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hi all

glad to hear some one besides me is using this stuff, have had it on all
parts of my plane while building several years now and none has come off,
keep us updaed as to how it last on floats

mike#007

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Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 6:57 AM
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Subject: [rebel-builders] Everbrite


I am getting near the point of applying Everbrite to my floats, and
wonder if anybody who has had this material on for some time has an
update on its performance.

Al Hepburn
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Better check the Sikaflex product information material carefully before
applying denatured alcohol.

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Alan
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Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 4:45 PM
To: Rebel Builder
Subject: [rebel-builders] Everbrite

I have just received my Everbrite, which I plan to use to coat my
floats. The prep calls fo using xylene and detanured alcohol. Does
anybody know if these are compatible with the Sikaflex caulk used for
the floats?

Al




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If the intent is to apply the Everbrite as an external surface treatment on
cured Sikaflex, I can't see a problem with the application even if it
contains denatured alcohol. One should not use alcohol as a cleaning agent
when building using Sikaflex as a sealant. The alcohol will delay the
curing process significantly. Acetone is the recommended cleaning agent for
fresh Sikaflex.

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Collin
and Bobbie
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:34 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Everbrite

Better check the Sikaflex product information material carefully before
applying denatured alcohol.

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Hepburn
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 4:45 PM
To: Rebel Builder
Subject: [rebel-builders] Everbrite

I have just received my Everbrite, which I plan to use to coat my
floats. The prep calls fo using xylene and detanured alcohol. Does
anybody know if these are compatible with the Sikaflex caulk used for
the floats?

Al




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Colin:

Thank you for your advice. Yes, it's just for surface prep. on the
floats. Thinking about it, I used acetone for cleanup when I built
them, and that was no problem. The contact between the solvent and the
caulk is minimal anyway.

The Everbrite instructions say you don't have to do any polishing before
application, but I was planning to use some Scotchbrite to get off the
oxidation. The metal looks fine, but there's no doubt that a rub with
Scotchbrite brings it up nicely. However, it's a bit of elbow grease
that I wouldn't mind saving. Comments?

Al






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Any interest in leaving a section bare for awhile so you (we ;) ) can
tell how effective the everbrite is?
Ken

Alan Hepburn wrote:

Colin:

Thank you for your advice. Yes, it's just for surface prep. on the
floats. Thinking about it, I used acetone for cleanup when I built
them, and that was no problem. The contact between the solvent and the
caulk is minimal anyway.

The Everbrite instructions say you don't have to do any polishing before
application, but I was planning to use some Scotchbrite to get off the
oxidation. The metal looks fine, but there's no doubt that a rub with
Scotchbrite brings it up nicely. However, it's a bit of elbow grease
that I wouldn't mind saving. Comments?

Al

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That sounds like an idea. Maybe I'll leave the hatch covers on top of
the floats bare. I only bought a quart of Everbrite, which is supposed
to cover 300 square feet. I plan to do the decks and sides, and see how
much I have left. After that, I'll do the struts.

Stay tuned.






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None, other than I admire your ambition. Good luck with the tried and true
method.
Collin

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Alan
Hepburn
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 5:09 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Everbrite

Colin:

Thank you for your advice. Yes, it's just for surface prep. on the
floats. Thinking about it, I used acetone for cleanup when I built
them, and that was no problem. The contact between the solvent and the
caulk is minimal anyway.

The Everbrite instructions say you don't have to do any polishing before
application, but I was planning to use some Scotchbrite to get off the
oxidation. The metal looks fine, but there's no doubt that a rub with
Scotchbrite brings it up nicely. However, it's a bit of elbow grease
that I wouldn't mind saving. Comments?

Al






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Well, I put the stuff on and it goes on very easily. You don't use much
of it either. I did the decks, sides and rigging on a pair of Montan
2200s, and I'm sure I haven't used half a pint. Now we'll see what it
looks like when it dries, and how long it lasts.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Collin and Bobbie
Sent: June 15, 2006 11:20 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Everbrite


If the intent is to apply the Everbrite as an external surface treatment
on cured Sikaflex, I can't see a problem with the application even if it
contains denatured alcohol. One should not use alcohol as a cleaning
agent when building using Sikaflex as a sealant. The alcohol will delay
the curing process significantly. Acetone is the recommended cleaning
agent for fresh Sikaflex.

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Collin and Bobbie
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:34 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Everbrite

Better check the Sikaflex product information material carefully before
applying denatured alcohol.

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Alan Hepburn
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 4:45 PM
To: Rebel Builder
Subject: [rebel-builders] Everbrite

I have just received my Everbrite, which I plan to use to coat my
floats. The prep calls fo using xylene and detanured alcohol. Does
anybody know if these are compatible with the Sikaflex caulk used for
the floats?

Al




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Thanks Al
I'll get some in for the floats arrival.
Nig

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Alan Hepburn
Sent: 19 November 2006 14:21
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Everbrite


Nigel:

The Everbrite looks as good as the day it went on, but the bottoms of
the floats, which I did not treat, look OK as well. I bought their 2
quart can and had lots left over. I'm rather glad I didn't paint them.
Over the course of the summer, I've done about 35 water landings, and
docked perhaps at 20 different locations, and I've picked up a few dings
and scrapes. The only bit that is painted - the water rudders - had to
get touched up this fall. It would have been a real pain to touch up
all the other areas.

You have the correct location fore Everbrite, and the preparation
material you need (xylene and methyl hydrate) are available at a paint
store.

Al

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
N.Smith
Sent: November 19, 2006 3:23 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Winterproofing Floats


Hi Al

Even getting frost overnight here as well now !

I think Wayne recommended plumbing antifreeze not long ago for that job.
You might be best to contact a tech rep for the sealant and ask his/her
advice !

I wonder if something like ACF50 would displace water, allowing it to
freeze and expand above the ACF50 layer and therefore not harm the
structure below ?

How's the Everbrite holding up ?

I've found it I think at http://www.everbrite.net - is this the correct
stuff ?, and how much would you reckon is needed for both floats and the
support struts ?

Finally - did you ever do the underneath as well - I wonder would it/did
it have any effect on handling ?

Stay warm

Nig
745E

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Alan Hepburn
Sent: 19 November 2006 02:38
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Winterproofing Floats


I am concerned that any moisture in the seams of my flats may freeze and
open them up over winter. I am thinking of adding either a little
antifreeze or a little winshield washer fluid to each compartment. The
washer fluid is cheaper and probably more environmentally friendly. I
wonder if either fluid will soften the Sikaflex caulk in the float
seams. Any ideas?

Al Hepburn





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Looking at my can, I hardly used 1/4 of it, so if you can get less, go
for it.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
N.Smith
Sent: November 20, 2006 4:21 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Everbrite


Thanks Al
I'll get some in for the floats arrival.
Nig

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Alan Hepburn
Sent: 19 November 2006 14:21
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Everbrite


Nigel:

The Everbrite looks as good as the day it went on, but the bottoms of
the floats, which I did not treat, look OK as well. I bought their 2
quart can and had lots left over. I'm rather glad I didn't paint them.
Over the course of the summer, I've done about 35 water landings, and
docked perhaps at 20 different locations, and I've picked up a few dings
and scrapes. The only bit that is painted - the water rudders - had to
get touched up this fall. It would have been a real pain to touch up
all the other areas.

You have the correct location fore Everbrite, and the preparation
material you need (xylene and methyl hydrate) are available at a paint
store.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
N.Smith
Sent: November 19, 2006 3:23 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Winterproofing Floats


Hi Al

Even getting frost overnight here as well now !

I think Wayne recommended plumbing antifreeze not long ago for that job.
You might be best to contact a tech rep for the sealant and ask his/her
advice !

I wonder if something like ACF50 would displace water, allowing it to
freeze and expand above the ACF50 layer and therefore not harm the
structure below ?

How's the Everbrite holding up ?

I've found it I think at http://www.everbrite.net - is this the correct
stuff ?, and how much would you reckon is needed for both floats and the
support struts ?

Finally - did you ever do the underneath as well - I wonder would it/did
it have any effect on handling ?

Stay warm

Nig
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Alan Hepburn
Sent: 19 November 2006 02:38
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Winterproofing Floats


I am concerned that any moisture in the seams of my flats may freeze and
open them up over winter. I am thinking of adding either a little
antifreeze or a little winshield washer fluid to each compartment. The
washer fluid is cheaper and probably more environmentally friendly. I
wonder if either fluid will soften the Sikaflex caulk in the float
seams. Any ideas?

Al Hepburn





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