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Steve Halvorsen <shalvorsen@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:43:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Halvorsen <shalvorsen@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Moose: NEW STINGERS! ! ! !
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com

Well guys the time has come.
Dale will be doing a production run of the new stingers next week.

Please confirm your order to Dale before 12-31-05.

Contact Dale at: dfultz17086@earthlink.net A.S.A.P.! !! ! ! ! !! !! !

The cost will not exceed $300.00 US plus the cost of shipping.

The stingers will be made from 6150 spring steel.

There will NOT be another production run for several months ! ! ! ! ! !

We have 14 people that said they want them and 4 maybes.

Dale is fronting the cost to produce the new stingers and can't be making a lot of extras. This is a huge expense for a builder to do for everyone. Lets try and get him the money A.S.A.P. If you don't order now you may have to wait for a few months until another 10 people want them. Sooooo confirm your order now. I have.

Thanks Dale for all the work you have put into this project! ! ! ! ! !!
We all appreciate it.

I hope I haven't offended any one with this notice but, it's the only way I have to reach everyone in a timely fashion.

Steve H
Moose 213






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Dale,

Questions on the new stinger:

- Could you please elaborate a bit for me on the strength, durability,
lifetime fatigue issues for the new stinger out of 6150 vs 4130 like I
have?

- What angle will the stinger be bent at?

- Will you have one or two holes in the forward end? In other words,
one hole for compatibility with the Murphy designed FUS-360 or two holes
for your design of FUS-360?

- Will you pre-drill the two holes at the rear end--the swivel attach
holes--for 1/4" or 3/8" bolts?

Thank you,

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Steve Halvorsen
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 8:49 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Fwd: Moose: NEW STINGERS! ! ! !




Steve Halvorsen <shalvorsen@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Date: Fri, 23 Dec
2005 07:43:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Halvorsen <shalvorsen@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Moose: NEW STINGERS! ! ! !
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com

Well guys the time has come.
Dale will be doing a production run of the new stingers next week.

Please confirm your order to Dale before 12-31-05.

Contact Dale at: dfultz17086@earthlink.net A.S.A.P.! !! ! ! ! !! !!
!

The cost will not exceed $300.00 US plus the cost of shipping.

The stingers will be made from 6150 spring steel.

There will NOT be another production run for several months ! ! ! ! !
!

We have 14 people that said they want them and 4 maybes.

Dale is fronting the cost to produce the new stingers and can't be
making a lot of extras. This is a huge expense for a builder to do for
everyone. Lets try and get him the money A.S.A.P. If you don't order
now you may have to wait for a few months until another 10 people want
them. Sooooo confirm your order now. I have.

Thanks Dale for all the work you have put into this project! ! ! ! !
!!
We all appreciate it.

I hope I haven't offended any one with this notice but, it's the only
way I have to reach everyone in a timely fashion.

Steve H
Moose 213






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Dale,
Another question, can we use the existing swivel? It would help me to see a
drawing of the stinger with dimensions and holes.
Thanks,
Al
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Waltman" <tedwaltman@i1ci.com>
To: "'Murphy List'" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 8:01 AM
Subject: FW: Moose: NEW STINGERS! ! ! !

Dale,

Questions on the new stinger:

- Could you please elaborate a bit for me on the strength, durability,
lifetime fatigue issues for the new stinger out of 6150 vs 4130 like I
have?

- What angle will the stinger be bent at?

- Will you have one or two holes in the forward end? In other words,
one hole for compatibility with the Murphy designed FUS-360 or two holes
for your design of FUS-360?

- Will you pre-drill the two holes at the rear end--the swivel attach
holes--for 1/4" or 3/8" bolts?

Thank you,

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Steve Halvorsen
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 8:49 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Fwd: Moose: NEW STINGERS! ! ! !




Steve Halvorsen <shalvorsen@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Date: Fri, 23 Dec
2005 07:43:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Halvorsen <shalvorsen@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Moose: NEW STINGERS! ! ! !
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com

Well guys the time has come.
Dale will be doing a production run of the new stingers next week.

Please confirm your order to Dale before 12-31-05.

Contact Dale at: dfultz17086@earthlink.net A.S.A.P.! !! ! ! ! !! !!
!

The cost will not exceed $300.00 US plus the cost of shipping.

The stingers will be made from 6150 spring steel.

There will NOT be another production run for several months ! ! ! ! !
!

We have 14 people that said they want them and 4 maybes.

Dale is fronting the cost to produce the new stingers and can't be
making a lot of extras. This is a huge expense for a builder to do for
everyone. Lets try and get him the money A.S.A.P. If you don't order
now you may have to wait for a few months until another 10 people want
them. Sooooo confirm your order now. I have.

Thanks Dale for all the work you have put into this project! ! ! ! !
!!
We all appreciate it.

I hope I haven't offended any one with this notice but, it's the only
way I have to reach everyone in a timely fashion.

Steve H
Moose 213






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Ted, all,

At the moment I have a stock SR2500 tail. I have kept up a bit on this saga and Ted's experience. I am firmly confinced that what I currently have is not adequate. I have reviewed the Murphy Tech Bulletin. Looks to me like they have done the following:

1) added flex in the tail spring/stinger (Part LG 0066)
2) changed the pivot to accomodate the new stinger diameter of 1 1/16" (Part FUS 0437)
3) Beefed up the stinger attach point (FUS 0360)
4) Added some 1"x1" angle to provide more strength. (FUS 1051 F, M, R)

I don't see much else, did I miss anything? I am concerned that this may not be sufficient. My largest concern is the two points of attachment, the FUS 0437 and FUS 0360 have not shock absorbing elements. All of the shock would need to be absorbed by the new Stinger.

Dale, I greatly appreciate your stepping in here and grabbing the bull by the horns. If we get stingers thru you do we order the other parts thru MAM. Sorry if I am a little behind here! Am I correct that your stinger will be 1 1/16 diameter and the current pivot will not work?

Ted, given that you have had these for a while, what have you seen? Are there additional "enancements" beyond what is in the Tech Bulletin?



Thanks,

Rick Muller
SR70
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Ted Waltman" <tedwaltman@i1ci.com>

Dale,

Questions on the new stinger:

- Could you please elaborate a bit for me on the strength, durability,
lifetime fatigue issues for the new stinger out of 6150 vs 4130 like I
have?

- What angle will the stinger be bent at?

- Will you have one or two holes in the forward end? In other words,
one hole for compatibility with the Murphy designed FUS-360 or two holes
for your design of FUS-360?

- Will you pre-drill the two holes at the rear end--the swivel attach
holes--for 1/4" or 3/8" bolts?

Thank you,

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Steve Halvorsen
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 8:49 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Fwd: Moose: NEW STINGERS! ! ! !




Steve Halvorsen wrote: Date: Fri, 23 Dec
2005 07:43:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Halvorsen
Subject: Moose: NEW STINGERS! ! ! !
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com

Well guys the time has come.
Dale will be doing a production run of the new stingers next week.

Please confirm your order to Dale before 12-31-05.

Contact Dale at: dfultz17086@earthlink.net A.S.A.P.! !! ! ! ! !! !!
!

The cost will not exceed $300.00 US plus the cost of shipping.

The stingers will be made from 6150 spring steel.

There will NOT be another production run for several months ! ! ! ! !
!

We have 14 people that said they want them and 4 maybes.

Dale is fronting the cost to produce the new stingers and can't be
making a lot of extras. This is a huge expense for a builder to do for
everyone. Lets try and get him the money A.S.A.P. If you don't order
now you may have to wait for a few months until another 10 people want
them. Sooooo confirm your order now. I have.

Thanks Dale for all the work you have put into this project! ! ! ! !
!!
We all appreciate it.

I hope I haven't offended any one with this notice but, it's the only
way I have to reach everyone in a timely fashion.

Steve H
Moose 213






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Rick,

Additional changes not noted in your below email:

* FUS-358 is now thicker at 0.040"

* FUS-360 is thicker at 0.25"

* New side-to-side horizontal reinforcement "plate" in the form of
FUS-344 (seen here:
http://www.i1ci.com/flying/Moose/Tail/I ... SnbrsW.jpg)

* Additionally, the new FUS-360 is longer, adding two new bolts at the
bottom to better attach FUS-360 to FUS-358 and FUS-1051.

I have 28 total landings now on the new system including 22 on rough
grass/dirt. My tail remains totally solid with no play whatsoever in
the system.

Hope this answers your questions,

Ted Waltman

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
rickhm@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:57 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com; dfultz17086@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: FW: Moose: NEW STINGERS! ! ! !


Ted, all,

At the moment I have a stock SR2500 tail. I have kept up a bit on this
saga and Ted's experience. I am firmly confinced that what I currently
have is not adequate. I have reviewed the Murphy Tech Bulletin. Looks
to me like they have done the following:

1) added flex in the tail spring/stinger (Part LG 0066)
2) changed the pivot to accomodate the new stinger diameter of 1 1/16"
(Part FUS 0437)
3) Beefed up the stinger attach point (FUS 0360)
4) Added some 1"x1" angle to provide more strength. (FUS 1051 F, M, R)

I don't see much else, did I miss anything? I am concerned that this
may not be sufficient. My largest concern is the two points of
attachment, the FUS 0437 and FUS 0360 have not shock absorbing elements.
All of the shock would need to be absorbed by the new Stinger.

Dale, I greatly appreciate your stepping in here and grabbing the bull
by the horns. If we get stingers thru you do we order the other parts
thru MAM. Sorry if I am a little behind here! Am I correct that your
stinger will be 1 1/16 diameter and the current pivot will not work?

Ted, given that you have had these for a while, what have you seen? Are
there additional "enancements" beyond what is in the Tech Bulletin?



Thanks,

Rick Muller
SR70
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Ted Waltman" <tedwaltman@i1ci.com>

Dale,

Questions on the new stinger:

- Could you please elaborate a bit for me on the strength, durability,
lifetime fatigue issues for the new stinger out of 6150 vs 4130 like I

have?

- What angle will the stinger be bent at?

- Will you have one or two holes in the forward end? In other words,
one hole for compatibility with the Murphy designed FUS-360 or two

holes

for your design of FUS-360?

- Will you pre-drill the two holes at the rear end--the swivel attach
holes--for 1/4" or 3/8" bolts?

Thank you,

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Steve Halvorsen
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 8:49 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Fwd: Moose: NEW STINGERS! ! ! !




Steve Halvorsen wrote: Date: Fri, 23 Dec
2005 07:43:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Halvorsen
Subject: Moose: NEW STINGERS! ! ! !
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com

Well guys the time has come.
Dale will be doing a production run of the new stingers next week.

Please confirm your order to Dale before 12-31-05.

Contact Dale at: dfultz17086@earthlink.net A.S.A.P.! !! ! ! ! !! !!
!

The cost will not exceed $300.00 US plus the cost of shipping.

The stingers will be made from 6150 spring steel.

There will NOT be another production run for several months ! ! ! ! !
!

We have 14 people that said they want them and 4 maybes.

Dale is fronting the cost to produce the new stingers and can't be
making a lot of extras. This is a huge expense for a builder to do for

everyone. Lets try and get him the money A.S.A.P. If you don't order
now you may have to wait for a few months until another 10 people want

them. Sooooo confirm your order now. I have.

Thanks Dale for all the work you have put into this project! ! ! ! !
!!
We all appreciate it.

I hope I haven't offended any one with this notice but, it's the only
way I have to reach everyone in a timely fashion.

Steve H
Moose 213






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