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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:33 pm**

That's why u don't have to fuse the wire to it!

Steve W.

From: pequeajim@dcsol.com
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: Main Solenoid
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:16:16 -0900

You are right. I don't know what the heck I was thinking. That is the way
the previous owner described it to me and I just took it for face value.
There is a small terminal on the solenoid that completes the circuit and
activates it.

I saw the stinkin thing, but it just did nto click until after I was at
work
today.

Thanks for the response.
Jim!

On 12/15/2005 8:50 AM, admin@airnig.co.uk wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Hi Jim
->
-> I think it should be OK volts wise, but one thing that surprised me was
that
-> the small connection goes to ground to activate the solenoid, not have
12v
-> applied to it !
->
-> Nigel
-> 745E
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
-> pequeajim@dcsol.com
-> Sent: 15 December 2005 12:23
-> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> Subject: REB: Main Solenoid
->
->
-> I decided to hook up power to my Rebel last night. I have a small
portable
-> starter battery that I use for my RC stuff and starting cars in the
winter
-> if
-> their battery is dead.
->
-> After connecting everything up, I flipped the master switch and nothing?
->
-> Does this solenoid need a certain amperage battery to toggle when turing
the
-> master switch?
->
->
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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:33 pm**

Hi Jim

I think it should be OK volts wise, but one thing that surprised me was that
the small connection goes to ground to activate the solenoid, not have 12v
applied to it !

Nigel
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
pequeajim@dcsol.com
Sent: 15 December 2005 12:23
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: REB: Main Solenoid

I decided to hook up power to my Rebel last night. I have a small portable
starter battery that I use for my RC stuff and starting cars in the winter
if
their battery is dead.

After connecting everything up, I flipped the master switch and nothing?

Does this solenoid need a certain amperage battery to toggle when turing the
master switch?

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:33 pm**

You are right. I don't know what the heck I was thinking. That is the way
the previous owner described it to me and I just took it for face value.
There is a small terminal on the solenoid that completes the circuit and
activates it.

I saw the stinkin thing, but it just did nto click until after I was at work
today.

Thanks for the response.
Jim!

On 12/15/2005 8:50 AM, admin@airnig.co.uk wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Hi Jim
->
-> I think it should be OK volts wise, but one thing that surprised me was
that
-> the small connection goes to ground to activate the solenoid, not have 12v
-> applied to it !
->
-> Nigel
-> 745E
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
-> pequeajim@dcsol.com
-> Sent: 15 December 2005 12:23
-> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> Subject: REB: Main Solenoid
->
->
-> I decided to hook up power to my Rebel last night. I have a small portable
-> starter battery that I use for my RC stuff and starting cars in the winter
-> if
-> their battery is dead.
->
-> After connecting everything up, I flipped the master switch and nothing?
->
-> Does this solenoid need a certain amperage battery to toggle when turing
the
-> master switch?
->
->
->
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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:33 pm**

Uses ground so no live wires enter the circuit to the master switch and
back...to make it work. A proper Master solenoid picks up the + internally
from the battery terminal on one side of the case. Make sure you are
connecting to the right one. If unsure...put a meter on the small terminal
and then each big stud. The one that gives you a circuit is the large stud
that the battery gets connected to and the other large stud heads for your
starter solenoid and buss bar for the Circuit Breakers.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <pequeajim@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:16 PM
Subject: RE: Main Solenoid

You are right. I don't know what the heck I was thinking. That is the

way

the previous owner described it to me and I just took it for face value.
There is a small terminal on the solenoid that completes the circuit and
activates it.

I saw the stinkin thing, but it just did nto click until after I was at

work

today.

Thanks for the response.
Jim!

On 12/15/2005 8:50 AM, admin@airnig.co.uk wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Hi Jim
->
-> I think it should be OK volts wise, but one thing that surprised me was
that
-> the small connection goes to ground to activate the solenoid, not have

12v

-> applied to it !
->
-> Nigel
-> 745E
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
-> pequeajim@dcsol.com
-> Sent: 15 December 2005 12:23
-> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> Subject: REB: Main Solenoid
->
->
-> I decided to hook up power to my Rebel last night. I have a small

portable

-> starter battery that I use for my RC stuff and starting cars in the

winter

-> if
-> their battery is dead.
->
-> After connecting everything up, I flipped the master switch and

nothing?

->
-> Does this solenoid need a certain amperage battery to toggle when

turing

the
-> master switch?
->
->
->
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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:33 pm**

Got it thanks. Fired up all the electronics tonight!

Now I need to find a good airspeed indicator, VOR, and then artificial
horizon...

On 12/15/2005 12:38 PM, oifa@irishfield.on.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Uses ground so no live wires enter the circuit to the master switch and
-> back...to make it work. A proper Master solenoid picks up the + internally
-> from the battery terminal on one side of the case. Make sure you are
-> connecting to the right one. If unsure...put a meter on the small terminal
-> and then each big stud. The one that gives you a circuit is the large stud
-> that the battery gets connected to and the other large stud heads for your
-> starter solenoid and buss bar for the Circuit Breakers.
->
-> Wayne
->
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: <pequeajim@dcsol.com>
-> To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:16 PM
-> Subject: RE: Main Solenoid
->
->
-> > You are right. I don't know what the heck I was thinking. That is the
-> way
-> > the previous owner described it to me and I just took it for face value.
-> > There is a small terminal on the solenoid that completes the circuit and
-> > activates it.
-> >
-> > I saw the stinkin thing, but it just did nto click until after I was at
-> work
-> > today.
-> >
-> > Thanks for the response.
-> > Jim!
-> >
-> >
-> > On 12/15/2005 8:50 AM, admin@airnig.co.uk wrote to rebel-builders:
-> >
-> > -> Hi Jim
-> > ->
-> > -> I think it should be OK volts wise, but one thing that surprised me was
-> > that
-> > -> the small connection goes to ground to activate the solenoid, not have
-> 12v
-> > -> applied to it !
-> > ->
-> > -> Nigel
-> > -> 745E
-> > ->
-> > -> -----Original Message-----
-> > -> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
-> > -> pequeajim@dcsol.com
-> > -> Sent: 15 December 2005 12:23
-> > -> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> > -> Subject: REB: Main Solenoid
-> > ->
-> > ->
-> > -> I decided to hook up power to my Rebel last night. I have a small
-> portable
-> > -> starter battery that I use for my RC stuff and starting cars in the
-> winter
-> > -> if
-> > -> their battery is dead.
-> > ->
-> > -> After connecting everything up, I flipped the master switch and
-> nothing?
-> > ->
-> > -> Does this solenoid need a certain amperage battery to toggle when
-> turing
-> > the
-> > -> master switch?
-> > ->
-> > ->
-> > ->
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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:33 pm**

Buy the cheapest A/S you can find. It won't be accurate anyhow due to the
inability to find a good static point on the Rebel. All that matters if
reference to stall...number showing is incidental.

As for VOR...do you use it for anything these days?..other than listening to
Country and Western?

A/H - the offshore $359US versions from Aircraft Spruce seem to last just as
well as the RC Allens

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <pequeajim@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: Main Solenoid

Got it thanks. Fired up all the electronics tonight!

Now I need to find a good airspeed indicator, VOR, and then artificial
horizon...

On 12/15/2005 12:38 PM, oifa@irishfield.on.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Uses ground so no live wires enter the circuit to the master switch and
-> back...to make it work. A proper Master solenoid picks up the +

internally

-> from the battery terminal on one side of the case. Make sure you are
-> connecting to the right one. If unsure...put a meter on the small

terminal

-> and then each big stud. The one that gives you a circuit is the large

stud

-> that the battery gets connected to and the other large stud heads for

your

-> starter solenoid and buss bar for the Circuit Breakers.
->
-> Wayne
->
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: <pequeajim@dcsol.com>
-> To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:16 PM
-> Subject: RE: Main Solenoid
->
->
-> > You are right. I don't know what the heck I was thinking. That is

the

-> way
-> > the previous owner described it to me and I just took it for face

value.

-> > There is a small terminal on the solenoid that completes the circuit

and

-> > activates it.
-> >
-> > I saw the stinkin thing, but it just did nto click until after I was

at

-> work
-> > today.
-> >
-> > Thanks for the response.
-> > Jim!
-> >
-> >
-> > On 12/15/2005 8:50 AM, admin@airnig.co.uk wrote to rebel-builders:
-> >
-> > -> Hi Jim
-> > ->
-> > -> I think it should be OK volts wise, but one thing that surprised

me was

-> > that
-> > -> the small connection goes to ground to activate the solenoid, not

have

-> 12v
-> > -> applied to it !
-> > ->
-> > -> Nigel
-> > -> 745E
-> > ->
-> > -> -----Original Message-----
-> > -> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf

Of

-> > -> pequeajim@dcsol.com
-> > -> Sent: 15 December 2005 12:23
-> > -> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> > -> Subject: REB: Main Solenoid
-> > ->
-> > ->
-> > -> I decided to hook up power to my Rebel last night. I have a small
-> portable
-> > -> starter battery that I use for my RC stuff and starting cars in

the

-> winter
-> > -> if
-> > -> their battery is dead.
-> > ->
-> > -> After connecting everything up, I flipped the master switch and
-> nothing?
-> > ->
-> > -> Does this solenoid need a certain amperage battery to toggle when
-> turing
-> > the
-> > -> master switch?
-> > ->
-> > ->
-> > ->
-> > -> -----------------------------------------------------------------
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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:33 pm**

You must mean ADF, not VOR, eh Wayne?

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 4:26 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Main Solenoid

Buy the cheapest A/S you can find. It won't be accurate anyhow due to the
inability to find a good static point on the Rebel. All that matters if
reference to stall...number showing is incidental.

As for VOR...do you use it for anything these days?..other than listening to
Country and Western?

A/H - the offshore $359US versions from Aircraft Spruce seem to last just as
well as the RC Allens

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <pequeajim@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: Main Solenoid

Got it thanks. Fired up all the electronics tonight!

Now I need to find a good airspeed indicator, VOR, and then artificial
horizon...

On 12/15/2005 12:38 PM, oifa@irishfield.on.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Uses ground so no live wires enter the circuit to the master switch and
-> back...to make it work. A proper Master solenoid picks up the +

internally

-> from the battery terminal on one side of the case. Make sure you are
-> connecting to the right one. If unsure...put a meter on the small

terminal

-> and then each big stud. The one that gives you a circuit is the large

stud

-> that the battery gets connected to and the other large stud heads for

your

-> starter solenoid and buss bar for the Circuit Breakers.
->
-> Wayne
->
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: <pequeajim@dcsol.com>
-> To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:16 PM
-> Subject: RE: Main Solenoid
->
->
-> > You are right. I don't know what the heck I was thinking. That is

the

-> way
-> > the previous owner described it to me and I just took it for face

value.

-> > There is a small terminal on the solenoid that completes the circuit

and

-> > activates it.
-> >
-> > I saw the stinkin thing, but it just did nto click until after I was

at

-> work
-> > today.
-> >
-> > Thanks for the response.
-> > Jim!
-> >
-> >
-> > On 12/15/2005 8:50 AM, admin@airnig.co.uk wrote to rebel-builders:
-> >
-> > -> Hi Jim
-> > ->
-> > -> I think it should be OK volts wise, but one thing that surprised

me was

-> > that
-> > -> the small connection goes to ground to activate the solenoid, not

have

-> 12v
-> > -> applied to it !
-> > ->
-> > -> Nigel
-> > -> 745E
-> > ->
-> > -> -----Original Message-----
-> > -> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf

Of

-> > -> pequeajim@dcsol.com
-> > -> Sent: 15 December 2005 12:23
-> > -> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> > -> Subject: REB: Main Solenoid
-> > ->
-> > ->
-> > -> I decided to hook up power to my Rebel last night. I have a small
-> portable
-> > -> starter battery that I use for my RC stuff and starting cars in

the

-> winter
-> > -> if
-> > -> their battery is dead.
-> > ->
-> > -> After connecting everything up, I flipped the master switch and
-> nothing?
-> > ->
-> > -> Does this solenoid need a certain amperage battery to toggle when
-> turing
-> > the
-> > -> master switch?
-> > ->
-> > ->
-> > ->
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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:33 pm**

If I was doing my panel now i'd want something like this.

http://www.dynonavionics.com/

instead of a bunch of steam gauges

At 04:20 PM 12/15/2005 -0900, you wrote:

Got it thanks. Fired up all the electronics tonight!

Now I need to find a good airspeed indicator, VOR, and then artificial
horizon...

Drew

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:33 pm**

Yah I do...same obsolete technology! LOL

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Kimball" <mkimball@gci.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:21 PM
Subject: RE: Main Solenoid

You must mean ADF, not VOR, eh Wayne?

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of

Wayne

G. O'Shea
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 4:26 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Main Solenoid

Buy the cheapest A/S you can find. It won't be accurate anyhow due to the
inability to find a good static point on the Rebel. All that matters if
reference to stall...number showing is incidental.

As for VOR...do you use it for anything these days?..other than listening

to

Country and Western?

A/H - the offshore $359US versions from Aircraft Spruce seem to last just

as

well as the RC Allens

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <pequeajim@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: Main Solenoid

Got it thanks. Fired up all the electronics tonight!

Now I need to find a good airspeed indicator, VOR, and then artificial
horizon...

On 12/15/2005 12:38 PM, oifa@irishfield.on.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Uses ground so no live wires enter the circuit to the master switch

and

-> back...to make it work. A proper Master solenoid picks up the +
internally
-> from the battery terminal on one side of the case. Make sure you are
-> connecting to the right one. If unsure...put a meter on the small
terminal
-> and then each big stud. The one that gives you a circuit is the large
stud
-> that the battery gets connected to and the other large stud heads for
your
-> starter solenoid and buss bar for the Circuit Breakers.
->
-> Wayne
->
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: <pequeajim@dcsol.com>
-> To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:16 PM
-> Subject: RE: Main Solenoid
->
->
-> > You are right. I don't know what the heck I was thinking. That is
the
-> way
-> > the previous owner described it to me and I just took it for face
value.
-> > There is a small terminal on the solenoid that completes the

circuit

and
-> > activates it.
-> >
-> > I saw the stinkin thing, but it just did nto click until after I

was

at
-> work
-> > today.
-> >
-> > Thanks for the response.
-> > Jim!
-> >
-> >
-> > On 12/15/2005 8:50 AM, admin@airnig.co.uk wrote to rebel-builders:
-> >
-> > -> Hi Jim
-> > ->
-> > -> I think it should be OK volts wise, but one thing that surprised
me was
-> > that
-> > -> the small connection goes to ground to activate the solenoid,

not

have
-> 12v
-> > -> applied to it !
-> > ->
-> > -> Nigel
-> > -> 745E
-> > ->
-> > -> -----Original Message-----
-> > -> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On

Behalf

Of
-> > -> pequeajim@dcsol.com
-> > -> Sent: 15 December 2005 12:23
-> > -> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> > -> Subject: REB: Main Solenoid
-> > ->
-> > ->
-> > -> I decided to hook up power to my Rebel last night. I have a

small

-> portable
-> > -> starter battery that I use for my RC stuff and starting cars in
the
-> winter
-> > -> if
-> > -> their battery is dead.
-> > ->
-> > -> After connecting everything up, I flipped the master switch and
-> nothing?
-> > ->
-> > -> Does this solenoid need a certain amperage battery to toggle

when

-> turing
-> > the
-> > -> master switch?
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