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Hi Roger !

Why complicate things ?? The sight guages are simple, and work
100 % of the time, without power, and are very accurate !

If you add a small shut-off valve (like the Renegade valve)
at the bottom of the tubes, it's really easy to change the
1/4" clear plastic tubing, if that ever becomes necessary....

Just one opinion - from that opinionated Rebel Guy up north ! ;-)
.... Keep it simple, GET IT FLYING !! ;-) :-)

.....bobp

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On Sunday 12 March 2006 10:14 pm, Roger Cole wrote:

Does anyone have a source for electronic (capacitance type) fuel
gauges? It seems like it would be a lot easier install one before the
wings are skinned than after. What are the pros and cons of the
electronic gauges versus the standard Murphy sight gauges?
---
Roger Cole
Elite 709E
Starting to skin the first wing

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I've been looking all over for fuel shut off valves like you describe -
can't find. Can you help with a source for the 'renegade valve' ???
Tom Anderson

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Patterson
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 9:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Electronic fuel gauges


Hi Roger !

Why complicate things ?? The sight guages are simple, and work
100 % of the time, without power, and are very accurate !

If you add a small shut-off valve (like the Renegade valve)
at the bottom of the tubes, it's really easy to change the
1/4" clear plastic tubing, if that ever becomes necessary....

Just one opinion - from that opinionated Rebel Guy up north ! ;-)
.... Keep it simple, GET IT FLYING !! ;-) :-)

.....bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Sunday 12 March 2006 10:14 pm, Roger Cole wrote:

Does anyone have a source for electronic (capacitance type) fuel
gauges? It seems like it would be a lot easier install one before the
wings are skinned than after. What are the pros and cons of the
electronic gauges versus the standard Murphy sight gauges?
---
Roger Cole
Elite 709E
Starting to skin the first wing

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Roger:

I used the Princeton gauges from ACS. They appear to work very well, and
the installation was simple, though it did involve getting a plate machined
to provide a good solid surface to seal the sensor. They interface with
conventional gauges, or with an EFIS. I did not like the idea of having to
hammer the root ribs flat to take the sight gauge fittings. When I tried
that, I got some small cracks and had to scrap the rib.

I think there are some pics on the archive, or I can upload some more if
you're interested.

Al





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Hi Tom !

This is the fuel valve that Murphy supply for the Renegade biplane.
I think it's 1/4" .... Was also used on the original Rebel. It's
just a simple on/off quarter turn valve, with about a 1" handle.

I've used these, and simple clear plastic fuel line sight guages,
for most of 16 years, with mogas and avgas with no problems. The
sight guages usually need replacement after about 3 or 4 years -
more often if you get 'bad' gas - had that in both avgas & mogas -
some old solvents, or diesel, in the tank ???!!
......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 13 March 2006 05:01 am, Tom Anderson wrote:

I've been looking all over for fuel shut off valves like you describe -
can't find. Can you help with a source for the 'renegade valve' ???
Tom Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Patterson
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 9:33 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Electronic fuel gauges


Hi Roger !

Why complicate things ?? The sight guages are simple, and work
100 % of the time, without power, and are very accurate !

If you add a small shut-off valve (like the Renegade valve)
at the bottom of the tubes, it's really easy to change the
1/4" clear plastic tubing, if that ever becomes necessary....

Just one opinion - from that opinionated Rebel Guy up north ! ;-)
.... Keep it simple, GET IT FLYING !! ;-) :-)

.....bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------

On Sunday 12 March 2006 10:14 pm, Roger Cole wrote:

Does anyone have a source for electronic (capacitance type) fuel
gauges? It seems like it would be a lot easier install one before the
wings are skinned than after. What are the pros and cons of the
electronic gauges versus the standard Murphy sight gauges?
---
Roger Cole
Elite 709E
Starting to skin the first wing

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Thanks to all of you who replied. I haven't made a decision yet, but
the info you gave was helpful.
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Roger Cole
Elite 709E, skinning the first wing




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