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[rebel-builders] UK MAM 1800 Amphib float application

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:43 am
by Drew Dalgleish
At 12:03 PM 4/22/2006 +0100, you wrote:
Hi All

Just a quick Thank You to all who helped me over the last few months with
info about their MAM1800 amphib equipped aircraft to apply for their use
here in the UK.

I've managed to compile over 4100 hours of use with no structural problems
from anyone.

I received a letter yesterday from the PFA who manage kit aircraft in the
UK -

"I have examined your submission on the floats, received with your letter of
1st March 06. The information you have collated is very helpful and we don't
anticipate any great problems now in clearing these floats, subject to
satisfactory flight test results on completion.

One point however - could you please advise how these floats measure up
against the enclosed FAR23 requirement relating to surplus buoyancy.

Yours sincerely
Francis Donaldson, PFA engineering"

This is as good as it gets over here - so many thanks again to all who
helped me achieve this result :-)

I'll forward a copy of the spreadsheet I made to anyone who could make use
of it directly rather than post to the forum as it contains contact info
(email address's)

For info though ....

Highest houred floats - 640 on N80353 (ex C-FWSF) with 1065 on the airframe
now !

Nigel
745E
admin@airnig.co.uk
Interesting data Thanks Nigel. It makes me think I have to fly a lot more.




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[rebel-builders] UK MAM 1800 Amphib float application

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:43 am
by Bob Patterson
Hi Nigel !

Thanks for the info ! I would like a copy of your speadsheet, if you
could send it offline - thanks !

I'm surprised than Angus McKenzie's 1800 amphibs weren't the highest
time - they were the first production 1800 kit amphibs, built & flown
by Carmon Titus for, as I recall, over 800 hours ! Carm then sold them
to Angus, who, I'm sure, has added hundreds more hours to them ...

I'm sure you know that the Murphy 1800 amphibs exceed the FAR 23
requirements for excess buoyancy - 100 %, IIRC ...

I sure hope all the other (and future) Murphy builders in England
appreciate all your efforts to pave the way ! You certainly deserve
to enjoy your airplane !! :-)
......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Saturday 22 April 2006 11:03 am, N.Smith wrote:
Hi All

Just a quick Thank You to all who helped me over the last few months with
info about their MAM1800 amphib equipped aircraft to apply for their use
here in the UK.

I've managed to compile over 4100 hours of use with no structural problems
from anyone.

I received a letter yesterday from the PFA who manage kit aircraft in the
UK -

"I have examined your submission on the floats, received with your letter
of 1st March 06. The information you have collated is very helpful and we
don't anticipate any great problems now in clearing these floats, subject
to satisfactory flight test results on completion.

One point however - could you please advise how these floats measure up
against the enclosed FAR23 requirement relating to surplus buoyancy.

Yours sincerely
Francis Donaldson, PFA engineering"

This is as good as it gets over here - so many thanks again to all who
helped me achieve this result :-)

I'll forward a copy of the spreadsheet I made to anyone who could make use
of it directly rather than post to the forum as it contains contact info
(email address's)

For info though ....

Highest houred floats - 640 on N80353 (ex C-FWSF) with 1065 on the airframe
now !

Nigel
745E
admin@airnig.co.uk





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[rebel-builders] UK MAM 1800 Amphib float application

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:43 am
by Angus McKenzie
Hi Bob
My fault, Nigel asked me for the info and I never got up to John Goris'
place to get the log-book and info he required.Poor Rebel's been ignored
since Sept......Sorry Nigel, Angus



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <beep@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] UK MAM 1800 Amphib float application

Hi Nigel !

Thanks for the info ! I would like a copy of your speadsheet, if you
could send it offline - thanks !

I'm surprised than Angus McKenzie's 1800 amphibs weren't the highest
time - they were the first production 1800 kit amphibs, built & flown
by Carmon Titus for, as I recall, over 800 hours ! Carm then sold them
to Angus, who, I'm sure, has added hundreds more hours to them ...

I'm sure you know that the Murphy 1800 amphibs exceed the FAR 23
requirements for excess buoyancy - 100 %, IIRC ...

I sure hope all the other (and future) Murphy builders in England
appreciate all your efforts to pave the way ! You certainly deserve
to enjoy your airplane !! :-)
......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Saturday 22 April 2006 11:03 am, N.Smith wrote:
Hi All

Just a quick Thank You to all who helped me over the last few months with
info about their MAM1800 amphib equipped aircraft to apply for their use
here in the UK.

I've managed to compile over 4100 hours of use with no structural
problems
from anyone.

I received a letter yesterday from the PFA who manage kit aircraft in the
UK -

"I have examined your submission on the floats, received with your letter
of 1st March 06. The information you have collated is very helpful and we
don't anticipate any great problems now in clearing these floats, subject
to satisfactory flight test results on completion.

One point however - could you please advise how these floats measure up
against the enclosed FAR23 requirement relating to surplus buoyancy.

Yours sincerely
Francis Donaldson, PFA engineering"

This is as good as it gets over here - so many thanks again to all who
helped me achieve this result :-)

I'll forward a copy of the spreadsheet I made to anyone who could make
use
of it directly rather than post to the forum as it contains contact info
(email address's)

For info though ....

Highest houred floats - 640 on N80353 (ex C-FWSF) with 1065 on the
airframe
now !

Nigel
745E
admin@airnig.co.uk





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[rebel-builders] UK MAM 1800 Amphib float application

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:43 am
by Bob Patterson
Wasn't picking on you, Angus ! My poor Rebel has been neglected
too - only flew once in March, and now needs a serious wash job, as
the pigeons from next door have moved in and been very active !! :-(

Have had a bad week, with phone service problems and ISP problems -
may have a new email address sooooon ! :-( Not looking forward to
changing everything, but ....
......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Saturday 22 April 2006 06:26 pm, Angus McKenzie wrote:
Hi Bob
My fault, Nigel asked me for the info and I never got up to John Goris'
place to get the log-book and info he required.Poor Rebel's been ignored
since Sept......Sorry Nigel, Angus



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <beep@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] UK MAM 1800 Amphib float application
Hi Nigel !

Thanks for the info ! I would like a copy of your speadsheet, if you
could send it offline - thanks !

I'm surprised than Angus McKenzie's 1800 amphibs weren't the highest
time - they were the first production 1800 kit amphibs, built & flown
by Carmon Titus for, as I recall, over 800 hours ! Carm then sold them
to Angus, who, I'm sure, has added hundreds more hours to them ...

I'm sure you know that the Murphy 1800 amphibs exceed the FAR 23
requirements for excess buoyancy - 100 %, IIRC ...

I sure hope all the other (and future) Murphy builders in England
appreciate all your efforts to pave the way ! You certainly deserve
to enjoy your airplane !! :-)
......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------

On Saturday 22 April 2006 11:03 am, N.Smith wrote:
Hi All

Just a quick Thank You to all who helped me over the last few months
with info about their MAM1800 amphib equipped aircraft to apply for
their use here in the UK.

I've managed to compile over 4100 hours of use with no structural
problems
from anyone.

I received a letter yesterday from the PFA who manage kit aircraft in
the UK -

"I have examined your submission on the floats, received with your
letter of 1st March 06. The information you have collated is very
helpful and we don't anticipate any great problems now in clearing these
floats, subject to satisfactory flight test results on completion.

One point however - could you please advise how these floats measure up
against the enclosed FAR23 requirement relating to surplus buoyancy.

Yours sincerely
Francis Donaldson, PFA engineering"

This is as good as it gets over here - so many thanks again to all who
helped me achieve this result :-)

I'll forward a copy of the spreadsheet I made to anyone who could make
use
of it directly rather than post to the forum as it contains contact info
(email address's)

For info though ....

Highest houred floats - 640 on N80353 (ex C-FWSF) with 1065 on the
airframe
now !

Nigel
745E
admin@airnig.co.uk





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[rebel-builders] UK MAM 1800 Amphib float application

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:43 am
by Angus McKenzie
I didn't feel picked on Bob, just felt bad not to have contributed to
Nigels' cause
We could have a pigeon shoot at your hangar then then pro-seal up the shot
holes in the metal siding and we'll all feel better, ........Angus




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[rebel-builders] UK MAM 1800 Amphib float application

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:43 am
by N.Smith
No prob's Angus - Still a good while away from having an airframe to fit the
floats to :-)

I'd planned on another day working on the wings today - but life get's in
the way so often !!

Nig

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Angus McKenzie
Sent: 22 April 2006 19:26
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] UK MAM 1800 Amphib float application


Hi Bob
My fault, Nigel asked me for the info and I never got up to John Goris'
place to get the log-book and info he required.Poor Rebel's been ignored
since Sept......Sorry Nigel, Angus



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <beep@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] UK MAM 1800 Amphib float application

Hi Nigel !

Thanks for the info ! I would like a copy of your speadsheet, if you
could send it offline - thanks !

I'm surprised than Angus McKenzie's 1800 amphibs weren't the highest
time - they were the first production 1800 kit amphibs, built & flown
by Carmon Titus for, as I recall, over 800 hours ! Carm then sold them
to Angus, who, I'm sure, has added hundreds more hours to them ...

I'm sure you know that the Murphy 1800 amphibs exceed the FAR 23
requirements for excess buoyancy - 100 %, IIRC ...

I sure hope all the other (and future) Murphy builders in England
appreciate all your efforts to pave the way ! You certainly deserve
to enjoy your airplane !! :-)
......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Saturday 22 April 2006 11:03 am, N.Smith wrote:
Hi All

Just a quick Thank You to all who helped me over the last few months with
info about their MAM1800 amphib equipped aircraft to apply for their use
here in the UK.

I've managed to compile over 4100 hours of use with no structural
problems
from anyone.

I received a letter yesterday from the PFA who manage kit aircraft in the
UK -

"I have examined your submission on the floats, received with your letter
of 1st March 06. The information you have collated is very helpful and we
don't anticipate any great problems now in clearing these floats, subject
to satisfactory flight test results on completion.

One point however - could you please advise how these floats measure up
against the enclosed FAR23 requirement relating to surplus buoyancy.

Yours sincerely
Francis Donaldson, PFA engineering"

This is as good as it gets over here - so many thanks again to all who
helped me achieve this result :-)

I'll forward a copy of the spreadsheet I made to anyone who could make
use
of it directly rather than post to the forum as it contains contact info
(email address's)

For info though ....

Highest houred floats - 640 on N80353 (ex C-FWSF) with 1065 on the
airframe
now !

Nigel
745E
admin@airnig.co.uk





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