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I was planning to install my fuel tank filler necks with the flange on the
inside of the tank skin as suggested by some, but I am now wondering if it
might be better to put them on the outside so they can be replaced easily if
they wear out. They are pretty soft aluminum, and the steel caps have
already created some wear on the cams just by test fitting. Have any of the
higher time airframes had to have the fillers replaced? They definitely look
better on the inside, but nobody sees the top of the wing anyway.
Thanks
Jesse





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Nope, no problem with wear on mine, after more than 5 years
flying.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Jesse Jenks
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:46 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Filler neck install


I was planning to install my fuel tank filler necks
with the flange on the
inside of the tank skin as suggested by some, but I am
now wondering if it
might be better to put them on the outside so they can
be replaced easily if
they wear out. They are pretty soft aluminum, and the
steel caps have
already created some wear on the cams just by test
fitting. Have any of the
higher time airframes had to have the fillers
replaced? They definitely look
better on the inside, but nobody sees the top of the
wing anyway.
Thanks
Jesse





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10+ years, 500 hours of fuel fills and just starting to get a bit
loose....but only 'cause the rubber seals have shrunk...but still not
letting any water in.

I've done them both ways and I guess outside makes more sense from the
replacement point of view...look better inside as you say..but also like you
say only the guy with the fuel hose in his hand (YOU NEVER LET SOMEONE DO IT
FOR YOU) sees them!

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:59 PM
Subject: RE: Filler neck install

Nope, no problem with wear on mine, after more than 5 years
flying.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Jesse Jenks
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:46 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Filler neck install


I was planning to install my fuel tank filler necks
with the flange on the
inside of the tank skin as suggested by some, but I am
now wondering if it
might be better to put them on the outside so they can
be replaced easily if
they wear out. They are pretty soft aluminum, and the
steel caps have
already created some wear on the cams just by test
fitting. Have any of the
higher time airframes had to have the fillers
replaced? They definitely look
better on the inside, but nobody sees the top of the
wing anyway.
Thanks
Jesse





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Thanks Walter and Wayne.

From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: Filler neck install
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 23:35:44 -0400

10+ years, 500 hours of fuel fills and just starting to get a bit
loose....but only 'cause the rubber seals have shrunk...but still not
letting any water in.

I've done them both ways and I guess outside makes more sense from the
replacement point of view...look better inside as you say..but also like
you
say only the guy with the fuel hose in his hand (YOU NEVER LET SOMEONE DO
IT
FOR YOU) sees them!

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:59 PM
Subject: RE: Filler neck install

Nope, no problem with wear on mine, after more than 5 years
flying.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Jesse Jenks
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:46 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Filler neck install


I was planning to install my fuel tank filler necks
with the flange on the
inside of the tank skin as suggested by some, but I am
now wondering if it
might be better to put them on the outside so they can
be replaced easily if
they wear out. They are pretty soft aluminum, and the
steel caps have
already created some wear on the cams just by test
fitting. Have any of the
higher time airframes had to have the fillers
replaced? They definitely look
better on the inside, but nobody sees the top of the
wing anyway.
Thanks
Jesse





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Jesse,
FWIW, I installed mine on the inside. Me and others that stop by to look at
my plane for the 5 years before it flies will admire the cleaner look. ;)

On another front... is there such a thing as anchor nuts with the 3/32 rivet
holes dimpled or CS?
-Ben/496R

Thanks Walter and Wayne.

From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: Filler neck install
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 23:35:44 -0400

10+ years, 500 hours of fuel fills and just starting to get a bit
loose....but only 'cause the rubber seals have shrunk...but still not
letting any water in.

I've done them both ways and I guess outside makes more sense from the
replacement point of view...look better inside as you say..but also like
you
say only the guy with the fuel hose in his hand (YOU NEVER LET SOMEONE DO
IT
FOR YOU) sees them!

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:59 PM
Subject: RE: Filler neck install

Nope, no problem with wear on mine, after more than 5 years
flying.

Walter


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Ben,
I agree, making yourself happy is a big part of this whole thing.

Yes, there are anchor nuts with 3/32 dimpled rivet holes. I have been using
anchor nuts a lot, and bought some with dimpled rivet holes for attaching
the tail tips. They cost me about $1.00 each from a local supplier. When I
started on the wings I got a bunch of un-dimpled ones from ACS for less than
$.25 each. I dimpled some of them myself for the inspection covers which
works OK. For the wing root/fuselage fairings I installed un-dimpled ones in
the root rib by countersinking the root rib (the skin will go on over the
anchor nut rivets). I have been using solid 3/32 CS rivets and a squeezer. I
got a cheap squeezer from Aircraft Tool Supply that works great.
Jesse

From: bransom@dcsol.com
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Filler neck install
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 08:41:46 -0800

Jesse,
FWIW, I installed mine on the inside. Me and others that stop by to look
at
my plane for the 5 years before it flies will admire the cleaner look. ;)

On another front... is there such a thing as anchor nuts with the 3/32
rivet
holes dimpled or CS?
-Ben/496R

Thanks Walter and Wayne.

From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: Filler neck install
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 23:35:44 -0400

10+ years, 500 hours of fuel fills and just starting to get a bit
loose....but only 'cause the rubber seals have shrunk...but still not
letting any water in.

I've done them both ways and I guess outside makes more sense from the
replacement point of view...look better inside as you say..but also

like

you
say only the guy with the fuel hose in his hand (YOU NEVER LET SOMEONE

DO

IT
FOR YOU) sees them!

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:59 PM
Subject: RE: Filler neck install




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