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OK Bill !

The problem with all Murphy kits is that there are about 100 different
engines you could use ! You're not stuck with just one or 2 ... and the
choice of engine can be as much as 1/2 the total cost !!

It really depends on the kind of flying you want to do ...

The basic kit stuff is: (all in USD )

Rebel $16,647 USD
Float fittings $ 129
2 pair Skylight doublers @ $81/pair $ 162
1 pair Side window doublers $ 81
Crating $ 537
===========
$17,556
That gets you the complete airframe ! ========

I've assumed you have tools - if not, a basic tool kit is only $644.

If you go with a used O-320, it could add $5,000 to $20,000 -
so you see the problem. If you can pick & price an engine, we can
finish the list ! Of course, Murphy could supply a brand new Lycoming -
but hardly anybody does that at todays prices !! ;-)

.....bobp
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On Friday 17 February 2006 10:30 pm, Blueraven wrote:

I'd like a spreadsheet type page that give the options and including the
diff types of engines with totals.

Its a pain to have to try and figure out what the TOTAL cost is gonna
be sos you can compare.

Now BearHawk sent me a real good list and write up of their plane and
options even tho its fabric im thinking abt it since its so much cheaper
than the Murphy's.

Off Topic:

Fact is, mosts materials are way over designed. Wood steel and
especially welds are all over designed since you cant fig what/who is
gonna install them so th factor of safety is pretty good. Prob 1.2 to
2.0 and sometime more. so's i cant see any of these plane kit folk
supplying less than over designed materials.

wm Harvey
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Thanks Bob that helps.

Now if i added the same engine id put on Bearhawk :

O-540-A4D5, 250 HP at 2575 RPM. $33,556, or

O-360 A1A, 180 hp, similarly equipped. $22,995.

thats the price except floats and electronics.

$17K + ABT $25K + $15K = $57K SAY $60K..AND THATS THE REBEL..

Jesus, this is getting out of hand fast.

whay plane can i buy for say $60 to $75 k? <G>

Yeah i just figured out how to post on the server sos ill stop
responding to off topic type comments.

WRH
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Bob Patterson wrote:

OK Bill !

The problem with all Murphy kits is that there are about 100 different
engines you could use ! You're not stuck with just one or 2 ... and the
choice of engine can be as much as 1/2 the total cost !!

It really depends on the kind of flying you want to do ...

The basic kit stuff is: (all in USD )

Rebel $16,647 USD
Float fittings $ 129
2 pair Skylight doublers @ $81/pair $ 162
1 pair Side window doublers $ 81
Crating $ 537
===========
$17,556
That gets you the complete airframe ! ========

I've assumed you have tools - if not, a basic tool kit is only $644.

If you go with a used O-320, it could add $5,000 to $20,000 -
so you see the problem. If you can pick & price an engine, we can
finish the list ! Of course, Murphy could supply a brand new Lycoming -
but hardly anybody does that at todays prices !! ;-)

.....bobp
PS
Please 'reply' to the current email - if you reply to another,
the TOPIC in the header will be wrong, and folks here count on the
header to tell them what's in the message .....

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Friday 17 February 2006 10:30 pm, Blueraven wrote:

I'd like a spreadsheet type page that give the options and including the
diff types of engines with totals.

Its a pain to have to try and figure out what the TOTAL cost is gonna
be sos you can compare.

Now BearHawk sent me a real good list and write up of their plane and
options even tho its fabric im thinking abt it since its so much cheaper
than the Murphy's.

Off Topic:

Fact is, mosts materials are way over designed. Wood steel and
especially welds are all over designed since you cant fig what/who is
gonna install them so th factor of safety is pretty good. Prob 1.2 to
2.0 and sometime more. so's i cant see any of these plane kit folk
supplying less than over designed materials.

wm Harvey
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What plane can you buy on amphib floats for 65 to 70K? Nothing!On
2/17/2006 7:32 PM, bluedog@ak.net wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Thanks Bob that helps.
->
-> Now if i added the same engine id put on Bearhawk :
->
-> O-540-A4D5, 250 HP at 2575 RPM. $33,556, or
->
-> O-360 A1A, 180 hp, similarly equipped. $22,995.
->
-> thats the price except floats and electronics.
->
-> $17K + ABT $25K + $15K = $57K SAY $60K..AND THATS THE REBEL..
->
-> Jesus, this is getting out of hand fast.
->
-> whay plane can i buy for say $60 to $75 k? <G>
->
-> Yeah i just figured out how to post on the server sos ill stop
-> responding to off topic type comments.
->
-> WRH
-> ===========
->
->
-> Bob Patterson wrote:
-> > OK Bill !
-> >
-> > The problem with all Murphy kits is that there are about 100 different
-> > engines you could use ! You're not stuck with just one or 2 ... and the
-> > choice of engine can be as much as 1/2 the total cost !!
-> >
-> > It really depends on the kind of flying you want to do ...
-> >
-> > The basic kit stuff is: (all in USD )
-> >
-> > Rebel $16,647 USD
-> > Float fittings $ 129
-> > 2 pair Skylight doublers @ $81/pair $ 162
-> > 1 pair Side window doublers $ 81
-> > Crating $ 537
-> > ===========
-> > $17,556
-> > That gets you the complete airframe ! ========
-> >
-> > I've assumed you have tools - if not, a basic tool kit is only $644.
-> >
-> > If you go with a used O-320, it could add $5,000 to $20,000 -
-> > so you see the problem. If you can pick & price an engine, we can
-> > finish the list ! Of course, Murphy could supply a brand new Lycoming -
-> > but hardly anybody does that at todays prices !! ;-)
-> >
-> > .....bobp
-> > PS
-> > Please 'reply' to the current email - if you reply to another,
-> > the TOPIC in the header will be wrong, and folks here count on the
-> > header to tell them what's in the message .....
-> >
-> > -------------------------------orig.-------------------------
-> > On Friday 17 February 2006 10:30 pm, Blueraven wrote:
-> >
-> >>I'd like a spreadsheet type page that give the options and including the
-> >> diff types of engines with totals.
-> >>
-> >>Its a pain to have to try and figure out what the TOTAL cost is gonna
-> >>be sos you can compare.
-> >>
-> >>Now BearHawk sent me a real good list and write up of their plane and
-> >>options even tho its fabric im thinking abt it since its so much cheaper
-> >>than the Murphy's.
-> >>
-> >>Off Topic:
-> >>
-> >>Fact is, mosts materials are way over designed. Wood steel and
-> >>especially welds are all over designed since you cant fig what/who is
-> >>gonna install them so th factor of safety is pretty good. Prob 1.2 to
-> >>2.0 and sometime more. so's i cant see any of these plane kit folk
-> >>supplying less than over designed materials.
-> >>
-> >>wm Harvey
-> >>=====
-> >>
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
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