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[rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:04 am
by Bob Patterson
Thanks for the picture, Bob ! This just seems like the easiest
way to run the lines for convenience of installation/maintenance,
and to avoid the low spot at the back. Maybe this'll become the
new 'standard' Rebel installation ! ;-) :-)

I knew this setup would work for the Rebel, but I'm not sure about
Mike's Elite - the Elite has a wider door, and it's a bit different
at the back .... Sure hope it will work for him !

Maybe he could try it with clear plastic tubing taped in place,
& water to see the flow ....

Let us know how it went, please, Mike !
--
......bobp
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
http://apatterson2.qbeautyzone.com
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Wednesday 09 August 2006 12:44 pm, Robert and Olga Johnson wrote:
Hi Ralph and Susan: I have uploaded a picture of my fuel line run that was
incorporated in both Rebel 652 and 725. It is under 206 Rebel fus. or just
look up recent - Fuel line. This method results in a one piece fuel line
from the shut off to the gascolator with no need for a drain sump. The flow
is all down hill to the gascolator even in the sitting position. My fuel
flow tests resulted in 36 GPH on a single line and 54 GPH running both and
that was with only 20 litres of fuel in each tank. The only down side to
this installation is the fuel lines are exposed, however I did not find it
being a problem as you are actually climbing over this point on entry and
exit. Also makes easy inspection. Best regards Bob J
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph Baker" <rebaker@sc.rr.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:44 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] fuel lines

Our Elite has the 8:00 tires and the Moose tailwheel. Fuel line not yet
run but it will go to rear and down behind the door, then forward just
below door sill to front. We looked at avoiding a low point sump at the
rear of the door and could not see how it can be done without a sump. We
will put a sump in every low point. May not be necessary but I will not
take the chance.We get too much condensation here in South Carolina. An
additional concern is the oncoming possibility of alchohol in the mogas
and
the potential water problems that brings.
Rallph Baker



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[rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:04 am
by mbetti
I'm going to set it on it's wheels and see what happens in the next couple days.
Mike Betti
771E

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 15:23:52 +0000, rebel-builders@dcsol.com said:
Thanks for the picture, Bob ! This just seems like the easiest
way to run the lines for convenience of installation/maintenance,
and to avoid the low spot at the back. Maybe this'll become the
new 'standard' Rebel installation ! ;-) :-)

I knew this setup would work for the Rebel, but I'm not sure about
Mike's Elite - the Elite has a wider door, and it's a bit different
at the back .... Sure hope it will work for him !

Maybe he could try it with clear plastic tubing taped in place,
& water to see the flow ....

Let us know how it went, please, Mike !
--
......bobp
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
http://apatterson2.qbeautyzone.com
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Wednesday 09 August 2006 12:44 pm, Robert and Olga Johnson wrote:
Hi Ralph and Susan: I have uploaded a picture of my fuel line run that was
incorporated in both Rebel 652 and 725. It is under 206 Rebel fus. or just
look up recent - Fuel line. This method results in a one piece fuel line
from the shut off to the gascolator with no need for a drain sump. The flow
is all down hill to the gascolator even in the sitting position. My fuel
flow tests resulted in 36 GPH on a single line and 54 GPH running both and
that was with only 20 litres of fuel in each tank. The only down side to
this installation is the fuel lines are exposed, however I did not find it
being a problem as you are actually climbing over this point on entry and
exit. Also makes easy inspection. Best regards Bob J
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph Baker" <rebaker@sc.rr.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:44 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] fuel lines

Our Elite has the 8:00 tires and the Moose tailwheel. Fuel line not yet
run but it will go to rear and down behind the door, then forward just
below door sill to front. We looked at avoiding a low point sump at the
rear of the door and could not see how it can be done without a sump. We
will put a sump in every low point. May not be necessary but I will not
take the chance.We get too much condensation here in South Carolina. An
additional concern is the oncoming possibility of alchohol in the mogas
and
the potential water problems that brings.
Rallph Baker



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[rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:04 am
by Mike Betti
Got my plane on it's wheels and the door sill slopes back about 1" in it's
length, so definately need a drain behind the door opening. Oh well I will
make it work.
Mike Betti
771E

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <beep@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines

Thanks for the picture, Bob ! This just seems like the easiest
way to run the lines for convenience of installation/maintenance,
and to avoid the low spot at the back. Maybe this'll become the
new 'standard' Rebel installation ! ;-) :-)

I knew this setup would work for the Rebel, but I'm not sure about
Mike's Elite - the Elite has a wider door, and it's a bit different
at the back .... Sure hope it will work for him !

Maybe he could try it with clear plastic tubing taped in place,
& water to see the flow ....

Let us know how it went, please, Mike !
--
......bobp
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
http://apatterson2.qbeautyzone.com
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Wednesday 09 August 2006 12:44 pm, Robert and Olga Johnson wrote:
Hi Ralph and Susan: I have uploaded a picture of my fuel line run that
was
incorporated in both Rebel 652 and 725. It is under 206 Rebel fus. or
just
look up recent - Fuel line. This method results in a one piece fuel line
from the shut off to the gascolator with no need for a drain sump. The
flow
is all down hill to the gascolator even in the sitting position. My fuel
flow tests resulted in 36 GPH on a single line and 54 GPH running both
and
that was with only 20 litres of fuel in each tank. The only down side to
this installation is the fuel lines are exposed, however I did not find
it
being a problem as you are actually climbing over this point on entry and
exit. Also makes easy inspection. Best regards Bob J
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph Baker" <rebaker@sc.rr.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:44 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] fuel lines

Our Elite has the 8:00 tires and the Moose tailwheel. Fuel line not
yet
run but it will go to rear and down behind the door, then forward just
below door sill to front. We looked at avoiding a low point sump at
the
rear of the door and could not see how it can be done without a sump.
We
will put a sump in every low point. May not be necessary but I will
not
take the chance.We get too much condensation here in South Carolina.
An
additional concern is the oncoming possibility of alchohol in the mogas
and
the potential water problems that brings.
Rallph Baker



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[rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:04 am
by Bob Patterson
Hi Mike !

Is that slope over and above a line from the top rear to the
bottom front of the sill ?? Note that the fuel line does not run
parallel to the sill, but slopes down at the front ....

Another thought - if necessary, you could always add the
triangular section from the Rebel back into the rear of the
door frame, filling in a triangle at the rear of the door ...
Builders have filled in triangles at the front to allow
strut clearance for swing-up doors, so why not a bit at the
back to simplify fuel line routing ???? :-)
--
......bobp
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
http://apatterson2.qbeautyzone.com
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Thursday 10 August 2006 01:09 am, Mike Betti wrote:
Got my plane on it's wheels and the door sill slopes back about 1" in it's
length, so definately need a drain behind the door opening. Oh well I will
make it work.
Mike Betti
771E

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <beep@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines

Thanks for the picture, Bob ! This just seems like the easiest
way to run the lines for convenience of installation/maintenance,
and to avoid the low spot at the back. Maybe this'll become the
new 'standard' Rebel installation ! ;-) :-)

I knew this setup would work for the Rebel, but I'm not sure about
Mike's Elite - the Elite has a wider door, and it's a bit different
at the back .... Sure hope it will work for him !

Maybe he could try it with clear plastic tubing taped in place,
& water to see the flow ....

Let us know how it went, please, Mike !
--
......bobp
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
http://apatterson2.qbeautyzone.com
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Wednesday 09 August 2006 12:44 pm, Robert and Olga Johnson wrote:
Hi Ralph and Susan: I have uploaded a picture of my fuel line run that
was
incorporated in both Rebel 652 and 725. It is under 206 Rebel fus. or
just
look up recent - Fuel line. This method results in a one piece fuel line
from the shut off to the gascolator with no need for a drain sump. The
flow
is all down hill to the gascolator even in the sitting position. My fuel
flow tests resulted in 36 GPH on a single line and 54 GPH running both
and
that was with only 20 litres of fuel in each tank. The only down side to
this installation is the fuel lines are exposed, however I did not find
it
being a problem as you are actually climbing over this point on entry and
exit. Also makes easy inspection. Best regards Bob J
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph Baker" <rebaker@sc.rr.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:44 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] fuel lines



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[rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:04 am
by mbetti
If I take a line even across the bottom of the sill I will hit the fire wall at the bottom, so my gascolator would have to be mounted under the cowl or firewall if I want it to be the low point.
Mike Betti
771E

On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 02:47:25 +0000, rebel-builders@dcsol.com said:
Hi Mike !

Is that slope over and above a line from the top rear to the
bottom front of the sill ?? Note that the fuel line does not run
parallel to the sill, but slopes down at the front ....

Another thought - if necessary, you could always add the
triangular section from the Rebel back into the rear of the
door frame, filling in a triangle at the rear of the door ...
Builders have filled in triangles at the front to allow
strut clearance for swing-up doors, so why not a bit at the
back to simplify fuel line routing ???? :-)
--
......bobp
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
http://apatterson2.qbeautyzone.com
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Thursday 10 August 2006 01:09 am, Mike Betti wrote:
Got my plane on it's wheels and the door sill slopes back about 1" in it's
length, so definately need a drain behind the door opening. Oh well I will
make it work.
Mike Betti
771E

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <beep@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines

Thanks for the picture, Bob ! This just seems like the easiest
way to run the lines for convenience of installation/maintenance,
and to avoid the low spot at the back. Maybe this'll become the
new 'standard' Rebel installation ! ;-) :-)

I knew this setup would work for the Rebel, but I'm not sure about
Mike's Elite - the Elite has a wider door, and it's a bit different
at the back .... Sure hope it will work for him !

Maybe he could try it with clear plastic tubing taped in place,
& water to see the flow ....

Let us know how it went, please, Mike !
--
......bobp
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
http://apatterson2.qbeautyzone.com
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Wednesday 09 August 2006 12:44 pm, Robert and Olga Johnson wrote:


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[rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:04 am
by Mike Kimball
Not necessarily. Typically, the cowl extends past the bottom of the
firewall to provide an exit for the air in the cowl. There would probably
be enough room for the gascolator to still be above the bottom of the cowl.


Mike
044SR

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
mbetti@up.net
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 3:59 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines


If I take a line even across the bottom of the sill I will hit the fire wall
at the bottom, so my gascolator would have to be mounted under the cowl or
firewall if I want it to be the low point.
Mike Betti
771E

On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 02:47:25 +0000, rebel-builders@dcsol.com said:
Hi Mike !

Is that slope over and above a line from the top rear to the
bottom front of the sill ?? Note that the fuel line does not run
parallel to the sill, but slopes down at the front ....

Another thought - if necessary, you could always add the
triangular section from the Rebel back into the rear of the
door frame, filling in a triangle at the rear of the door ...
Builders have filled in triangles at the front to allow
strut clearance for swing-up doors, so why not a bit at the
back to simplify fuel line routing ???? :-)
--
......bobp
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
http://apatterson2.qbeautyzone.com
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Thursday 10 August 2006 01:09 am, Mike Betti wrote:
Got my plane on it's wheels and the door sill slopes back about 1" in
it's
length, so definately need a drain behind the door opening. Oh well I
will
make it work.
Mike Betti
771E

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <beep@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines

Thanks for the picture, Bob ! This just seems like the easiest
way to run the lines for convenience of installation/maintenance,
and to avoid the low spot at the back. Maybe this'll become the
new 'standard' Rebel installation ! ;-) :-)

I knew this setup would work for the Rebel, but I'm not sure about
Mike's Elite - the Elite has a wider door, and it's a bit different
at the back .... Sure hope it will work for him !

Maybe he could try it with clear plastic tubing taped in place,
& water to see the flow ....

Let us know how it went, please, Mike !
--
......bobp
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
http://apatterson2.qbeautyzone.com
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Wednesday 09 August 2006 12:44 pm, Robert and Olga Johnson wrote:
line
fuel
to
find
and
just
sump.
mogas


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[rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:04 am
by mbetti
What I meant here is, if I want the gascolator to be the low point from the tank, it would entirely have to hang below the bottom of the firewall. Or the fuel line would have to stay above the door sill somehow.
Mike Betti
771E

On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:40:34 -0800, rebel-builders@dcsol.com said:
Not necessarily. Typically, the cowl extends past the bottom of the
firewall to provide an exit for the air in the cowl. There would probably
be enough room for the gascolator to still be above the bottom of the cowl.


Mike
044SR

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
mbetti@up.net
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 3:59 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines


If I take a line even across the bottom of the sill I will hit the fire wall
at the bottom, so my gascolator would have to be mounted under the cowl or
firewall if I want it to be the low point.
Mike Betti
771E

On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 02:47:25 +0000, rebel-builders@dcsol.com said:
Hi Mike !

Is that slope over and above a line from the top rear to the
bottom front of the sill ?? Note that the fuel line does not run
parallel to the sill, but slopes down at the front ....

Another thought - if necessary, you could always add the
triangular section from the Rebel back into the rear of the
door frame, filling in a triangle at the rear of the door ...
Builders have filled in triangles at the front to allow
strut clearance for swing-up doors, so why not a bit at the
back to simplify fuel line routing ???? :-)
--
......bobp
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
http://apatterson2.qbeautyzone.com
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Thursday 10 August 2006 01:09 am, Mike Betti wrote:
Got my plane on it's wheels and the door sill slopes back about 1" in
it's
length, so definately need a drain behind the door opening. Oh well I
will
make it work.
Mike Betti
771E

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <beep@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines

line
fuel
to
find
and
just
sump.
mogas


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[rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:04 am
by mbetti
??????
Mike Betti
771E

On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 10:11:12 -0700, rebel-builders@dcsol.com said:
I thought from reading the archives you didn't want the gascolator to be the
lowest point, so air could escape there?

From: "Ian Donaldson" <allsure@bigpond.net.au>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: [rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:32:19 +1000

G'day

FWIW when I was building my Rebel I forgot about running the fuel lines
until it was too late in the construction to put them under the floor.

What I eventually did was run to run the line down the rear of the door
post, along the sill and then to the gascolator. I then mounted the
gascolator so the bottom of it just sat on the cowl sill.

I have never had any problem with fuel flow or the entrapment of water in
the low point of the pipes. Just occasionally I will take the hoses from
the
gascolator, lift the rear or the Rebel high in the air just to purge the
lines in case some water is trapped. I have never found any water anywhere
in the system.


Regards


Ian Donaldson

: Not necessarily. Typically, the cowl extends past the bottom of the
: firewall to provide an exit for the air in the cowl. There would
probably
: be enough room for the gascolator to still be above the bottom of the
cowl.
:
:
: Mike
: 044SR
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
: mbetti@up.net
: Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 3:59 AM
: To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
: Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines
:
:
: If I take a line even across the bottom of the sill I will hit the fire
wall
: at the bottom, so my gascolator would have to be mounted under the cowl
or
: firewall if I want it to be the low point.
: Mike Betti
: 771E
:
: On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 02:47:25 +0000, rebel-builders@dcsol.com said:
: >
: >Hi Mike !
: >
: > Is that slope over and above a line from the top rear to the
: >bottom front of the sill ?? Note that the fuel line does not run
: >parallel to the sill, but slopes down at the front ....
: >
: > Another thought - if necessary, you could always add the
: >triangular section from the Rebel back into the rear of the
: >door frame, filling in a triangle at the rear of the door ...
: >Builders have filled in triangles at the front to allow
: >strut clearance for swing-up doors, so why not a bit at the
: >back to simplify fuel line routing ???? :-)
: >--
: > ......bobp
: > http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
: > http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
: > http://apatterson2.qbeautyzone.com
: > -------------------------------orig.-------------------------
: > On Thursday 10 August 2006 01:09 am, Mike Betti wrote:
: >> Got my plane on it's wheels and the door sill slopes back about 1" in
: it's
: >> length, so definately need a drain behind the door opening. Oh well I
: will
: >> make it work.
: >> Mike Betti
: >> 771E
: >>
: >> ----- Original Message -----
: >> From: "Bob Patterson" <beep@sympatico.ca>
: >> To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
: >> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:23 AM
: >> Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines
: >>
: >>
: >> >
: >> > Thanks for the picture, Bob ! This just seems like the easiest
: >> > way to run the lines for convenience of installation/maintenance,
: >> > and to avoid the low spot at the back. Maybe this'll become the
: >> > new 'standard' Rebel installation ! ;-) :-)
: >> >
: >> > I knew this setup would work for the Rebel, but I'm not sure about
: >> > Mike's Elite - the Elite has a wider door, and it's a bit different
: >> > at the back .... Sure hope it will work for him !
: >> >
: >> > Maybe he could try it with clear plastic tubing taped in place,
: >> > & water to see the flow ....
: >> >
: >> > Let us know how it went, please, Mike !
: >> > --
: >> > ......bobp
: >> > http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
: >> > http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
: >> > http://apatterson2.qbeautyzone.com
: >> > -------------------------------orig.-------------------------
: >> > On Wednesday 09 August 2006 12:44 pm, Robert and Olga Johnson wrote:
: >> >> Hi Ralph and Susan: I have uploaded a picture of my fuel line run
that
:
: >> >> was
: >> >> incorporated in both Rebel 652 and 725. It is under 206 Rebel fus.
or
: >> >> just
: >> >> look up recent - Fuel line. This method results in a one piece fuel
: line
: >> >> from the shut off to the gascolator with no need for a drain sump.
The
:
: >> >> flow
: >> >> is all down hill to the gascolator even in the sitting position. My
: fuel
: >> >> flow tests resulted in 36 GPH on a single line and 54 GPH running
both
:
: >> >> and
: >> >> that was with only 20 litres of fuel in each tank. The only down
side
: to
: >> >> this installation is the fuel lines are exposed, however I did not
: find
: >> >> it
: >> >> being a problem as you are actually climbing over this point on
entry
: and
: >> >> exit. Also makes easy inspection. Best regards Bob J
: >> >> ----- Original Message -----
: >> >> From: "Ralph Baker" <rebaker@sc.rr.com>
: >> >> To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
: >> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:44 PM
: >> >> Subject: [rebel-builders] fuel lines
: >> >>
: >> >>
: >> >> > Our Elite has the 8:00 tires and the Moose tailwheel. Fuel line
not
:
: >> >> > yet
: >> >> > run but it will go to rear and down behind the door, then forward
: just
: >> >> > below door sill to front. We looked at avoiding a low point sump
at
:
: >> >> > the
: >> >> > rear of the door and could not see how it can be done without a
: sump.
: >> >> > We
: >> >> > will put a sump in every low point. May not be necessary but I
will
:
: >> >> > not
: >> >> > take the chance.We get too much condensation here in South
Carolina.
:
: >> >> > An
: >> >> > additional concern is the oncoming possibility of alchohol in the
: mogas
: >> >> > and
: >> >> > the potential water problems that brings.
: >> >> > Rallph Baker
: >> >> >
: >> >
: >> >
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[rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:04 am
by Ian Donaldson
G'day

FWIW when I was building my Rebel I forgot about running the fuel lines
until it was too late in the construction to put them under the floor.

What I eventually did was run to run the line down the rear of the door
post, along the sill and then to the gascolator. I then mounted the
gascolator so the bottom of it just sat on the cowl sill.

I have never had any problem with fuel flow or the entrapment of water in
the low point of the pipes. Just occasionally I will take the hoses from the
gascolator, lift the rear or the Rebel high in the air just to purge the
lines in case some water is trapped. I have never found any water anywhere
in the system.


Regards


Ian Donaldson

: Not necessarily. Typically, the cowl extends past the bottom of the
: firewall to provide an exit for the air in the cowl. There would probably
: be enough room for the gascolator to still be above the bottom of the
cowl.
:
:
: Mike
: 044SR
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
: mbetti@up.net
: Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 3:59 AM
: To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
: Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines
:
:
: If I take a line even across the bottom of the sill I will hit the fire
wall
: at the bottom, so my gascolator would have to be mounted under the cowl or
: firewall if I want it to be the low point.
: Mike Betti
: 771E
:
: On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 02:47:25 +0000, rebel-builders@dcsol.com said:
: >
: >Hi Mike !
: >
: > Is that slope over and above a line from the top rear to the
: >bottom front of the sill ?? Note that the fuel line does not run
: >parallel to the sill, but slopes down at the front ....
: >
: > Another thought - if necessary, you could always add the
: >triangular section from the Rebel back into the rear of the
: >door frame, filling in a triangle at the rear of the door ...
: >Builders have filled in triangles at the front to allow
: >strut clearance for swing-up doors, so why not a bit at the
: >back to simplify fuel line routing ???? :-)
: >--
: > ......bobp
: > http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
: > http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
: > http://apatterson2.qbeautyzone.com
: > -------------------------------orig.-------------------------
: > On Thursday 10 August 2006 01:09 am, Mike Betti wrote:
: >> Got my plane on it's wheels and the door sill slopes back about 1" in
: it's
: >> length, so definately need a drain behind the door opening. Oh well I
: will
: >> make it work.
: >> Mike Betti
: >> 771E
: >>
: >> ----- Original Message -----
: >> From: "Bob Patterson" <beep@sympatico.ca>
: >> To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
: >> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:23 AM
: >> Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines
: >>
: >>
: >> >
: >> > Thanks for the picture, Bob ! This just seems like the easiest
: >> > way to run the lines for convenience of installation/maintenance,
: >> > and to avoid the low spot at the back. Maybe this'll become the
: >> > new 'standard' Rebel installation ! ;-) :-)
: >> >
: >> > I knew this setup would work for the Rebel, but I'm not sure about
: >> > Mike's Elite - the Elite has a wider door, and it's a bit different
: >> > at the back .... Sure hope it will work for him !
: >> >
: >> > Maybe he could try it with clear plastic tubing taped in place,
: >> > & water to see the flow ....
: >> >
: >> > Let us know how it went, please, Mike !
: >> > --
: >> > ......bobp
: >> > http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
: >> > http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
: >> > http://apatterson2.qbeautyzone.com
: >> > -------------------------------orig.-------------------------
: >> > On Wednesday 09 August 2006 12:44 pm, Robert and Olga Johnson wrote:
: >> >> Hi Ralph and Susan: I have uploaded a picture of my fuel line run
that
:
: >> >> was
: >> >> incorporated in both Rebel 652 and 725. It is under 206 Rebel fus.
or
: >> >> just
: >> >> look up recent - Fuel line. This method results in a one piece fuel
: line
: >> >> from the shut off to the gascolator with no need for a drain sump.
The
:
: >> >> flow
: >> >> is all down hill to the gascolator even in the sitting position. My
: fuel
: >> >> flow tests resulted in 36 GPH on a single line and 54 GPH running
both
:
: >> >> and
: >> >> that was with only 20 litres of fuel in each tank. The only down
side
: to
: >> >> this installation is the fuel lines are exposed, however I did not
: find
: >> >> it
: >> >> being a problem as you are actually climbing over this point on
entry
: and
: >> >> exit. Also makes easy inspection. Best regards Bob J
: >> >> ----- Original Message -----
: >> >> From: "Ralph Baker" <rebaker@sc.rr.com>
: >> >> To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
: >> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:44 PM
: >> >> Subject: [rebel-builders] fuel lines
: >> >>
: >> >>
: >> >> > Our Elite has the 8:00 tires and the Moose tailwheel. Fuel line
not
:
: >> >> > yet
: >> >> > run but it will go to rear and down behind the door, then forward
: just
: >> >> > below door sill to front. We looked at avoiding a low point sump
at
:
: >> >> > the
: >> >> > rear of the door and could not see how it can be done without a
: sump.
: >> >> > We
: >> >> > will put a sump in every low point. May not be necessary but I
will
:
: >> >> > not
: >> >> > take the chance.We get too much condensation here in South
Carolina.
:
: >> >> > An
: >> >> > additional concern is the oncoming possibility of alchohol in the
: mogas
: >> >> > and
: >> >> > the potential water problems that brings.
: >> >> > Rallph Baker
: >> >> >
: >> >
: >> >
: >
: >
: >
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[rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:04 am
by Jesse Jenks
I thought from reading the archives you didn't want the gascolator to be the
lowest point, so air could escape there?

From: "Ian Donaldson" <allsure@bigpond.net.au>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: [rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:32:19 +1000

G'day

FWIW when I was building my Rebel I forgot about running the fuel lines
until it was too late in the construction to put them under the floor.

What I eventually did was run to run the line down the rear of the door
post, along the sill and then to the gascolator. I then mounted the
gascolator so the bottom of it just sat on the cowl sill.

I have never had any problem with fuel flow or the entrapment of water in
the low point of the pipes. Just occasionally I will take the hoses from
the
gascolator, lift the rear or the Rebel high in the air just to purge the
lines in case some water is trapped. I have never found any water anywhere
in the system.


Regards


Ian Donaldson

: Not necessarily. Typically, the cowl extends past the bottom of the
: firewall to provide an exit for the air in the cowl. There would
probably
: be enough room for the gascolator to still be above the bottom of the
cowl.
:
:
: Mike
: 044SR
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
: mbetti@up.net
: Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 3:59 AM
: To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
: Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines
:
:
: If I take a line even across the bottom of the sill I will hit the fire
wall
: at the bottom, so my gascolator would have to be mounted under the cowl
or
: firewall if I want it to be the low point.
: Mike Betti
: 771E
:
: On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 02:47:25 +0000, rebel-builders@dcsol.com said:
: >
: >Hi Mike !
: >
: > Is that slope over and above a line from the top rear to the
: >bottom front of the sill ?? Note that the fuel line does not run
: >parallel to the sill, but slopes down at the front ....
: >
: > Another thought - if necessary, you could always add the
: >triangular section from the Rebel back into the rear of the
: >door frame, filling in a triangle at the rear of the door ...
: >Builders have filled in triangles at the front to allow
: >strut clearance for swing-up doors, so why not a bit at the
: >back to simplify fuel line routing ???? :-)
: >--
: > ......bobp
: > http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
: > http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
: > http://apatterson2.qbeautyzone.com
: > -------------------------------orig.-------------------------
: > On Thursday 10 August 2006 01:09 am, Mike Betti wrote:
: >> Got my plane on it's wheels and the door sill slopes back about 1" in
: it's
: >> length, so definately need a drain behind the door opening. Oh well I
: will
: >> make it work.
: >> Mike Betti
: >> 771E
: >>
: >> ----- Original Message -----
: >> From: "Bob Patterson" <beep@sympatico.ca>
: >> To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
: >> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:23 AM
: >> Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel/Elite - fuel lines
: >>
: >>
: >> >
: >> > Thanks for the picture, Bob ! This just seems like the easiest
: >> > way to run the lines for convenience of installation/maintenance,
: >> > and to avoid the low spot at the back. Maybe this'll become the
: >> > new 'standard' Rebel installation ! ;-) :-)
: >> >
: >> > I knew this setup would work for the Rebel, but I'm not sure about
: >> > Mike's Elite - the Elite has a wider door, and it's a bit different
: >> > at the back .... Sure hope it will work for him !
: >> >
: >> > Maybe he could try it with clear plastic tubing taped in place,
: >> > & water to see the flow ....
: >> >
: >> > Let us know how it went, please, Mike !
: >> > --
: >> > ......bobp
: >> > http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
: >> > http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
: >> > http://apatterson2.qbeautyzone.com
: >> > -------------------------------orig.-------------------------
: >> > On Wednesday 09 August 2006 12:44 pm, Robert and Olga Johnson wrote:
: >> >> Hi Ralph and Susan: I have uploaded a picture of my fuel line run
that
:
: >> >> was
: >> >> incorporated in both Rebel 652 and 725. It is under 206 Rebel fus.
or
: >> >> just
: >> >> look up recent - Fuel line. This method results in a one piece fuel
: line
: >> >> from the shut off to the gascolator with no need for a drain sump.
The
:
: >> >> flow
: >> >> is all down hill to the gascolator even in the sitting position. My
: fuel
: >> >> flow tests resulted in 36 GPH on a single line and 54 GPH running
both
:
: >> >> and
: >> >> that was with only 20 litres of fuel in each tank. The only down
side
: to
: >> >> this installation is the fuel lines are exposed, however I did not
: find
: >> >> it
: >> >> being a problem as you are actually climbing over this point on
entry
: and
: >> >> exit. Also makes easy inspection. Best regards Bob J
: >> >> ----- Original Message -----
: >> >> From: "Ralph Baker" <rebaker@sc.rr.com>
: >> >> To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
: >> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:44 PM
: >> >> Subject: [rebel-builders] fuel lines
: >> >>
: >> >>
: >> >> > Our Elite has the 8:00 tires and the Moose tailwheel. Fuel line
not
:
: >> >> > yet
: >> >> > run but it will go to rear and down behind the door, then forward
: just
: >> >> > below door sill to front. We looked at avoiding a low point sump
at
:
: >> >> > the
: >> >> > rear of the door and could not see how it can be done without a
: sump.
: >> >> > We
: >> >> > will put a sump in every low point. May not be necessary but I
will
:
: >> >> > not
: >> >> > take the chance.We get too much condensation here in South
Carolina.
:
: >> >> > An
: >> >> > additional concern is the oncoming possibility of alchohol in the
: mogas
: >> >> > and
: >> >> > the potential water problems that brings.
: >> >> > Rallph Baker
: >> >> >
: >> >
: >> >
: >
: >
: >
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