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Hi Charlie !

You are both right ! As long as it is registered Experimental, you
can always modify it (change engine, etc.) later, and raise the gross
weight. That change is apparently one-way, though - once registered
heavier than LSA, it can never go back .... which really seems silly,
if you re-fitted a lighter engine & reduced weight again ... but maybe
common sense will prevail one day !

In any case, by all means, add the float fittings - they add strength,
and an LSA Rebel CAN go on floats ! Our original 912 Rebel weighed 716 lb,
and was flown happily on Murphy 1500 straight floats - easily <under> LSA
limits, at about 860 lb - leaving 590 lb useful ! I would strongly suggest
just building a <standard> 1,650 Rebel, with all the Ontario Mods, and Wayne's
firewall plates, use the 912 or 912-S, and register it Experimental,
at 1,319 lb gross - end of story ! :-)
You will have a GREAT airplane that will carry anything you want to
take along, and you have the joys of the Sport Pilot licence !
And you can do your own maintenance, and keep the option of selling
to someone who wants to re-engine later.
......bobp

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On Thursday 13 April 2006 10:30 pm, charles eubanks wrote:

Allen
That is my understanding also. I belive that would come under "major
changes" (21.39) and the owner is required to re-establish compliance with
(91.319) Phase II. I intend to register my Rebel as Experimental
but I hope to build it light enough so I can fly it under the LSA
regulations (if and when that time comes). I will also installing the float
fittings just incase the next owner wants to re-engine it and put it on
floats.

Charlie Eubanks
802R
----- Original Message -----
From: "apoulsen" <apoulsen@comcast.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] USA LSA aircraft

FWIW,

I'm building my Rebel for LSA but I wondered about eventual resale to
someone who wants the higher gross so I asked the EAA and the FAA at Sun

N

Fun and of course got two different answers. The guys at EAA insist that

you

can't up the weight later but the FAA said its no problem. I specifically
asked about upping the weight with (re-engine) and without physical

changes

and the FAA was emphatic that its just paperwork either way. Will the
next Fed you ask give a different answer? Who knows.

Allen Poulsen
786R

P.S. Enjoyed meeting and talking with you Ralph. Bob, sorry I didn't get

to

thank you personally for the beer. and I promise to drink more next year.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph Baker" <rebaker@sc.rr.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:33 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] USA LSA aircraft

Bob,
The LSA specs do not require any special resistration. All that is
required is that the aircraft meet the LSA specs. It can be amateur

built

or certified. If it is an SLSA (factory completed) there has to be an
acceptance by the FAA that it complies with the ASTM standards. Not

sure

about the ELSA as that is an unattractive option at present to all
parties.

As far as I know, any Canadian amateur built that is properly
registered and can legally be imported to the USA and registered here
can be flown

by

a Sport Pilot as long as it meets the LSA specs.
Ralph Baker



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