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I'm sorry I missed meeting you guys, I was walking miles and miles looking
for
a rebel on the flight line! I even went to the splash-in hoping for a
float
equipped Rebel there! No luck... The LSA contingent were everywhere! A
friend of mine bought a Zenith quick build kit, that with the builders
assistance available close by can be built in the time it takes me to
shrink the
bulkheads for the 1800 amphibs! I think MAM is missing a great market by
not
making the Rebel a LSA. The Zenith Zodiac LSA is even available IFR
certified ... not my cup of tea, but well done! Now I have to get with it
and
build the rebel and floats before my friend gets too many hours of flying
in.
On 4/11/2006 5:20 AM, rebaker@sc.rr.com wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Not a whole lot of interest to MAM folks. The LSA menu continues to
expand with offering I can't even think about with two exceptions. While
most LSAs are US$75 - 100K the CT starts at US$54K and the Eurofox at
US$50K. They are both nice but I would still build for maintenance and
parts
reasons.
->
-> It was disappointing that MAM did not have a presence as Zenith, Rans,
and all the major europeans players were there. They are ignoring a
market
segment (LSA bushplanes) where the 912 Rebel really has no competition
except maybe Bushcaddy. There is nothing else available with the
combination of fuel capacity, interior space, and perfomance that the
Rebel
offers. If the buyer cannot see and touch the airplane you really aren't
in
the game. There was not a single MAM product that I saw on the grounds.
->
-> Final attendance figures aren't out but the campgrounds were full and I
can't remember that ever happening. Weather was wonderful until Saturday
when it rained hard. At the MAM gathering Thursday (Thanks Bob!) we
enjoyed beer, music, and conversation. There was actually beer left over
so
we need more of you to show up next time.
->
-> See you next year,
-> Ralph Baker





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MAM making the Rebel an LSA for the USA would also open the prospect of it
flying in the equivalent category here in OZ. Is anybody at MAM

Bill
753R
----- Original Message -----
From: <eric.r@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 2:03 AM
Subject: [rebel-builders] RE: News from Sun&Fun

I'm sorry I missed meeting you guys, I was walking miles and miles

for
a rebel on the flight line! I even went to the splash-in hoping for a
float
equipped Rebel there! No luck... The LSA contingent were everywhere! A
friend of mine bought a Zenith quick build kit, that with the builders
assistance available close by can be built in the time it takes me to
shrink the
bulkheads for the 1800 amphibs! I think MAM is missing a great market by
not
making the Rebel a LSA. The Zenith Zodiac LSA is even available IFR
certified ... not my cup of tea, but well done! Now I have to get with

and
build the rebel and floats before my friend gets too many hours of

in.
On 4/11/2006 5:20 AM, rebaker@sc.rr.com wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Not a whole lot of interest to MAM folks. The LSA menu continues to
expand with offering I can't even think about with two exceptions.

most LSAs are US$75 - 100K the CT starts at US$54K and the Eurofox at
US$50K. They are both nice but I would still build for maintenance and
parts
reasons.
->
-> It was disappointing that MAM did not have a presence as Zenith,

and all the major europeans players were there. They are ignoring a
market
segment (LSA bushplanes) where the 912 Rebel really has no competition
except maybe Bushcaddy. There is nothing else available with the
combination of fuel capacity, interior space, and perfomance that the
Rebel
offers. If the buyer cannot see and touch the airplane you really

in
the game. There was not a single MAM product that I saw on the grounds.
->
-> Final attendance figures aren't out but the campgrounds were full and

can't remember that ever happening. Weather was wonderful until

when it rained hard. At the MAM gathering Thursday (Thanks Bob!) we
enjoyed beer, music, and conversation. There was actually beer left

so
we need more of you to show up next time.
->
-> See you next year,
-> Ralph Baker





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I think they wuz listening a long time ago. The Rebel with 912 meets the
LSA
and did when they built FINR in '89. The thing is the logistics of
building
and liability of supplying them flying. That you would have to ask MAM
direct...but yes MAM is always listening.

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Maxwell" <wrmaxwell@bigpond.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] RE: News from Sun&Fun

MAM making the Rebel an LSA for the USA would also open the prospect of
it
flying in the equivalent category here in OZ. Is anybody at MAM

listening?

Bill
753R
----- Original Message -----
From: <eric.r@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 2:03 AM
Subject: [rebel-builders] RE: News from Sun&Fun

I'm sorry I missed meeting you guys, I was walking miles and miles

looking

for
a rebel on the flight line! I even went to the splash-in hoping for a
float
equipped Rebel there! No luck... The LSA contingent were everywhere! A
friend of mine bought a Zenith quick build kit, that with the builders
assistance available close by can be built in the time it takes me to
shrink the
bulkheads for the 1800 amphibs! I think MAM is missing a great market
by
not
making the Rebel a LSA. The Zenith Zodiac LSA is even available IFR
certified ... not my cup of tea, but well done! Now I have to get with

it

and
build the rebel and floats before my friend gets too many hours of

flying

in.
On 4/11/2006 5:20 AM, rebaker@sc.rr.com wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Not a whole lot of interest to MAM folks. The LSA menu continues to
expand with offering I can't even think about with two exceptions.

While

most LSAs are US$75 - 100K the CT starts at US$54K and the Eurofox at
US$50K. They are both nice but I would still build for maintenance and
parts
reasons.
->
-> It was disappointing that MAM did not have a presence as Zenith,

Rans,

and all the major europeans players were there. They are ignoring a
market
segment (LSA bushplanes) where the 912 Rebel really has no competition
except maybe Bushcaddy. There is nothing else available with the
combination of fuel capacity, interior space, and perfomance that the
Rebel
offers. If the buyer cannot see and touch the airplane you really

aren't

in
the game. There was not a single MAM product that I saw on the
grounds.
->
-> Final attendance figures aren't out but the campgrounds were full
and

I

can't remember that ever happening. Weather was wonderful until

Saturday

when it rained hard. At the MAM gathering Thursday (Thanks Bob!) we
enjoyed beer, music, and conversation. There was actually beer left

over

so
we need more of you to show up next time.
->
-> See you next year,
-> Ralph Baker





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I'm not surprised to hear that it meets the LSA with the 912 Wayne and I
think I can understand the hesitation to supply them ready-built. Isn't
there a kit category for LSA in USA? There is here, I'm sure. If that's
the case there would really be no difference in MAM's present market
strategy, just a matter of going through the compliance loops, or am I
missing something major here?

Cheers
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] RE: News from Sun&Fun

I think they wuz listening a long time ago. The Rebel with 912 meets the
LSA
and did when they built FINR in '89. The thing is the logistics of
building
and liability of supplying them flying. That you would have to ask MAM
direct...but yes MAM is always listening.

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Maxwell" <wrmaxwell@bigpond.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] RE: News from Sun&Fun

MAM making the Rebel an LSA for the USA would also open the prospect of
it
flying in the equivalent category here in OZ. Is anybody at MAM

listening?

Bill
753R
----- Original Message -----
From: <eric.r@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 2:03 AM
Subject: [rebel-builders] RE: News from Sun&Fun

looking

it

flying

While

Rans,

aren't

I

Saturday

over

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I'm not surprised to hear that it meets the LSA with the 912 Wayne and I
think I can understand the hesitation to supply them ready-built. Isn't
there a kit category for LSA in USA? There is here, I'm sure. If that's
the case there would really be no difference in MAM's present market
strategy, just a matter of going through the compliance loops, or am I
missing something major here?

Cheers
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] RE: News from Sun&Fun

I think they wuz listening a long time ago. The Rebel with 912 meets the
LSA
and did when they built FINR in '89. The thing is the logistics of
building
and liability of supplying them flying. That you would have to ask MAM
direct...but yes MAM is always listening.

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Maxwell" <wrmaxwell@bigpond.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] RE: News from Sun&Fun

MAM making the Rebel an LSA for the USA would also open the prospect of
it
flying in the equivalent category here in OZ. Is anybody at MAM

listening?

Bill
753R
----- Original Message -----
From: <eric.r@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 2:03 AM
Subject: [rebel-builders] RE: News from Sun&Fun

looking

it

flying

While

Rans,

aren't

I

Saturday

over

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I don't know if you are missing anything Bill. LSA doesn't apply here in
Canada. We've had our own category that LSA was basically copied from for
well over a decade so I really don't follow it in teh US. I was under the
understanding that Murphy was indeed doing the LSA thing with the Rebel,
and
it was even stated on their front page when they had all the 912 Rebels
posted up. Fire Stephane off an email, he'll be quick to answer your
concerns I'm sure.

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Maxwell" <wrmaxwell@bigpond.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] RE: News from Sun&Fun

I'm not surprised to hear that it meets the LSA with the 912 Wayne and I
think I can understand the hesitation to supply them ready-built. Isn't
there a kit category for LSA in USA? There is here, I'm sure. If that's
the case there would really be no difference in MAM's present market
strategy, just a matter of going through the compliance loops, or am I
missing something major here?

Cheers
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] RE: News from Sun&Fun

I think they wuz listening a long time ago. The Rebel with 912 meets the
LSA
and did when they built FINR in '89. The thing is the logistics of
building
and liability of supplying them flying. That you would have to ask MAM
direct...but yes MAM is always listening.

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Maxwell" <wrmaxwell@bigpond.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] RE: News from Sun&Fun

listening? looking

A

builders

with

it flying

to

While

and

Rans,

competition

aren't I Saturday over



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I'm sorry I missed meeting you guys, I was walking miles and miles looking

a rebel on the flight line! I even went to the splash-in hoping for a

equipped Rebel there! No luck... The LSA contingent were everywhere! A
friend of mine bought a Zenith quick build kit, that with the builders
assistance available close by can be built in the time it takes me to

bulkheads for the 1800 amphibs! I think MAM is missing a great market by

making the Rebel a LSA. The Zenith Zodiac LSA is even available IFR
certified ... not my cup of tea, but well done! Now I have to get with it

build the rebel and floats before my friend gets too many hours of flying

On 4/11/2006 5:20 AM, rebaker@sc.rr.com wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Not a whole lot of interest to MAM folks. The LSA menu continues to
expand with offering I can't even think about with two exceptions. While
most LSAs are US$75 - 100K the CT starts at US$54K and the Eurofox at
US$50K. They are both nice but I would still build for maintenance and

reasons.
->
-> It was disappointing that MAM did not have a presence as Zenith, Rans,
and all the major europeans players were there. They are ignoring a

segment (LSA bushplanes) where the 912 Rebel really has no competition
except maybe Bushcaddy. There is nothing else available with the
combination of fuel capacity, interior space, and perfomance that the

offers. If the buyer cannot see and touch the airplane you really aren't

the game. There was not a single MAM product that I saw on the grounds.
->
-> Final attendance figures aren't out but the campgrounds were full and I
can't remember that ever happening. Weather was wonderful until Saturday
when it rained hard. At the MAM gathering Thursday (Thanks Bob!) we
enjoyed beer, music, and conversation. There was actually beer left over

we need more of you to show up next time.
->
-> See you next year,
-> Ralph Baker





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