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Dave Fife

Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips

Post by Dave Fife » Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:38 pm

To all that have been inquiring about my life and most importantly 3D Composite Aircraft Parts and the production of wing tips.

Well if any of you have moved from one home to another, you know it takes a lot of time to get settled. I am now somewhat settled. The shop is a work in progress and will be for the next 3 to 4 months. I am starting to get back at production of the wing tips for the Rebel and the Moose/Elite.

I do not advertise on this page and am only writing to stop the rumors. I am back and will answer all e-mails or phone calls. Glad to here all of you are interested. I will fill all orders as they are received but please e-mail or call me in the evening.

By the way, just so you know, I now look East onto Saginaw Bay in Linwood, Michigan, USA. I have been wasting time watching the sun come up in the mornings. I have a great view and am thankful to have reached this point in my life. Waiting to here from you.



David K. Fife
3D Composite Aircraft Parts Inc.
428 N. Linwood Beach Rd
Linwood, MI. 48634
989-697-3277
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tlmcclary@juno.com

Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips

Post by tlmcclary@juno.com » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:29 pm

This is the message Dave sent out in September.

Terry
R666

-- Dave Fife <aircrafttips@yahoo.com> wrote:
To all that have been inquiring about my life and most importantly 3D Composite Aircraft Parts and the production of wing tips.

Well if any of you have moved from one home to another, you know it takes a lot of time to get settled. I am now somewhat settled. The shop is a work in progress and will be for the next 3 to 4 months. I am starting to get back at production of the wing tips for the Rebel and the Moose/Elite.

I do not advertise on this page and am only writing to stop the rumors. I am back and will answer all e-mails or phone calls. Glad to here all of you are interested. I will fill all orders as they are received but please e-mail or call me in the evening.

By the way, just so you know, I now look East onto Saginaw Bay in Linwood, Michigan, USA. I have been wasting time watching the sun come up in the mornings. I have a great view and am thankful to have reached this point in my life. Waiting to here from you.



David K. Fife
3D Composite Aircraft Parts Inc.
428 N. Linwood Beach Rd
Linwood, MI. 48634
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Jesse Jenks

Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips

Post by Jesse Jenks » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:29 pm

I have been trying to get a set for about a year. I've had very spotty
contact with Dave. I'm actually considering using the Murphy tips! In Dave's
defense, the last email I got from him said he had an illness in the family,
and was very busy with that.
Jesse
From: "tlmcclary@juno.com" <tlmcclary@juno.com>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 22:32:22 GMT

This is the message Dave sent out in September.

Terry
R666

-- Dave Fife <aircrafttips@yahoo.com> wrote:
To all that have been inquiring about my life and most importantly 3D
Composite Aircraft Parts and the production of wing tips.

Well if any of you have moved from one home to another, you know it takes a
lot of time to get settled. I am now somewhat settled. The shop is a work
in progress and will be for the next 3 to 4 months. I am starting to get
back at production of the wing tips for the Rebel and the Moose/Elite.

I do not advertise on this page and am only writing to stop the rumors. I
am back and will answer all e-mails or phone calls. Glad to here all of
you are interested. I will fill all orders as they are received but please
e-mail or call me in the evening.

By the way, just so you know, I now look East onto Saginaw Bay in
Linwood, Michigan, USA. I have been wasting time watching the sun come up
in the mornings. I have a great view and am thankful to have reached this
point in my life. Waiting to here from you.



David K. Fife
3D Composite Aircraft Parts Inc.
428 N. Linwood Beach Rd
Linwood, MI. 48634
989-697-3277
Long EZ in progress.
www.stormpages.com/3dcomposite/wingtip.html



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Jeff McMurrer

Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips

Post by Jeff McMurrer » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:29 pm

While building R743, we upgraded to the MAM Droop Tips. Installation was fairly straight forward. Tips looked great on the Rebel.

I uploaded some pics to the Rebel Wing files for viewing.

Jeff


----- Original Message -----
From: Jesse Jenks <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
Date: Saturday, December 3, 2005 9:26 am
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
I have been trying to get a set for about a year. I've had very
spotty
contact with Dave. I'm actually considering using the Murphy tips!
In Dave's
defense, the last email I got from him said he had an illness in
the family,
and was very busy with that.
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Ken

Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips

Post by Ken » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:29 pm

Hi Jeff
How wide are those things? They look like they might add more wingspan
than the original tips. They do look good!
Ken

Jeff McMurrer wrote:
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Jesse Jenks

Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips

Post by Jesse Jenks » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:29 pm

Jeff,
I like them too. What are the longitudinal rows of clecos for?
Jesse
From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 20:14:24 -0500

Hi Jeff
How wide are those things? They look like they might add more wingspan
than the original tips. They do look good!
Ken

Jeff McMurrer wrote:
While building R743, we upgraded to the MAM Droop Tips. Installation was
fairly straight forward. Tips looked great on the Rebel.
I uploaded some pics to the Rebel Wing files for viewing.

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Jeff McMurrer

Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips

Post by Jeff McMurrer » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:29 pm

Ken,

Droop tips are aprox 22 inches wide. They do add more to the wing area.

Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Date: Saturday, December 3, 2005 5:14 pm
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
Hi Jeff
How wide are those things? They look like they might add more
wingspan
than the original tips. They do look good!
Ken

Jeff McMurrer wrote:
While building R743, we upgraded to the MAM Droop Tips.
Installation was fairly straight forward. Tips looked great on
the Rebel.
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Jeff McMurrer

Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips

Post by Jeff McMurrer » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:29 pm

Jesse,

The clecos are holding my stringer splice, for my spar extensions. Spars extend into the wingtip aprox 8 to 10 inches.

Jeff


----- Original Message -----
From: Jesse Jenks <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 4, 2005 9:12 am
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
Jeff,
I like them too. What are the longitudinal rows of clecos for?
Jesse
From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 20:14:24 -0500

Hi Jeff
How wide are those things? They look like they might add more
wingspan>than the original tips. They do look good!
Ken

Jeff McMurrer wrote:
While building R743, we upgraded to the MAM Droop Tips.
Installation was
fairly straight forward. Tips looked great on the Rebel.
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Jesse Jenks

Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips

Post by Jesse Jenks » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:29 pm

Jeff,
Can the mods to the spar and stringers be done if the wings are already
finished? Also, how do the tips come off for accessing inside the wing? Are
the spar and stringer extensions riveted to the wing and the tips?
Does anyone know if these tips are currently available?
I sent a request to MAM shipping as well.
Thanks
Jesse

From: Jeff McMurrer <westcoastkitplanes@shaw.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 17:01:39 -0800

Jesse,

The clecos are holding my stringer splice, for my spar extensions. Spars
extend into the wingtip aprox 8 to 10 inches.

Jeff


----- Original Message -----
From: Jesse Jenks <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 4, 2005 9:12 am
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
Jeff,
I like them too. What are the longitudinal rows of clecos for?
Jesse
From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 20:14:24 -0500

Hi Jeff
How wide are those things? They look like they might add more
wingspan>than the original tips. They do look good!
Ken

Jeff McMurrer wrote:
Installation was
fairly straight forward. Tips looked great on the Rebel.


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Bob Andrews

Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips

Post by Bob Andrews » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:29 pm

Jesse,

I bought a set of these tips from MAM for 612e. It comes complete from MAM
with all kit parts (including rivets) and instructions for replacing
existing tips with these and/or installing them when building a new wing.

Bob 612e

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Jesse Jenks
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 6:59 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips


Jeff,
Can the mods to the spar and stringers be done if the wings are already
finished? Also, how do the tips come off for accessing inside the wing? Are
the spar and stringer extensions riveted to the wing and the tips?
Does anyone know if these tips are currently available?
I sent a request to MAM shipping as well.
Thanks
Jesse

From: Jeff McMurrer <westcoastkitplanes@shaw.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 17:01:39 -0800

Jesse,

The clecos are holding my stringer splice, for my spar extensions. Spars
extend into the wingtip aprox 8 to 10 inches.

Jeff


----- Original Message -----
From: Jesse Jenks <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 4, 2005 9:12 am
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
Jeff,
I like them too. What are the longitudinal rows of clecos for?
Jesse
From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 20:14:24 -0500

Hi Jeff
How wide are those things? They look like they might add more
wingspan>than the original tips. They do look good!
Ken

Jeff McMurrer wrote:
Installation was
fairly straight forward. Tips looked great on the Rebel.


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Bob Patterson

Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips

Post by Bob Patterson » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:29 pm

Hi Jeff !

Interesting ! I take it that the factory have changed their
position on tip length then ...... They specifically insisted that
Dave Fife make HIS Hoerner tips SHORTER - so they were no longer than
the original Rebel wing tips. This was to "reduce the extra load
on the wing resulting from increased span"..... or do they
recommend shortening the droop tips too ??? ;-^)

........bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Sunday 04 December 2005 07:57 pm, Jeff McMurrer wrote:
Ken,

Droop tips are aprox 22 inches wide. They do add more to the wing area.

Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Date: Saturday, December 3, 2005 5:14 pm
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
Hi Jeff
How wide are those things? They look like they might add more
wingspan
than the original tips. They do look good!
Ken

Jeff McMurrer wrote:
While building R743, we upgraded to the MAM Droop Tips.
Installation was fairly straight forward. Tips looked great on
the Rebel.
I uploaded some pics to the Rebel Wing files for viewing.

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Jeff McMurrer

Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips

Post by Jeff McMurrer » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:29 pm

Jesse,

I installed these tips almost a 18 months after building the wings. Tips were not available when the kit was purchased.

Spar extentions can be done at anytime.

Why would you want to get in a finished wing? (Drill rivets if you want in, at this time in the build we should all be good at that:)

Yes, the spar ext and stringers are riveted to wing and tip with a stringer splice/overlap.

Tips are available from MAM, droop tips are an ongoing production.

I'll try to dig up some more pics of tips being installed.

Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: Jesse Jenks <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 4, 2005 6:58 pm
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
Jeff,
Can the mods to the spar and stringers be done if the wings are
already
finished? Also, how do the tips come off for accessing inside the
wing? Are
the spar and stringer extensions riveted to the wing and the tips?
Does anyone know if these tips are currently available?
I sent a request to MAM shipping as well.
Thanks
Jesse

From: Jeff McMurrer <westcoastkitplanes@shaw.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 17:01:39 -0800

Jesse,

The clecos are holding my stringer splice, for my spar
extensions. Spars
extend into the wingtip aprox 8 to 10 inches.

Jeff


----- Original Message -----
From: Jesse Jenks <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 4, 2005 9:12 am
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
Jeff,
I like them too. What are the longitudinal rows of clecos for?
Jesse
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Wayne G. O'Shea

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Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:29 pm

I was biting my tongue Bob....glad you asked! :O)...and a droop that catches
more air load to boot.

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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips

Hi Jeff !

Interesting ! I take it that the factory have changed their
position on tip length then ...... They specifically insisted that
Dave Fife make HIS Hoerner tips SHORTER - so they were no longer than
the original Rebel wing tips. This was to "reduce the extra load
on the wing resulting from increased span"..... or do they
recommend shortening the droop tips too ??? ;-^)

........bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Sunday 04 December 2005 07:57 pm, Jeff McMurrer wrote:
Ken,

Droop tips are aprox 22 inches wide. They do add more to the wing area.

Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Date: Saturday, December 3, 2005 5:14 pm
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
Hi Jeff
How wide are those things? They look like they might add more
wingspan
than the original tips. They do look good!
Ken

Jeff McMurrer wrote:
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the Rebel.


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Jeff McMurrer

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Post by Jeff McMurrer » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:29 pm

Bob,

Not sure what's MAM's position is on istalling the tips. I did not shorten the tips during the installation. You may have to cut the front & rear sections for tight fit, other than that, installed as received.

Jeff


----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Patterson <beep@sympatico.ca>
Date: Sunday, December 4, 2005 7:45 pm
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
Hi Jeff !

Interesting ! I take it that the factory have changed their
position on tip length then ...... They specifically insisted that
Dave Fife make HIS Hoerner tips SHORTER - so they were no longer
than
the original Rebel wing tips. This was to "reduce the extra load
on the wing resulting from increased span"..... or do they
recommend shortening the droop tips too ??? ;-^)

........bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Sunday 04 December 2005 07:57 pm, Jeff McMurrer wrote:
Ken,

Droop tips are aprox 22 inches wide. They do add more to the
wing area.
Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Date: Saturday, December 3, 2005 5:14 pm
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
Hi Jeff
How wide are those things? They look like they might add more
wingspan
than the original tips. They do look good!
Ken

Jeff McMurrer wrote:
Installation was fairly straight forward. Tips looked great
on
the Rebel.


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Bob Patterson

Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips

Post by Bob Patterson » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:29 pm

Just wondered, since they seemed to feel Dave's tips would/could
be dangerous if not shortened .... Might be something for folks to
ask about before just installing these !

......bobp

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On Sunday 04 December 2005 10:52 pm, Jeff McMurrer wrote:
Bob,

Not sure what's MAM's position is on istalling the tips. I did not
shorten the tips during the installation. You may have to cut the front &
rear sections for tight fit, other than that, installed as received.
Jeff


----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Patterson <beep@sympatico.ca>
Date: Sunday, December 4, 2005 7:45 pm
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
Hi Jeff !

Interesting ! I take it that the factory have changed their
position on tip length then ...... They specifically insisted that
Dave Fife make HIS Hoerner tips SHORTER - so they were no longer
than
the original Rebel wing tips. This was to "reduce the extra load
on the wing resulting from increased span"..... or do they
recommend shortening the droop tips too ??? ;-^)

........bobp

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On Sunday 04 December 2005 07:57 pm, Jeff McMurrer wrote:
Ken,

Droop tips are aprox 22 inches wide. They do add more to the
wing area.
Jeff

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From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Date: Saturday, December 3, 2005 5:14 pm
Subject: Re: Rebel, Moose & Elite Wing Tips
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