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As I research and build on rebel 009, I still find time to think about the
future of 009. What will it look like and how will it perform?
Can you guys tell me, what types of floats are out there for 009? are the
mam floats the better or is there another one that is being used?
I hope to go with anphibs but may go straight? depending on the ending
budget!
Any advice?
Dave T.
Rebel 009
confused in Michigan





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From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] types of floats
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:07:13 -0500

Nothing wrong with the MAM 1800's ! Lightness is what makes these machines
get into the sky and at between 258 and 280 lbs (depending on vintage and
skin thicknesses) you can't go wrong with the MAM 1800 amphibs. The only
Certified comparable size amphib out there is the Whip 2100's and they are
around 435lb. The MAM1800 straights....each barrel can be lifted with one
hand. I have a set tucked away here that nobody seems to want for unknown
reasons (everyone around here's on amphibs!). So may still have them when
you get there! A messly $13,500Cdn CASH (including attach gear and
rigging!)
and not far for you to drive and pick them up from Michigan.

Wayne

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From: "David L. Tuck" <dltuck53@hotmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:58 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] types of floats

As I research and build on rebel 009, I still find time to think about

the

future of 009. What will it look like and how will it perform?
Can you guys tell me, what types of floats are out there for 009? are

the

mam floats the better or is there another one that is being used?
I hope to go with anphibs but may go straight? depending on the ending
budget!
Any advice?
Dave T.
Rebel 009
confused in Michigan





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Wayne thanks for the advise on the floats. wouldn't the rebel on straight
floats accept the 1500's ? I see people talking about the montana's ?

are they? and what about czech's ?
I wouldn't mind doing straight floats, but I don't have a good place to
leave the plane when on floats as I don't live on a lake, even though I'm
located on the largest inland lake in Michigan. Thanks again and I do

the info that I get from the site.
Confused in Michigan
Dave T rebel #009

From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] types of floats
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:07:13 -0500

Nothing wrong with the MAM 1800's ! Lightness is what makes these

get into the sky and at between 258 and 280 lbs (depending on vintage and
skin thicknesses) you can't go wrong with the MAM 1800 amphibs. The only
Certified comparable size amphib out there is the Whip 2100's and they

around 435lb. The MAM1800 straights....each barrel can be lifted with one
hand. I have a set tucked away here that nobody seems to want for unknown
reasons (everyone around here's on amphibs!). So may still have them when
you get there! A messly $13,500Cdn CASH (including attach gear and
rigging!)
and not far for you to drive and pick them up from Michigan.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Tuck" <dltuck53@hotmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:58 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] types of floats

As I research and build on rebel 009, I still find time to think about

the

future of 009. What will it look like and how will it perform?
Can you guys tell me, what types of floats are out there for 009? are

the

mam floats the better or is there another one that is being used?
I hope to go with anphibs but may go straight? depending on the ending
budget!
Any advice?
Dave T.
Rebel 009
confused in Michigan





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From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Sent: Feb 22, 2006 8:43 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] types of floats

MAM 1500's are limited in the floatation department. Not so much static
displacement...but the fact that they are too short. They sit fine at the
dock (well out of the water),,,,but as soon as you start the engine up the
noses of the floats get pulled flat and they plow. The 1800's are 21 inches
longer and it's pretty much all on the nose. They(1800's) have a 4 foot long
step area and the 1500's are just a tad over 2 feet at the step. Makes for a
very short sweet spot on the 1500's. If you were running a 912 on the nose
the 1500's would work nicely, but you need the 1800's with a lycoming on the
nose.

Montana's are 2200/2250 floats. No need for anything that big on the Rebel.
They are also close +/- to 400 lbs for the amphibs. Czech floats are Zenair
derivatives and I've never been impressed. They did do a newer style flat
top float similar to Murphy's, but I have no idea how the preform or what
they weigh.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Tuck" <dltuck53@hotmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] types of floats

Wayne thanks for the advise on the floats. wouldn't the rebel on straight
floats accept the 1500's ? I see people talking about the montana's ?

what

are they? and what about czech's ?
I wouldn't mind doing straight floats, but I don't have a good place to
leave the plane when on floats as I don't live on a lake, even though I'm
located on the largest inland lake in Michigan. Thanks again and I do

enjoy

the info that I get from the site.
Confused in Michigan
Dave T rebel #009

From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] types of floats
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:07:13 -0500

Nothing wrong with the MAM 1800's ! Lightness is what makes these

machines

get into the sky and at between 258 and 280 lbs (depending on vintage and
skin thicknesses) you can't go wrong with the MAM 1800 amphibs. The only
Certified comparable size amphib out there is the Whip 2100's and they

are

around 435lb. The MAM1800 straights....each barrel can be lifted with one
hand. I have a set tucked away here that nobody seems to want for unknown
reasons (everyone around here's on amphibs!). So may still have them when
you get there! A messly $13,500Cdn CASH (including attach gear and
rigging!)
and not far for you to drive and pick them up from Michigan.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Tuck" <dltuck53@hotmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:58 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] types of floats

the the



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