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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:45 pm**

Can anyone tell me what are the advantage's or disadvantage's to the two
gear systems for the Rebel?
I do want to put the bird on anphibs I hope? but will be on some type of
floats for sure!
I ordered the gear from MAM because mine was not in the kit when we dug it
out of the hanger, not sure where they went? But we purchased the new bungee
gear and MAM sent the spring gear instead, So should I send it back or just
put the spring gear on?
Any advice would be of great help.
Thanks everyone.
Dave Tuck/Rebel009

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:45 pm**

Hi Dave !

I would go with what you originally ordered !

Did #009 originally belong to Patty Wheeler ??

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 08:08 pm, David L. Tuck wrote:

Can anyone tell me what are the advantage's or disadvantage's to the two
gear systems for the Rebel?
I do want to put the bird on anphibs I hope? but will be on some type of
floats for sure!
I ordered the gear from MAM because mine was not in the kit when we dug
it out of the hanger, not sure where they went? But we purchased the new
bungee gear and MAM sent the spring gear instead, So should I send it
back or just put the spring gear on?
Any advice would be of great help.
Thanks everyone.
Dave Tuck/Rebel009

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:52 pm**

Yes it did> and still does, we are in a partnership with 009.

From: Bob Patterson <beep@sympatico.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Spring gear vs. Bungee gear
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:39:19 -0500

Hi Dave !

I would go with what you originally ordered !

Did #009 originally belong to Patty Wheeler ??

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 08:08 pm, David L. Tuck wrote:
Can anyone tell me what are the advantage's or disadvantage's to the two
gear systems for the Rebel?
I do want to put the bird on anphibs I hope? but will be on some type of
floats for sure!
I ordered the gear from MAM because mine was not in the kit when we dug
it out of the hanger, not sure where they went? But we purchased the new
bungee gear and MAM sent the spring gear instead, So should I send it
back or just put the spring gear on?
Any advice would be of great help.
Thanks everyone.
Dave Tuck/Rebel009

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:52 pm**

That's great news ! Thought the number sounded familiar !!
It'll be really good to see her flying it !!!!! :-)

Definitely stick with the bungee gear - you can add Wayne's
die spring mod later (next time he's doing a batch of 'em ...).
You likely should upgrade to the new Murphy wheels, brakes,
and axles at the same time, and the new plexi windshield -
save a lot of grief later ! Check the Murphy site for ALL
the Service Bulletins - yours might even be one of the ones
that had the slightly undersized wing skins .... like our
#002 did. Also, order that extra FUS-30 for doubling the orig.,
and about 5 extra ST-28's (the thicker ones ...) to replace ST-31's
in door frame, and FUS-70's for all 8 corner wraps....

There have been quite a few changes before #200 ....
I'm sure Mike Jones might have a few more gotchas - he's #007.

.....bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Thursday 26 January 2006 04:47 am, David L. Tuck wrote:

Yes it did> and still does, we are in a partnership with 009.

From: Bob Patterson <beep@sympatico.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Spring gear vs. Bungee gear
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:39:19 -0500

Hi Dave !

I would go with what you originally ordered !

Did #009 originally belong to Patty Wheeler ??

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------

On Wednesday 25 January 2006 08:08 pm, David L. Tuck wrote:
Can anyone tell me what are the advantage's or disadvantage's to the
two gear systems for the Rebel?
I do want to put the bird on anphibs I hope? but will be on some type
of floats for sure!
I ordered the gear from MAM because mine was not in the kit when we
dug it out of the hanger, not sure where they went? But we purchased
the new bungee gear and MAM sent the spring gear instead, So should I
send it back or just put the spring gear on?
Any advice would be of great help.
Thanks everyone.
Dave Tuck/Rebel009

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:52 pm**

a few gotchas, ya there are a few things to check
will try to make a list of some of the things to be upgraded
biggest thing is wing tanks, do you have plastic tanks or metal parts ??
bunch of other things but will add to my list for tomorrow hopefully

regards

Mike#007

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of Bob
Patterson
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 1:11 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Spring gear vs. Bungee gear

That's great news ! Thought the number sounded familiar !!
It'll be really good to see her flying it !!!!! :-)

Definitely stick with the bungee gear - you can add Wayne's
die spring mod later (next time he's doing a batch of 'em ...).
You likely should upgrade to the new Murphy wheels, brakes,
and axles at the same time, and the new plexi windshield -
save a lot of grief later ! Check the Murphy site for ALL
the Service Bulletins - yours might even be one of the ones
that had the slightly undersized wing skins .... like our
#002 did. Also, order that extra FUS-30 for doubling the orig.,
and about 5 extra ST-28's (the thicker ones ...) to replace ST-31's
in door frame, and FUS-70's for all 8 corner wraps....

There have been quite a few changes before #200 ....
I'm sure Mike Jones might have a few more gotchas - he's #007.

.....bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Thursday 26 January 2006 04:47 am, David L. Tuck wrote:

Yes it did> and still does, we are in a partnership with 009.

From: Bob Patterson <beep@sympatico.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Spring gear vs. Bungee gear
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:39:19 -0500

Hi Dave !

I would go with what you originally ordered !

Did #009 originally belong to Patty Wheeler ??

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------

On Wednesday 25 January 2006 08:08 pm, David L. Tuck wrote:
Can anyone tell me what are the advantage's or disadvantage's to the
two gear systems for the Rebel?
I do want to put the bird on anphibs I hope? but will be on some type
of floats for sure!
I ordered the gear from MAM because mine was not in the kit when we
dug it out of the hanger, not sure where they went? But we purchased
the new bungee gear and MAM sent the spring gear instead, So should I
send it back or just put the spring gear on?
Any advice would be of great help.
Thanks everyone.
Dave Tuck/Rebel009

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:52 pm**

If he's got plastic tanks......throw that shit away now! It wasn't cross
link Poly from my understanding...Ie fuel will evaporate/leach right thru
it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jones, Michael" <Michael.Jones@snclavalin.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 1:13 PM
Subject: RE: Spring gear vs. Bungee gear

a few gotchas, ya there are a few things to check
will try to make a list of some of the things to be upgraded
biggest thing is wing tanks, do you have plastic tanks or metal parts ??
bunch of other things but will add to my list for tomorrow hopefully

regards

Mike#007

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of Bob
Patterson
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 1:11 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Spring gear vs. Bungee gear

That's great news ! Thought the number sounded familiar !!
It'll be really good to see her flying it !!!!! :-)

Definitely stick with the bungee gear - you can add Wayne's
die spring mod later (next time he's doing a batch of 'em ...).
You likely should upgrade to the new Murphy wheels, brakes,
and axles at the same time, and the new plexi windshield -
save a lot of grief later ! Check the Murphy site for ALL
the Service Bulletins - yours might even be one of the ones
that had the slightly undersized wing skins .... like our
#002 did. Also, order that extra FUS-30 for doubling the orig.,
and about 5 extra ST-28's (the thicker ones ...) to replace ST-31's
in door frame, and FUS-70's for all 8 corner wraps....

There have been quite a few changes before #200 ....
I'm sure Mike Jones might have a few more gotchas - he's #007.

.....bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Thursday 26 January 2006 04:47 am, David L. Tuck wrote:
Yes it did> and still does, we are in a partnership with 009.

From: Bob Patterson <beep@sympatico.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Spring gear vs. Bungee gear
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:39:19 -0500

Hi Dave !

I would go with what you originally ordered !

Did #009 originally belong to Patty Wheeler ??

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------

On Wednesday 25 January 2006 08:08 pm, David L. Tuck wrote:

type

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:52 pm**

hey wayne

did you know cecil still has plastic tanks in his flying rebel !!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 1:21 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Spring gear vs. Bungee gear

If he's got plastic tanks......throw that shit away now! It wasn't cross
link Poly from my understanding...Ie fuel will evaporate/leach right thru
it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jones, Michael" <Michael.Jones@snclavalin.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 1:13 PM
Subject: RE: Spring gear vs. Bungee gear

a few gotchas, ya there are a few things to check
will try to make a list of some of the things to be upgraded
biggest thing is wing tanks, do you have plastic tanks or metal parts ??
bunch of other things but will add to my list for tomorrow hopefully

regards

Mike#007

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of Bob
Patterson
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 1:11 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Spring gear vs. Bungee gear

That's great news ! Thought the number sounded familiar !!
It'll be really good to see her flying it !!!!! :-)

Definitely stick with the bungee gear - you can add Wayne's
die spring mod later (next time he's doing a batch of 'em ...).
You likely should upgrade to the new Murphy wheels, brakes,
and axles at the same time, and the new plexi windshield -
save a lot of grief later ! Check the Murphy site for ALL
the Service Bulletins - yours might even be one of the ones
that had the slightly undersized wing skins .... like our
#002 did. Also, order that extra FUS-30 for doubling the orig.,
and about 5 extra ST-28's (the thicker ones ...) to replace ST-31's
in door frame, and FUS-70's for all 8 corner wraps....

There have been quite a few changes before #200 ....
I'm sure Mike Jones might have a few more gotchas - he's #007.

.....bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Thursday 26 January 2006 04:47 am, David L. Tuck wrote:
Yes it did> and still does, we are in a partnership with 009.

From: Bob Patterson <beep@sympatico.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Spring gear vs. Bungee gear
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:39:19 -0500

Hi Dave !

I would go with what you originally ordered !

Did #009 originally belong to Patty Wheeler ??

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------

On Wednesday 25 January 2006 08:08 pm, David L. Tuck wrote:

type

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:53 pm**

Well, I guess I screwed up (AGAIN) since I have the
spring gear. Does anyone know if MAM will accept
returns on these if I exchange them for the bungee
gear? They are still wrapped up since I am no where
near that stage of completion.

Also, How do I know if I have the newer MAM Wheels I
have been reading about on this forum? My kit is
number R661.
Thanks,
Keith

--- Bob Patterson <beep@sympatico.ca> wrote:

That's great news ! Thought the number sounded
familiar !!
It'll be really good to see her flying it !!!!!
:-)

Definitely stick with the bungee gear - you can
add Wayne's
die spring mod later (next time he's doing a batch
of 'em ...).
You likely should upgrade to the new Murphy wheels,
brakes,
and axles at the same time, and the new plexi
windshield -
save a lot of grief later ! Check the Murphy site
for ALL
the Service Bulletins - yours might even be one of
the ones
that had the slightly undersized wing skins ....
like our
#002 did. Also, order that extra FUS-30 for
doubling the orig.,
and about 5 extra ST-28's (the thicker ones ...) to
replace ST-31's
in door frame, and FUS-70's for all 8 corner
wraps....

There have been quite a few changes before #200
....
I'm sure Mike Jones might have a few more gotchas -
he's #007.

.....bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------

On Thursday 26 January 2006 04:47 am, David L. Tuck
wrote:
Yes it did> and still does, we are in a
partnership with 009.

From: Bob Patterson <beep@sympatico.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Spring gear vs. Bungee gear
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:39:19 -0500

Hi Dave !

I would go with what you originally ordered
!
Did #009 originally belong to Patty Wheeler
??
......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------

On Wednesday 25 January 2006 08:08 pm, David L.
Tuck wrote:
disadvantage's to the
but will be on some type
not in the kit when we
went? But we purchased
gear instead, So should I

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:53 pm**

Let me start with some the history here. As for #009 it's been in the hanger
at Patti's since she purchased it back in 1993? it was never started and
since that time some of the parts are missing! we have been able to start
and finish all the control surface's at this time other than the trim tab,
which I have just recieved from MAM, along with the complete landing gear
assembly, wheels and brakes and axels.
As usual MAM has screwed up the order, we ordered the bungee gear and they
sent the spring gear and all the parts. On top of all this MAM sent the
crate to the wrong address! and my parts have been around the USA about
three times since December. So I allmost hate to return them if they will
work? allthought I would like the best for 009,since it has been waiting to
be built since 1993.
I'm hoping for alot of help from all of you out there ? and to this point
you have been a great help to me, as I have never done anything like this
before!
Thanks to all, ahead of time!

1. what is the relationship with my co-owner Bob? Patti W.
2. why should I stay with the bungee gear?
3. as far as the tanks I don't see any plastic tanks?
4. as for the wheels and brakes I may have the newer ones? as we ordered
those too, how do I know what are the newer ones?
Thanks, Dave Tuck co-owner of #009

From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: Spring gear vs. Bungee gear
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:20:32 -0500

If he's got plastic tanks......throw that shit away now! It wasn't cross
link Poly from my understanding...Ie fuel will evaporate/leach right thru
it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jones, Michael" <Michael.Jones@snclavalin.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 1:13 PM
Subject: RE: Spring gear vs. Bungee gear

a few gotchas, ya there are a few things to check
will try to make a list of some of the things to be upgraded
biggest thing is wing tanks, do you have plastic tanks or metal parts ??
bunch of other things but will add to my list for tomorrow hopefully

regards

Mike#007

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of Bob
Patterson
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 1:11 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Spring gear vs. Bungee gear

That's great news ! Thought the number sounded familiar !!
It'll be really good to see her flying it !!!!! :-)

Definitely stick with the bungee gear - you can add Wayne's
die spring mod later (next time he's doing a batch of 'em ...).
You likely should upgrade to the new Murphy wheels, brakes,
and axles at the same time, and the new plexi windshield -
save a lot of grief later ! Check the Murphy site for ALL
the Service Bulletins - yours might even be one of the ones
that had the slightly undersized wing skins .... like our
#002 did. Also, order that extra FUS-30 for doubling the orig.,
and about 5 extra ST-28's (the thicker ones ...) to replace ST-31's
in door frame, and FUS-70's for all 8 corner wraps....

There have been quite a few changes before #200 ....
I'm sure Mike Jones might have a few more gotchas - he's #007.

.....bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Thursday 26 January 2006 04:47 am, David L. Tuck wrote:
Yes it did> and still does, we are in a partnership with 009.

the
type
we
purchased
should
I

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:53 pm**

Old wheel halves are pressed out of aluminum. Mine were anodized gold
with a static load rating way under the Rebel weight. New ones are
machined castings. MAM took mine back on a trade several years ago.
Ken

Keith Leitch wrote:

Well, I guess I screwed up (AGAIN) since I have the
spring gear. Does anyone know if MAM will accept
returns on these if I exchange them for the bungee
gear? They are still wrapped up since I am no where
near that stage of completion.

Also, How do I know if I have the newer MAM Wheels I
have been reading about on this forum? My kit is
number R661.
Thanks,
Keith

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:53 pm**

119R had them but I tossed them before I was tempted...
Ken

Jones, Michael wrote:

hey wayne

did you know cecil still has plastic tanks in his flying rebel !!!!

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:53 pm**

Newer "JDM" wheels are a three piece affair...machined out of billet blocks
for the front/back and an extrusion for the center. 1 1/4" bearings/axles
for the Rebel/Elite and 1 1/2" bearings for the SR/Moose.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Leitch" <im_planecrazy@yahoo.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Spring gear vs. Bungee gear

Well, I guess I screwed up (AGAIN) since I have the
spring gear. Does anyone know if MAM will accept
returns on these if I exchange them for the bungee
gear? They are still wrapped up since I am no where
near that stage of completion.

Also, How do I know if I have the newer MAM Wheels I
have been reading about on this forum? My kit is
number R661.
Thanks,
Keith

--- Bob Patterson <beep@sympatico.ca> wrote:

That's great news ! Thought the number sounded
familiar !!
It'll be really good to see her flying it !!!!!
:-)

Definitely stick with the bungee gear - you can
add Wayne's
die spring mod later (next time he's doing a batch
of 'em ...).
You likely should upgrade to the new Murphy wheels,
brakes,
and axles at the same time, and the new plexi
windshield -
save a lot of grief later ! Check the Murphy site
for ALL
the Service Bulletins - yours might even be one of
the ones
that had the slightly undersized wing skins ....
like our
#002 did. Also, order that extra FUS-30 for
doubling the orig.,
and about 5 extra ST-28's (the thicker ones ...) to
replace ST-31's
in door frame, and FUS-70's for all 8 corner
wraps....

There have been quite a few changes before #200
....
I'm sure Mike Jones might have a few more gotchas -
he's #007.

.....bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Thursday 26 January 2006 04:47 am, David L. Tuck
wrote:
Yes it did> and still does, we are in a
partnership with 009.

!
??
......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
Tuck wrote:
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but will be on some type
not in the kit when we
went? But we purchased
gear instead, So should I

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