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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:02 pm**

Bob Patterson:

Further to our telephone conversation, you were suggesting a product called Everbrite as a possibility for use on floats. It sounds really interesting. Who was the person who had tried it, and what size of a project has he used it on? It seems that eurethane may not be the best choice for floats if the airplane is going to be in the water for any length of time, as it tends to form bubbles. Even if this Everbrite proves a bad choice, there doesn't seem to be too much to loose, as long as it doesn't actually cause corrosion, as it can be removed with acetone.

Anybody else got any experience with this stuff?

Al Hepburn

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:02 pm**

On 10/23/2005 11:18 AM, rebel-builders@dcsol.com wrote to MIKE DAVIS:

-> Bob Patterson:
->
-> Further to our telephone conversation, you were suggesting a product called
Everbrite as a possibility for use on floats. It sounds really interesting.
Who was the person who had tried it, and what size of a project has he used it
on? It seems that eurethane may not be the best choice for floats if the
airplane is going to be in the water for any length of time, as it tends to
form bubbles. Even if this Everbrite proves a bad choice, there doesn't seem
to be too much to loose, as long as it doesn't actually cause corrosion, as it
can be removed with acetone.
->
-> Anybody else got any experience with this stuff?
->
-> Al Hepburn

Used it to polish brass when I was in the Marines... worked good for that.

Mike

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:02 pm**

Hi Al !

You're right - I'd forgotten that Urethane paint is actually
porous - that's why it needs a really good primer coat under it !
I don't think paint will stick well to everbrite, though...

Mike Jones has used Everbrite on the whole inside of his Rebel -
he will be bringing a demo sample to the next Builders Meeting on
November 13th at Brampton. Everbrite is liquid Nylon, and the solvent
is naptha - so if you want to remove it later, just wipe with
naptha on a rag ! If it is scratched, just wipe over with
more Everbrite on a clean rag - it dissolves in smoothly !
Seems like the ideal stuff for shiny aluminum floats.

"Jones, Michael" <Michael.Jones@snclavalin.com>

It makes a very thin coating that seems to weigh very little,
yet protects for years outside. Good for copper, brass, and
aluminum ... ;-)

.....bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Sunday 23 October 2005 03:18 pm, Alan Hepburn wrote:

Bob Patterson:

Further to our telephone conversation, you were suggesting a product

called Everbrite as a possibility for use on floats. It sounds really
interesting. Who was the person who had tried it, and what size of a
project has he used it on? It seems that eurethane may not be the best
choice for floats if the airplane is going to be in the water for any
length of time, as it tends to form bubbles. Even if this Everbrite proves
a bad choice, there doesn't seem to be too much to loose, as long as it
doesn't actually cause corrosion, as it can be removed with acetone.

Anybody else got any experience with this stuff?

Al Hepburn

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:02 pm**

Al

You might want to check this stuff out:

http://www.pantheonchemical.com/PreKote.htm

I probably heard of it here but the test reports by the military/labs make it sound like a no-brainer for an adhesion promoting & corrosion preventing treatment. The military test report they quote make it sound better than alodine not to mention it has no hazmat issues.

Dave

Alan Hepburn wrote:

Bob Patterson:

Further to our telephone conversation, you were suggesting a product called Everbrite as a possibility for use on floats. It sounds really interesting. Who was the person who had tried it, and what size of a project has he used it on? It seems that eurethane may not be the best choice for floats if the airplane is going to be in the water for any length of time, as it tends to form bubbles. Even if this Everbrite proves a bad choice, there doesn't seem to be too much to loose, as long as it doesn't actually cause corrosion, as it can be removed with acetone.

Anybody else got any experience with this stuff?

Al Hepburn

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:02 pm**

hi all

i used everbrite on inside of y rebel everywhere, because my kit was old
#007, and partially started it had sat long time in welding shop with little
heat and lots of dust, there was some surface corrosion on it, it cleaned it
up and coated it and now no sign of any corrosion, it great stuff, ir wings
just before closing top skin, took 15 minutes maybe, love the stuff, highly
recommend it for everyone, should wok on floats too

mike#007

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Al

You might want to check this stuff out:

http://www.pantheonchemical.com/PreKote.htm

I probably heard of it here but the test reports by the military/labs make
it sound like a no-brainer for an adhesion promoting & corrosion preventing
treatment. The military test report they quote make it sound better than
alodine not to mention it has no hazmat issues.

Dave

Alan Hepburn wrote:

Bob Patterson:

Further to our telephone conversation, you were suggesting a product

called Everbrite as a possibility for use on floats. It sounds really
interesting. Who was the person who had tried it, and what size of a
project has he used it on? It seems that eurethane may not be the best
choice for floats if the airplane is going to be in the water for any length
of time, as it tends to form bubbles. Even if this Everbrite proves a bad
choice, there doesn't seem to be too much to loose, as long as it doesn't
actually cause corrosion, as it can be removed with acetone.

Anybody else got any experience with this stuff?

Al Hepburn

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:06 pm**

Hi Al,

Interesting product.

Would you know if the product has the same (or better) adhesive and shear
performance as the chrommate based primers when applied between alum sheets?

Anyone out there use it yet?

Thanx
Brian
779R

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Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Everbrite

Al

You might want to check this stuff out:

http://www.pantheonchemical.com/PreKote.htm

I probably heard of it here but the test reports by the military/labs make

it sound like a no-brainer for an adhesion promoting & corrosion preventing
treatment. The military test report they quote make it sound better than
alodine not to mention it has no hazmat issues.

Dave

Alan Hepburn wrote:

Bob Patterson:

Further to our telephone conversation, you were suggesting a product

called Everbrite as a possibility for use on floats. It sounds really
interesting. Who was the person who had tried it, and what size of a
project has he used it on? It seems that eurethane may not be the best
choice for floats if the airplane is going to be in the water for any length
of time, as it tends to form bubbles. Even if this Everbrite proves a bad
choice, there doesn't seem to be too much to loose, as long as it doesn't
actually cause corrosion, as it can be removed with acetone.

Anybody else got any experience with this stuff?

Al Hepburn

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:06 pm**

Scott Aldrich used it and loved it!! His paint also came out sweet - Still
waiting for him to share the pictures -

Britt

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Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:15 AM
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Subject: Re: Everbrite

Hi Al,

Interesting product.

Would you know if the product has the same (or better) adhesive and shear
performance as the chrommate based primers when applied between alum sheets?

Anyone out there use it yet?

Thanx
Brian
779R

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Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Everbrite

Al

You might want to check this stuff out:

http://www.pantheonchemical.com/PreKote.htm

I probably heard of it here but the test reports by the military/labs make

it sound like a no-brainer for an adhesion promoting & corrosion preventing
treatment. The military test report they quote make it sound better than
alodine not to mention it has no hazmat issues.

Dave

Alan Hepburn wrote:

Bob Patterson:

Further to our telephone conversation, you were suggesting a product

called Everbrite as a possibility for use on floats. It sounds really
interesting. Who was the person who had tried it, and what size of a
project has he used it on? It seems that eurethane may not be the best
choice for floats if the airplane is going to be in the water for any length
of time, as it tends to form bubbles. Even if this Everbrite proves a bad
choice, there doesn't seem to be too much to loose, as long as it doesn't
actually cause corrosion, as it can be removed with acetone.

Anybody else got any experience with this stuff?

Al Hepburn

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:06 pm**

hi brain

i have used this stuff all over the place
its is totally different than the chromate we use, it has no strength to
hold sheets together, when i use it i assemble with wet chromate between
sheets then later on apply everbrite to all surfaces with a rag, it works
great is fast and lasts a long time, it stays flexible and never cracks or
peels off, i highly recommend it

mike #007

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Brian Breathnach
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:15 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Everbrite

Hi Al,

Interesting product.

Would you know if the product has the same (or better) adhesive and shear
performance as the chrommate based primers when applied between alum sheets?

Anyone out there use it yet?

Thanx
Brian
779R

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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Everbrite

Al

You might want to check this stuff out:

http://www.pantheonchemical.com/PreKote.htm

I probably heard of it here but the test reports by the military/labs make

it sound like a no-brainer for an adhesion promoting & corrosion preventing
treatment. The military test report they quote make it sound better than
alodine not to mention it has no hazmat issues.

Dave

Alan Hepburn wrote:

Bob Patterson:

Further to our telephone conversation, you were suggesting a product

called Everbrite as a possibility for use on floats. It sounds really
interesting. Who was the person who had tried it, and what size of a
project has he used it on? It seems that eurethane may not be the best
choice for floats if the airplane is going to be in the water for any length
of time, as it tends to form bubbles. Even if this Everbrite proves a bad
choice, there doesn't seem to be too much to loose, as long as it doesn't
actually cause corrosion, as it can be removed with acetone.

Anybody else got any experience with this stuff?

Al Hepburn

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:06 pm**

britt

did he use everbrite as a primer ??

mike#007

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Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:23 PM
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Subject: RE: Everbrite

Scott Aldrich used it and loved it!! His paint also came out sweet - Still
waiting for him to share the pictures -

Britt

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Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:15 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Everbrite

Hi Al,

Interesting product.

Would you know if the product has the same (or better) adhesive and shear
performance as the chrommate based primers when applied between alum sheets?

Anyone out there use it yet?

Thanx
Brian
779R

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ricker" <daricker@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Everbrite

Al

You might want to check this stuff out:

http://www.pantheonchemical.com/PreKote.htm

I probably heard of it here but the test reports by the military/labs make

it sound like a no-brainer for an adhesion promoting & corrosion preventing
treatment. The military test report they quote make it sound better than
alodine not to mention it has no hazmat issues.

Dave

Alan Hepburn wrote:

Bob Patterson:

Further to our telephone conversation, you were suggesting a product

called Everbrite as a possibility for use on floats. It sounds really
interesting. Who was the person who had tried it, and what size of a
project has he used it on? It seems that eurethane may not be the best
choice for floats if the airplane is going to be in the water for any length
of time, as it tends to form bubbles. Even if this Everbrite proves a bad
choice, there doesn't seem to be too much to loose, as long as it doesn't
actually cause corrosion, as it can be removed with acetone.

Anybody else got any experience with this stuff?

Al Hepburn

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:06 pm**

Hi Brian !

I think this product is meant as a paint primer, for large
surfaces. The beauty of Everbrite is that it's CLEAR - perfect
if you want a shiny aluminum float, or airplane.

Nothing beats the Polyfiber Epoxy Primer for bonding
pieces together !

.......bobp

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On Tuesday 25 October 2005 12:14 pm, Brian Breathnach wrote:

Hi Al,

Interesting product.

Would you know if the product has the same (or better) adhesive and shear
performance as the chrommate based primers when applied between alum

sheets?

Anyone out there use it yet?

Thanx
Brian
779R

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ricker" <daricker@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Everbrite

Al

You might want to check this stuff out:

http://www.pantheonchemical.com/PreKote.htm

I probably heard of it here but the test reports by the military/labs

make

it sound like a no-brainer for an adhesion promoting & corrosion

preventing

treatment. The military test report they quote make it sound better than
alodine not to mention it has no hazmat issues.
Dave

Alan Hepburn wrote:

Bob Patterson:

Further to our telephone conversation, you were suggesting a product
called Everbrite as a possibility for use on floats. It sounds really
interesting. Who was the person who had tried it, and what size of a
project has he used it on? It seems that eurethane may not be the best
choice for floats if the airplane is going to be in the water for any

length

of time, as it tends to form bubbles. Even if this Everbrite proves a bad
choice, there doesn't seem to be too much to loose, as long as it doesn't
actually cause corrosion, as it can be removed with acetone.
Anybody else got any experience with this stuff?

Al Hepburn

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:06 pm**

Can you just wipe it on without any prep work?
Jesse

From: "Jones, Michael" <Michael.Jones@snclavalin.com>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: "'rebel-builders@dcsol.com'" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: RE: Everbrite
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:45:35 -0400

hi brain

i have used this stuff all over the place
its is totally different than the chromate we use, it has no strength to
hold sheets together, when i use it i assemble with wet chromate between
sheets then later on apply everbrite to all surfaces with a rag, it works
great is fast and lasts a long time, it stays flexible and never cracks or
peels off, i highly recommend it

mike #007

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Brian Breathnach
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:15 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Everbrite

Hi Al,

Interesting product.

Would you know if the product has the same (or better) adhesive and shear
performance as the chrommate based primers when applied between alum
sheets?

Anyone out there use it yet?

Thanx
Brian
779R

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ricker" <daricker@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Everbrite

Al

You might want to check this stuff out:

http://www.pantheonchemical.com/PreKote.htm

I probably heard of it here but the test reports by the military/labs
make
it sound like a no-brainer for an adhesion promoting & corrosion preventing
treatment. The military test report they quote make it sound better than
alodine not to mention it has no hazmat issues.
Dave

Alan Hepburn wrote:

Bob Patterson:

Further to our telephone conversation, you were suggesting a product
called Everbrite as a possibility for use on floats. It sounds really
interesting. Who was the person who had tried it, and what size of a
project has he used it on? It seems that eurethane may not be the best
choice for floats if the airplane is going to be in the water for any
length
of time, as it tends to form bubbles. Even if this Everbrite proves a bad
choice, there doesn't seem to be too much to loose, as long as it doesn't
actually cause corrosion, as it can be removed with acetone.
Anybody else got any experience with this stuff?

Al Hepburn

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:06 pm**

jesse

you must clean and degrease surface before applying, acetone works or
another good cleaner such as the orange based cleaners, then just wipe on
and your done, its that simple

mike#007

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Jesse Jenks
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 1:01 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: Everbrite

Can you just wipe it on without any prep work?
Jesse

From: "Jones, Michael" <Michael.Jones@snclavalin.com>
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To: "'rebel-builders@dcsol.com'" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: RE: Everbrite
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:45:35 -0400

hi brain

i have used this stuff all over the place
its is totally different than the chromate we use, it has no strength to
hold sheets together, when i use it i assemble with wet chromate between
sheets then later on apply everbrite to all surfaces with a rag, it works
great is fast and lasts a long time, it stays flexible and never cracks or
peels off, i highly recommend it

mike #007

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Brian Breathnach
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:15 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Everbrite

Hi Al,

Interesting product.

Would you know if the product has the same (or better) adhesive and shear
performance as the chrommate based primers when applied between alum
sheets?

Anyone out there use it yet?

Thanx
Brian
779R

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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Everbrite

Al

You might want to check this stuff out:

http://www.pantheonchemical.com/PreKote.htm

I probably heard of it here but the test reports by the military/labs
make
it sound like a no-brainer for an adhesion promoting & corrosion preventing
treatment. The military test report they quote make it sound better than
alodine not to mention it has no hazmat issues.
Dave

Alan Hepburn wrote:

Bob Patterson:

Further to our telephone conversation, you were suggesting a product
called Everbrite as a possibility for use on floats. It sounds really
interesting. Who was the person who had tried it, and what size of a
project has he used it on? It seems that eurethane may not be the best
choice for floats if the airplane is going to be in the water for any
length
of time, as it tends to form bubbles. Even if this Everbrite proves a bad
choice, there doesn't seem to be too much to loose, as long as it doesn't
actually cause corrosion, as it can be removed with acetone.
Anybody else got any experience with this stuff?

Al Hepburn

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:06 pm**

Good Morning Bob
OK, got it--thanx
Brian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <beep@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: Everbrite

Hi Brian !

I think this product is meant as a paint primer, for large
surfaces. The beauty of Everbrite is that it's CLEAR - perfect
if you want a shiny aluminum float, or airplane.

Nothing beats the Polyfiber Epoxy Primer for bonding
pieces together !

.......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Tuesday 25 October 2005 12:14 pm, Brian Breathnach wrote:
Hi Al,

Interesting product.

Would you know if the product has the same (or better) adhesive and

shear

performance as the chrommate based primers when applied between alum
sheets?
Anyone out there use it yet?

Thanx
Brian
779R

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ricker" <daricker@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Everbrite

Al

You might want to check this stuff out:

http://www.pantheonchemical.com/PreKote.htm

I probably heard of it here but the test reports by the military/labs
make
it sound like a no-brainer for an adhesion promoting & corrosion
preventing
treatment. The military test report they quote make it sound better

than

alodine not to mention it has no hazmat issues.
Dave

Alan Hepburn wrote:

called Everbrite as a possibility for use on floats. It sounds really
interesting. Who was the person who had tried it, and what size of a
project has he used it on? It seems that eurethane may not be the best
choice for floats if the airplane is going to be in the water for any
length
of time, as it tends to form bubbles. Even if this Everbrite proves a

bad

choice, there doesn't seem to be too much to loose, as long as it

doesn't

actually cause corrosion, as it can be removed with acetone.

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:06 pm**

Mike,
Just clean with solvent, but no Scotchbrighting required? What do you do on
interior surfaces that will get epoxy primer in the joint, and Everbright
everywhere else? For example, when putting the top skin on the wing, would
you mask off all the rib/spar/stringer locations, apply the Everbright, let
it dry then peel the tape and apply epoxy primer to the joint areas just
before riveting?
Jesse

From: "Jones, Michael" <Michael.Jones@snclavalin.com>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: "'rebel-builders@dcsol.com'" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: RE: Everbrite
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:06:10 -0400

jesse

you must clean and degrease surface before applying, acetone works or
another good cleaner such as the orange based cleaners, then just wipe on
and your done, its that simple

mike#007

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Jesse Jenks
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 1:01 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: Everbrite

Can you just wipe it on without any prep work?
Jesse

From: "Jones, Michael" <Michael.Jones@snclavalin.com>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: "'rebel-builders@dcsol.com'" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: RE: Everbrite
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:45:35 -0400

hi brain

i have used this stuff all over the place
its is totally different than the chromate we use, it has no strength to
hold sheets together, when i use it i assemble with wet chromate between
sheets then later on apply everbrite to all surfaces with a rag, it works
great is fast and lasts a long time, it stays flexible and never cracks
or
peels off, i highly recommend it

mike #007

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Brian Breathnach
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:15 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Everbrite

Hi Al,

Interesting product.

Would you know if the product has the same (or better) adhesive and shear
performance as the chrommate based primers when applied between alum
sheets?

Anyone out there use it yet?

Thanx
Brian
779R

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ricker" <daricker@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Everbrite

Al

You might want to check this stuff out:

http://www.pantheonchemical.com/PreKote.htm

I probably heard of it here but the test reports by the military/labs
make
it sound like a no-brainer for an adhesion promoting & corrosion
preventing
treatment. The military test report they quote make it sound better than
alodine not to mention it has no hazmat issues.
Dave

Alan Hepburn wrote:

called Everbrite as a possibility for use on floats. It sounds really
interesting. Who was the person who had tried it, and what size of a
project has he used it on? It seems that eurethane may not be the best
choice for floats if the airplane is going to be in the water for any
length
of time, as it tends to form bubbles. Even if this Everbrite proves a
bad
choice, there doesn't seem to be too much to loose, as long as it doesn't
actually cause corrosion, as it can be removed with acetone.
--
David A. Ricker
Fall River, Nova Scotia
Canada

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:06 pm**

Jesse

for closing wing that's what you would could do, although main purpose of
cromate is to keep moisture out it does provide some strength, you could
apply everbrite over the skin them cromate on top of everbrite, would reduce
the strength but sure would never corrode

as for inside of fus and wings assemble and rivet everything then slop in
the everbrite with rag everywhere, does not matter if it runs a little, but
keep it clear of pro seal as naphtha would dissolve proseal i am guessing

easy eh ??

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Jesse Jenks
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 1:17 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: Everbrite

Mike,
Just clean with solvent, but no Scotchbrighting required? What do you do on
interior surfaces that will get epoxy primer in the joint, and Everbright
everywhere else? For example, when putting the top skin on the wing, would
you mask off all the rib/spar/stringer locations, apply the Everbright, let
it dry then peel the tape and apply epoxy primer to the joint areas just
before riveting?
Jesse

From: "Jones, Michael" <Michael.Jones@snclavalin.com>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: "'rebel-builders@dcsol.com'" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: RE: Everbrite
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:06:10 -0400

jesse

you must clean and degrease surface before applying, acetone works or
another good cleaner such as the orange based cleaners, then just wipe on
and your done, its that simple

mike#007

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Jesse Jenks
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 1:01 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: Everbrite

Can you just wipe it on without any prep work?
Jesse

From: "Jones, Michael" <Michael.Jones@snclavalin.com>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: "'rebel-builders@dcsol.com'" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: RE: Everbrite
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:45:35 -0400

hi brain

i have used this stuff all over the place
its is totally different than the chromate we use, it has no strength to
hold sheets together, when i use it i assemble with wet chromate between
sheets then later on apply everbrite to all surfaces with a rag, it works
great is fast and lasts a long time, it stays flexible and never cracks
or
peels off, i highly recommend it

mike #007

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Brian Breathnach
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:15 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Everbrite

Hi Al,

Interesting product.

Would you know if the product has the same (or better) adhesive and shear
performance as the chrommate based primers when applied between alum
sheets?

Anyone out there use it yet?

Thanx
Brian
779R

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ricker" <daricker@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Everbrite

Al

You might want to check this stuff out:

http://www.pantheonchemical.com/PreKote.htm

I probably heard of it here but the test reports by the military/labs
make
it sound like a no-brainer for an adhesion promoting & corrosion
preventing
treatment. The military test report they quote make it sound better than
alodine not to mention it has no hazmat issues.
Dave

Alan Hepburn wrote:

called Everbrite as a possibility for use on floats. It sounds really
interesting. Who was the person who had tried it, and what size of a
project has he used it on? It seems that eurethane may not be the best
choice for floats if the airplane is going to be in the water for any
length
of time, as it tends to form bubbles. Even if this Everbrite proves a
bad
choice, there doesn't seem to be too much to loose, as long as it doesn't
actually cause corrosion, as it can be removed with acetone.
--
David A. Ricker
Fall River, Nova Scotia
Canada

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