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Hi Dale,

Don't have a name for you (sorry) but there is a type of pro-seal that is
used for installing the access panels if you think you will want to remove
them in the future and not want to fight the bond strength of regular
pro-seal. It's a standard product used in aviation circles. I believe it was
a reddish orange and I got it from the same people that supplied the regular
and brushable pro-seals we used.

Hope this helps.
Regards,
Don Boardman
Randy Bowers
Moose #130 M-14-PF 400HP MT 102" Beta Aerocet 3400 amphibs
Delta Lake
Rome NY

From: Steve Halvorsen <shalvorsen@sbcglobal.net>
Reply-To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:06:11 -0800 (PST)
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Access panels in fuel tanks

Dale

Proseal the hell out of the plates and BE SURE to use the closed end revits to
hold the plates on.
Key here is to get a good seal use the correct revits for the job.
If the standard revits are used the stems will leak AT SOME TIME.

Steve H
Moose 213

----- Original Message ----
From: Dale Fultz <dfultz17086@earthlink.net>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:13:42 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Access panels in fuel tanks


What is being used on the access panels in the fuel compartments of the
wings to seal them up? Is there a proseal that is used ? I need to get mine
sealed up to fire engine up. I emailed MAM but didn't get a reply and didn't
see anything in the manual.. Thanks Dale SR-033




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DOW 730 is a sealant that the military uses on panels that need frequent
entry ... will work, but is expensive. Over 75US per tube if you can find it,
and it expires quickly also. I have some that I am going to test on my
Grumman alongside with the low adhesion pro-seal on adjacent cover to see
the difference. I HATE cleaning off old pro-seal.

On 11/29/2006 12:59 PM, dboardm3@twcny.rr.com wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Hi Dale,
->
-> Don't have a name for you (sorry) but there is a type of pro-seal that is
-> used for installing the access panels if you think you will want to remove
-> them in the future and not want to fight the bond strength of regular
-> pro-seal. It's a standard product used in aviation circles. I believe it was
-> a reddish orange and I got it from the same people that supplied the
regular
-> and brushable pro-seals we used.
->
-> Hope this helps.
-> Regards,
-> Don Boardman
-> Randy Bowers
-> Moose #130 M-14-PF 400HP MT 102" Beta Aerocet 3400 amphibs
-> Delta Lake
-> Rome NY
->
->
-> > From: Steve Halvorsen <shalvorsen@sbcglobal.net>
-> > Reply-To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> > Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:06:11 -0800 (PST)
-> > To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> > Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Access panels in fuel tanks
-> >
-> > Dale
-> >
-> > Proseal the hell out of the plates and BE SURE to use the closed end
revits to
-> > hold the plates on.
-> > Key here is to get a good seal use the correct revits for the job.
-> > If the standard revits are used the stems will leak AT SOME TIME.
-> >
-> > Steve H
-> > Moose 213
-> >
-> > ----- Original Message ----
-> > From: Dale Fultz <dfultz17086@earthlink.net>
-> > To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:13:42 PM
-> > Subject: [rebel-builders] Access panels in fuel tanks
-> >
-> >
-> > What is being used on the access panels in the fuel compartments of the
-> > wings to seal them up? Is there a proseal that is used ? I need to get
mine
-> > sealed up to fire engine up. I emailed MAM but didn't get a reply and
didn't
-> > see anything in the manual.. Thanks Dale SR-033
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
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On this note. (you brought it up)

What is the best way to remove old proseal?

Thanks,

Brad Hewlett
Saskatoon, SK
bhewlett@sasktel.net



----- Original Message -----
From: <eric.r@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders]Sealant for Access panels in fuel tanks

DOW 730 is a sealant that the military uses on panels that need frequent
entry ... will work, but is expensive. Over 75US per tube if you can find
it,
and it expires quickly also. I have some that I am going to test on my
Grumman alongside with the low adhesion pro-seal on adjacent cover to see
the difference. I HATE cleaning off old pro-seal.

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Scrape, gouge, scrape, gouge, scrape, scuff with scotchbrite ... all using
aluminum homemade scrapers, picks, gougers. Clean up with xylene or
toluene, not MEK, etc. You'll end up with a headache, brain damage, or
death depending on the exposure. I think I only have minor brain damage
since I'm building amphibs and a rebel, own a varieze that I tinker with
constantly, am restoring a Grumman Tiger including engine overhaul, many
stc's upgrades, paint, instruments, radios, etc. Did a Bonanza once and didn't
learn my lesson. ... and a C-310 ... and a midget mustang ... and a Stinson
OK I'll stop now and get back to scraping and gouging the pro-seal in the
Tiger tank.

On 11/30/2006 10:32 AM, bhewlett@sasktel.net wrote to rebel-builders:

-> On this note. (you brought it up)
->
-> What is the best way to remove old proseal?
->
-> Thanks,
->
-> Brad Hewlett
-> Saskatoon, SK
-> bhewlett@sasktel.net
->
->
->
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: <eric.r@dcsol.com>
-> To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:50 AM
-> Subject: Re: [rebel-builders]Sealant for Access panels in fuel tanks
->
->
-> > DOW 730 is a sealant that the military uses on panels that need frequent
-> > entry ... will work, but is expensive. Over 75US per tube if you can find
-> > it,
-> > and it expires quickly also. I have some that I am going to test on my
-> > Grumman alongside with the low adhesion pro-seal on adjacent cover to
see
-> > the difference. I HATE cleaning off old pro-seal.
-> >
-> >
->





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Dale

Was at the hanger today and the product I used for our covers was from:

FlameMaster Corp.
Chem Seal Div.

SealPak Phone: 316-942-6211
2301 N. Hoover
Wichita, KS

On the can: CS 3330 B2-AMS-S-3284 TY.1

Hope this helps,
Don




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Thanks Don ,, Will call tomorrow..I am getting closer and need to fire
engine soon.. Thanks again guys Dale
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