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From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rebel: What next?
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:05:00 -0500

And then the wheels so it can be moved?

Perhaps one bushing at the lower rudder pivot is sufficient? There
wasn't a lot of meat on that bracket so since I have access to a lathe I
lightly pressed a smaller diameter bushing in instead of an AIL-26.

Outer rib reinforcements on elevator only not the rudder.

I timed the fabric and paint for the Fall when the temperature was
reasonable and bugs were low, but pick up the chemicals if you drive by
anywhere (OSK, Sun'n fun, etc,?) that has them.

Ken

Bob Patterson wrote:

Hi Jim !

Just off the top - looks like finishing up the tail would be a good
place to start. That's a good place to get experience, with smaller

parts.

That's where the manual likes to start new builders... then the

ailerons.

Check archives for the outer rib & skin reinforcements, and possibly
adding AIL-26 (?) bushings now, rather than later ... don't forget the
POGs (large nylon washers), too !
.......bobp

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On Sunday 29 January 2006 11:00 pm, pequeajim@dcsol.com wrote:

Well, I have my Rebel setup in my garage and some tools together. If

you

all recall, this was supposed to be a 90% complete model, but in

studying

what has been done, I believe that estimate to be very optimistic.

I went through the manual and this is what I can best figure out what

was

done up to this point.

Chapter Title Completed
1. Helpful Hints ---
2. Aileron Assembly X
3. Fabric Covering NS
4. Rudder Assembly X
5. Elevator Assembly 80%
6. Elev-Trim Assembly 80%
7. Elev-Rudder Tip Assembly NS
8. Stabilizer Assembly 90%
9. Fin Assembly 90%
10. Wing Assembly X
11. Wet Tank Assembly X
12. Wing Tip NS
13. Fuselage Assembly X
14. 0320 Fuselage Modifications X
15. Float Hard Point Installation X
16. Spring Gear Assembly X
17. Landing Gear N/A
18. Landing Gear Covering N/A
19. Tailskid X
20. Stabilizer Installation X
21. Wing Struts X
22. Wing Strut Fairings NS
23. ontrol Installation NS
24. Stabilizer Faring Installation NS
25. Seat Assembly 60%
26. Seatbelt Installation NS
27. Door Assembly 70%
28. Door Lock Assembly 40%
29. Wing Fairing Installation NS
30. Windshield Installation N/A
31. Skylight Installation NS
32. Pre-Molded Windshield Installation 25%
33. 912 Cowling N/A
34. 912 Engine Installation N/A
35. O-320 Lycoming Engine Installation 60%
36. O-320 Speed Cowling Installation 60%
37. Ultralight Rudder N/A
38. Ultralight Elevator N/A

Instrument Panel Assembly 35%

The work that is completed thus far is supurb, but there are some
modifications that I will be doing like some of the OMs, and the
instrument panel changes to suite my taste.

It looks like he skipped around quite a bit. I'm sure ther were reasons
for that. I am wondering what I should work on next? In looking at

this

list, does it give you guys enough of a clue to offer some suggestions?

Also, I can work in my garage on the aircraft, and by March will have a
pole barn shop completed large enough that I can assemble the complete
aircraft inside and then pull the wings back off before transporting to
the airport.

I guess I'm saying that so that you all know that space in not a
limitation once March rolls around.

thanks
Jim!
Rebel #572




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Ken,
Can you give more details of that bushing? Wall thickness, material, flanged
or not? I was thinking of doing the same thing.
Thanks.
Jesse

From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rebel: What next?
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:05:00 -0500

And then the wheels so it can be moved?

Perhaps one bushing at the lower rudder pivot is sufficient? There
wasn't a lot of meat on that bracket so since I have access to a lathe I
lightly pressed a smaller diameter bushing in instead of an AIL-26.

Outer rib reinforcements on elevator only not the rudder.

I timed the fabric and paint for the Fall when the temperature was
reasonable and bugs were low, but pick up the chemicals if you drive by
anywhere (OSK, Sun'n fun, etc,?) that has them.

From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: rudder hinge bushing
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:23:59 -0500

Jesse
I started with a 3/8" id x 5/8 od bronze bushing (Aircraft Spruce pn
B610-6). It was long enough to chuck. I left maybe 3/32" at one end full
diameter and then turned a section down to about 0.475 od. Parted off a
piece about 1/4" long and that was that - one miniature top hat bearing.
Ken

Jesse Jenks wrote:

Ken,
Can you give more details of that bushing? Wall thickness, material,

flanged

or not? I was thinking of doing the same thing.
Thanks.
Jesse

From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rebel: What next?
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:05:00 -0500

And then the wheels so it can be moved?

Perhaps one bushing at the lower rudder pivot is sufficient? There
wasn't a lot of meat on that bracket so since I have access to a lathe I
lightly pressed a smaller diameter bushing in instead of an AIL-26.

Outer rib reinforcements on elevator only not the rudder.

I timed the fabric and paint for the Fall when the temperature was
reasonable and bugs were low, but pick up the chemicals if you drive by
anywhere (OSK, Sun'n fun, etc,?) that has them.

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Ken,
Can you give more details of that bushing? Wall thickness, material,
flanged
or not? I was thinking of doing the same thing.
Thanks.
Jesse

From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rebel: What next?
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:05:00 -0500

And then the wheels so it can be moved?

Perhaps one bushing at the lower rudder pivot is sufficient? There
wasn't a lot of meat on that bracket so since I have access to a lathe I
lightly pressed a smaller diameter bushing in instead of an AIL-26.

Outer rib reinforcements on elevator only not the rudder.

I timed the fabric and paint for the Fall when the temperature was
reasonable and bugs were low, but pick up the chemicals if you drive by
anywhere (OSK, Sun'n fun, etc,?) that has them.

Ken

Bob Patterson wrote:

Hi Jim !

Just off the top - looks like finishing up the tail would be a
good
place to start. That's a good place to get experience, with smaller

parts.

That's where the manual likes to start new builders... then the

ailerons.

Check archives for the outer rib & skin reinforcements, and possibly
adding AIL-26 (?) bushings now, rather than later ... don't forget the
POGs (large nylon washers), too !
.......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Sunday 29 January 2006 11:00 pm, pequeajim@dcsol.com wrote:

you

studying

was

this

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I was thinking of putting bronze bushings but, when you drill for the

diameter do you have anything left ?as well do you need the OK from Murphy
about the change my MD-RA inspector seems to think so!!!!

Bill
Moose 244
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Jenks" <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 12:16 PM
Subject: rudder hinge bushing

Ken,
Can you give more details of that bushing? Wall thickness, material,
flanged
or not? I was thinking of doing the same thing.
Thanks.
Jesse

From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rebel: What next?
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:05:00 -0500

And then the wheels so it can be moved?

Perhaps one bushing at the lower rudder pivot is sufficient? There
wasn't a lot of meat on that bracket so since I have access to a lathe I
lightly pressed a smaller diameter bushing in instead of an AIL-26.

Outer rib reinforcements on elevator only not the rudder.

I timed the fabric and paint for the Fall when the temperature was
reasonable and bugs were low, but pick up the chemicals if you drive by
anywhere (OSK, Sun'n fun, etc,?) that has them.

Ken

Bob Patterson wrote:
parts. ailerons.

you studying was this

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Sounds like you have an inspector that needs a good slap! There is nothing
in Chapter 549 that says you can't deviate from the kit, design you own
parts..or even pick a gross weight beyond your wildest dreams! The most
they
can make you do is list the modifications or after market parts you made
on
the paperwork for final inspection. Would be absolute nonsense for an
MD-RA
inspector to take a stand against installing a replaceable bushing ...over
wearing one out that is not replaceable.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "pollock" <lbpollock@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: rudder hinge bushing

I was thinking of putting bronze bushings but, when you drill for the

outer

diameter do you have anything left ?as well do you need the OK from
Murphy
about the change my MD-RA inspector seems to think so!!!!

Bill
Moose 244
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Jenks" <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 12:16 PM
Subject: rudder hinge bushing

Ken,
Can you give more details of that bushing? Wall thickness, material,
flanged
or not? I was thinking of doing the same thing.
Thanks.
Jesse

possibly

the

suggestions?

a

complete

to

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Thanks for the info.
I measured the distance of the hinge hole is 1/4 inch from edge,drilling

3/8 outer diameter bushing that leaves 3/16 meat left is that good???
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: rudder hinge bushing

Sounds like you have an inspector that needs a good slap! There is

in Chapter 549 that says you can't deviate from the kit, design you own
parts..or even pick a gross weight beyond your wildest dreams! The most
they
can make you do is list the modifications or after market parts you made
on
the paperwork for final inspection. Would be absolute nonsense for an
MD-RA
inspector to take a stand against installing a replaceable bushing

wearing one out that is not replaceable.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "pollock" <lbpollock@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: rudder hinge bushing

I was thinking of putting bronze bushings but, when you drill for the

outer

diameter do you have anything left ?as well do you need the OK from
Murphy
about the change my MD-RA inspector seems to think so!!!!

Bill
Moose 244
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Jenks" <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 12:16 PM
Subject: rudder hinge bushing

possibly

the

suggestions?

a

complete

to

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Leaves lots considering the bushing is now taking the wear and not the
hinge. Remember the pivot wear/load is inward towards the fin spar. No
load
trying to pull the rudder out the thin section of the bracket.

----- Original Message -----
From: "pollock" <lbpollock@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: rudder hinge bushing

Thanks for the info.
I measured the distance of the hinge hole is 1/4 inch from edge,drilling

out

3/8 outer diameter bushing that leaves 3/16 meat left is that good???
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: rudder hinge bushing

Sounds like you have an inspector that needs a good slap! There is

nothing

in Chapter 549 that says you can't deviate from the kit, design you own
parts..or even pick a gross weight beyond your wildest dreams! The most
they
can make you do is list the modifications or after market parts you
made
on
the paperwork for final inspection. Would be absolute nonsense for an
MD-RA
inspector to take a stand against installing a replaceable bushing

...over

wearing one out that is not replaceable.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "pollock" <lbpollock@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: rudder hinge bushing

outer

lathe

by

a

possibly

forget

the

at

suggestions? a complete

transporting

to



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Thanks for the info.
I measured the distance of the hinge hole is 1/4 inch from edge,drilling out
3/8 outer diameter bushing that leaves 3/16 meat left is that good???
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: rudder hinge bushing

Is that a typo? The hole with no bushing will be 3/8". With a bushing it
is going to be larger. I was starting to get concerned with a half inch
hole and then where do the rivets go if you use an AIL-26? A light press
fit seemed like a better idea than rivets to me.
Ken

pollock wrote:

Thanks for the info.
I measured the distance of the hinge hole is 1/4 inch from edge,drilling
out
3/8 outer diameter bushing that leaves 3/16 meat left is that good???
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: rudder hinge bushing

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