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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:37 pm**

Hi Jesse, I don't know if you ever tried cleaning up the proseal around the
rivets like Wayne has mentioned it sure saved me a lot of work. He mentioned
waiting a day or two till it sort dries and rub your finger around the
rivet and it cleans up pretty good that way . At least it worked when I
tried it. Wayne if thats not how you explained it you'll have to explain it
better . Dale SR-033

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:37 pm**

Dale,
I do remember that advice from Wayne, but I was afraid that I would end up
with some remnants that I wouldn't be able to remove easily. I am planning
not to paint, at least not for a while, so I want it to be all clean.
Jesse

From: "Dale Fultz" <dfultz17086@earthlink.net>
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Subject: cleaning up proseal around rivets
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 23:45:31 -0500

Hi Jesse, I don't know if you ever tried cleaning up the proseal around
the
rivets like Wayne has mentioned it sure saved me a lot of work. He
mentioned
waiting a day or two till it sort dries and rub your finger around the
rivet and it cleans up pretty good that way . At least it worked when I
tried it. Wayne if thats not how you explained it you'll have to explain it
better . Dale SR-033

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:37 pm**

When I did mine I don't know how I could of gotten them any cleaner. It
rubbed right off. When I tried to do it before hand the stuff just wanted to
smear so much and I just ended up frustrated. If you are using some kind of
cleaner there is a possibility of it getting under the heads and not sealing
properly also. But it's up to you I was just trying to help if you didn't
catch it before. Dale SR-033

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:37 pm**

MEK and a toothbrush immediately after finishing pulling the rivets - If not
you will pay for it - A stitch in time saves 9

Britt - SR194

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Jesse
Jenks
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:19 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: cleaning up proseal around rivets

Dale,
I do remember that advice from Wayne, but I was afraid that I would end up
with some remnants that I wouldn't be able to remove easily. I am planning
not to paint, at least not for a while, so I want it to be all clean.
Jesse

From: "Dale Fultz" <dfultz17086@earthlink.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: cleaning up proseal around rivets
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 23:45:31 -0500

Hi Jesse, I don't know if you ever tried cleaning up the proseal around
the
rivets like Wayne has mentioned it sure saved me a lot of work. He
mentioned
waiting a day or two till it sort dries and rub your finger around the
rivet and it cleans up pretty good that way . At least it worked when I
tried it. Wayne if thats not how you explained it you'll have to explain it
better . Dale SR-033

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:37 pm**

LOL, I can't wait to hear all the leaking rivet head warnings now!

Mike

----- Original Message -----

MEK and a toothbrush immediately after finishing pulling the rivets - If
not
you will pay for it - A stitch in time saves 9

Britt - SR194

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:40 pm**

I used acetone and torn up strips of old pilot shirts. That cheap polyester
blend is good for something. Seriously though, I'm not worried about
compromising the seal under each rivet head. As Dale says, it takes some
serious elbow grease to remove partially set up Proseal. Solvent evaporates
before it can do much, and from what I've seen Proseal that has come into
contact with acetone before or after curing is just fine. I wish I was
convinced that I could cleanly remove the squeezout after curing. It would
sure be a lot easier, almost fun to peel off all those little O rings. I
have tried to remove cured Proseal from other places, and found it required
more than a thumbnail. That was on areas that had been prepped with
scotchbright and acetone though, whereas the outside of the tank skins are
not, so it may be reasonable in that case. It's all over for me anyway, so
for now goodbye and good riddance to you, Proseal.
Jesse

From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: cleaning up proseal around rivets
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 06:09:43 -0900

LOL, I can't wait to hear all the leaking rivet head warnings now!

Mike

----- Original Message -----

MEK and a toothbrush immediately after finishing pulling the rivets - If
not
you will pay for it - A stitch in time saves 9

Britt - SR194

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:40 pm**

I have used Acetone to build 4 sets of tanks for RV's, never had a tank
leak yet.
-Mike
Moose #289

I used acetone and torn up strips of old pilot shirts. That cheap
polyester
blend is good for something. Seriously though, I'm not worried about
compromising the seal under each rivet head. As Dale says, it takes some
serious elbow grease to remove partially set up Proseal. Solvent
evaporates
before it can do much, and from what I've seen Proseal that has come into
contact with acetone before or after curing is just fine. I wish I was
convinced that I could cleanly remove the squeezout after curing. It would
sure be a lot easier, almost fun to peel off all those little O rings. I
have tried to remove cured Proseal from other places, and found it
required
more than a thumbnail. That was on areas that had been prepped with
scotchbright and acetone though, whereas the outside of the tank skins are
not, so it may be reasonable in that case. It's all over for me anyway, so
for now goodbye and good riddance to you, Proseal.
Jesse

From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: cleaning up proseal around rivets
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 06:09:43 -0900

LOL, I can't wait to hear all the leaking rivet head warnings now!

Mike

----- Original Message -----

MEK and a toothbrush immediately after finishing pulling the rivets -
If
not
you will pay for it - A stitch in time saves 9

Britt - SR194

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:40 pm**

))) Mike!

I NEVER clean anywhere need the rivet heads right after sealing (including
today's 7 hour gooo fest). I'll clean up smug marks and stringy drips on
main panel areas and that's it. You start smearing fresh Proseal / Sikaflex
/ 3M 5200 or what not and U chase it for ever....and also jeopardize the "O
ring" effect under the rivet heads. Oooz out from seams gets really messy if
you try to clean it pre-cure. Don't touch it....wait a day or two and it
peels so easy with no mess once it tacks/cures. Same goes for rivet heads.
Catch it at the right time and a quick rub or finger nail peel does wonders
with no mess or solvent needed.

Cheers,
Wayne

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From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: cleaning up proseal around rivets

LOL, I can't wait to hear all the leaking rivet head warnings now!

Mike

----- Original Message -----

MEK and a toothbrush immediately after finishing pulling the rivets - If
not
you will pay for it - A stitch in time saves 9

Britt - SR194

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