overhang between the rear and
front wing attach?
This overhang would be similar to the wing fuel tank skin and allow
material
to screw the wing root fairing into. Good idea/bad idea?
Eric Fogelin
Elite 645
_________________________________________________________________From: Drew Dalgleish <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca>
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Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Trimming Cabin Roof
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:37:54 -0500
I didn't have to trim my roof either but I don't see any reason not to
leave an overhang. Just make sure there's enough space to get a nylon sling
around your front wing attach point that's where I lift my plane when
changing from wheels to floats.
At 09:50 PM 1/22/2007 -0800, you wrote:sides. II have fitted and cleco'd my cabin roof leaving an overhang on bothofam about to remove, trim and rivet back on. After studying all the photoswithElite and Rebel construction that I can find, I see that trimming flushandthe fuselage is normal. Why not leave a 3/4" overhang between the rearmaterialfront wing attach?
This overhang would be similar to the wing fuel tank skin and allowkit.to screw the wing root fairing into. Good idea/bad idea?
Eric Fogelin
Elite 645
P.S. Background: I have been on this list since 1999 when I bought mybackThe first year I completed the tail and wing control surfaces. Then,
standard story, built house, moved, move work shop 3 times... I jumpedupin last June, finished both wings and moving along on the fuselage. 50%
deposit on factory-built 1800 Amphibs due March. Superior XP-360 arriving
February. Goal is to fly to Oshkosh. (Could be fantasy).
Many thanks to all of you on the list. I have been reading and catchingaskedon many issues in the archives. Mike Betti, in particular, has alreadyme.all of the questions that I would have asked, blazing an Elite trail forDrewSo, I will try to ask unique ones or just get clarification.
Thanks to all...more questions to follow.
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Eric,
I think it was Wayne who said not to screw the fairings to the cabin, only
the wing. I guess the fear is that with a severe wing flexing event the
cabin roof could be damaged if the fairings are not allowed to move.
Jesse
_________________________________________________________________From: Drew Dalgleish <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Trimming Cabin Roof
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:37:54 -0500
I didn't have to trim my roof either but I don't see any reason not to
leave an overhang. Just make sure there's enough space to get a nylon
sling
around your front wing attach point that's where I lift my plane when
changing from wheels to floats.
At 09:50 PM 1/22/2007 -0800, you wrote:sides. II have fitted and cleco'd my cabin roof leaving an overhang on bothofam about to remove, trim and rivet back on. After studying all the
photoswithElite and Rebel construction that I can find, I see that trimming flushandthe fuselage is normal. Why not leave a 3/4" overhang between the rearmaterialfront wing attach?
This overhang would be similar to the wing fuel tank skin and allowkit.to screw the wing root fairing into. Good idea/bad idea?
Eric Fogelin
Elite 645
P.S. Background: I have been on this list since 1999 when I bought mybackThe first year I completed the tail and wing control surfaces. Then,
standard story, built house, moved, move work shop 3 times... I jumpedupin last June, finished both wings and moving along on the fuselage. 50%
deposit on factory-built 1800 Amphibs due March. Superior XP-360
arriving
February. Goal is to fly to Oshkosh. (Could be fantasy).
Many thanks to all of you on the list. I have been reading and catchingaskedon many issues in the archives. Mike Betti, in particular, has alreadyme.all of the questions that I would have asked, blazing an Elite trail forDrewSo, I will try to ask unique ones or just get clarification.
Thanks to all...more questions to follow.
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Edzakery Jesse. In the event of a wing hit I've seen the cabin take extra
damage that it wouldn't have.... from the fairing being screwed to both the
wing and the fus. I only attach to the wing and let the other side float on
top of the fuselage (with weather strip underneath so it doesn't cut in).
Besides...why drill holes in the fuselage just so you can have water
dripping in thru them!
On the cabin roof trim....It sure makes it easier to build a square cabin if
the skin is the proper width before hand. Not placing it on top of wiggling
structures when over width and then trimming later. It must be whom ever is
working in the MAM shop at the time when this roof skin gets made...as so
far I haven't "lucked out" to get the extra 4" of .020 material. All have
been cut to width in the kits I've done.
X-vent lines and assembling the control horn linkage can become interesting
if you can only access from below. With the cabin roof flush to the FUS-27
it can be tight enough in there to work on fuel fittings on the X-vent, I
sure wouldn't want to lose any working room by leaving the roof hanging over
the gap.
My 2 cents for the penny they're worth,
Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Jenks" <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Trimming Cabin Roof
Eric,
I think it was Wayne who said not to screw the fairings to the cabin, only
the wing. I guess the fear is that with a severe wing flexing event the
cabin roof could be damaged if the fairings are not allowed to move.
Jesse
_________________________________________________________________From: Drew Dalgleish <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Trimming Cabin Roof
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:37:54 -0500
I didn't have to trim my roof either but I don't see any reason not to
leave an overhang. Just make sure there's enough space to get a nylon
sling
around your front wing attach point that's where I lift my plane when
changing from wheels to floats.
At 09:50 PM 1/22/2007 -0800, you wrote: sides. I of with and material kit. back up asked me. Drew
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I think it was Wayne who said not to screw the fairings to the cabin, only
the wing. I guess the fear is that with a severe wing flexing event the
cabin roof could be damaged if the fairings are not allowed to move.
Jesse
_________________________________________________________________From: Drew Dalgleish <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Trimming Cabin Roof
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:37:54 -0500
I didn't have to trim my roof either but I don't see any reason not to
leave an overhang. Just make sure there's enough space to get a nylon
sling
around your front wing attach point that's where I lift my plane when
changing from wheels to floats.
At 09:50 PM 1/22/2007 -0800, you wrote:sides. II have fitted and cleco'd my cabin roof leaving an overhang on bothofam about to remove, trim and rivet back on. After studying all the
photoswithElite and Rebel construction that I can find, I see that trimming flushandthe fuselage is normal. Why not leave a 3/4" overhang between the rearmaterialfront wing attach?
This overhang would be similar to the wing fuel tank skin and allowkit.to screw the wing root fairing into. Good idea/bad idea?
Eric Fogelin
Elite 645
P.S. Background: I have been on this list since 1999 when I bought mybackThe first year I completed the tail and wing control surfaces. Then,
standard story, built house, moved, move work shop 3 times... I jumpedupin last June, finished both wings and moving along on the fuselage. 50%
deposit on factory-built 1800 Amphibs due March. Superior XP-360
arriving
February. Goal is to fly to Oshkosh. (Could be fantasy).
Many thanks to all of you on the list. I have been reading and catchingaskedon many issues in the archives. Mike Betti, in particular, has alreadyme.all of the questions that I would have asked, blazing an Elite trail forDrewSo, I will try to ask unique ones or just get clarification.
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